wata was slapped by werra because there was a fight in front of la zamba and automatically nsone thought it was heritier's troublesome guys of the chicago 320 gang and he came and slapped heritier without asking for any explanation,while it was not involving himit coincided with those who remained with him for the common heritier fabregas fudji abraham workshop putting pressure on him to leave so wata almost considered leaving until mampata jb seguin and guys like patcho panda stepped in to calm him in congolese music the blessing thing rarely exists,the closest case i can think of leaving with blessing is pitchou concorde in cultura who went to europe to be with his sadly dead now brother who was in hospital and who asked to be leaving the group and studying music in francein most cases even if they try the most diplomatic or the biggest mindgame strategy,it almost always explode at some pointexample fabro like i said in a previous thread fearing that heritier takes the workshop guys to go solo took the gamble to ask heritier to steal his passport for him in kinshasa pretending to receive money via western union while it still had visa and went back to europe to start solo career,he then got sent people to try to kidnap him and bring him back home(an old strategy musicians have been using sometimes even before clan wenge ever existed) then he kinda started peacefully but by the time he settled back in kinshasa to perform he started attacking werra for allegedly getting his concert banners ripped in kin's streets and things like that and going as far as saying that the day he dies he does not want werra to come and fake being sadsame with heritier he tried going the diplomatic route by handing a resignation letter to leave the group,which last before reaching administration because each of them was scared to be the one who took it and inform werra about it,but by the time he'd be trying to put in place a peaceful separation on his side and on maison mere's side there was already court jesters attacking other side which instantly turned his attempt of peaceful leaving into the traditional tense departure of big members of the groupleaving peacefully in congolese music is hard very very hard,because in the mind of the leaders its always this guy will be or will see himself as my direct challenger as soon as things pick up for him,especially as in most cases leaders have that ability to sense potential in their musicians even when they have peaked in their groups,they can imagine for example that a ferre or a fally would be a great solo leader so they'll make sure to try to control the rise to maintain that distance and respect of "you are my children" so you are always behind
I see so missed alot. No one left WMM with Werra's blessing. Werrason sended guys in Europe to get Fabregas deported and Sankara would insult Fabregas for years. Heritier didn't show up on day 2 of the 3 days event at Grand Hotel to present Ingeta, because he felt it like a humiliation in the case Fally Ipupa would come as guest while him being in a uniform (there was already a cold war between both guys since 2003/04). So he decided to leave, seeing that he couldn't justify his absence. He then made a letter to Werrason after he left, wanting to be the first musician to leave peacefully. But Werrason refused to accept his letter, Sankara and ADT Yanki would insult Heritier everytime and Werrason making Heritier's first months and years as solo artist hard behind the scenes. For Heritier it became to much and he started to react through the many internet journalists who were then behind him (Ken Mpiana, Adams Luzolo, Patsho RFI, etc.) and his spokemen.
Quote from: archos on March 24, 2022, 10:21wata was slapped by werra because there was a fight in front of la zamba and automatically nsone thought it was heritier's troublesome guys of the chicago 320 gang and he came and slapped heritier without asking for any explanation,while it was not involving himit coincided with those who remained with him for the common heritier fabregas fudji abraham workshop putting pressure on him to leave so wata almost considered leaving until mampata jb seguin and guys like patcho panda stepped in to calm him in congolese music the blessing thing rarely exists,the closest case i can think of leaving with blessing is pitchou concorde in cultura who went to europe to be with his sadly dead now brother who was in hospital and who asked to be leaving the group and studying music in francein most cases even if they try the most diplomatic or the biggest mindgame strategy,it almost always explode at some pointexample fabro like i said in a previous thread fearing that heritier takes the workshop guys to go solo took the gamble to ask heritier to steal his passport for him in kinshasa pretending to receive money via western union while it still had visa and went back to europe to start solo career,he then got sent people to try to kidnap him and bring him back home(an old strategy musicians have been using sometimes even before clan wenge ever existed) then he kinda started peacefully but by the time he settled back in kinshasa to perform he started attacking werra for allegedly getting his concert banners ripped in kin's streets and things like that and going as far as saying that the day he dies he does not want werra to come and fake being sadsame with heritier he tried going the diplomatic route by handing a resignation letter to leave the group,which last before reaching administration because each of them was scared to be the one who took it and inform werra about it,but by the time he'd be trying to put in place a peaceful separation on his side and on maison mere's side there was already court jesters attacking other side which instantly turned his attempt of peaceful leaving into the traditional tense departure of big members of the groupleaving peacefully in congolese music is hard very very hard,because in the mind of the leaders its always this guy will be or will see himself as my direct challenger as soon as things pick up for him,especially as in most cases leaders have that ability to sense potential in their musicians even when they have peaked in their groups,they can imagine for example that a ferre or a fally would be a great solo leader so they'll make sure to try to control the rise to maintain that distance and respect of "you are my children" so you are always behindWhat are "workshop guys"? Are those musicians who give lyrics and guitar parts to the main members of a band?
Quote from: Mfumu Vata on March 24, 2022, 10:29I see so missed alot. No one left WMM with Werra's blessing. Werrason sended guys in Europe to get Fabregas deported and Sankara would insult Fabregas for years. Heritier didn't show up on day 2 of the 3 days event at Grand Hotel to present Ingeta, because he felt it like a humiliation in the case Fally Ipupa would come as guest while him being in a uniform (there was already a cold war between both guys since 2003/04). So he decided to leave, seeing that he couldn't justify his absence. He then made a letter to Werrason after he left, wanting to be the first musician to leave peacefully. But Werrason refused to accept his letter, Sankara and ADT Yanki would insult Heritier everytime and Werrason making Heritier's first months and years as solo artist hard behind the scenes. For Heritier it became to much and he started to react through the many internet journalists who were then behind him (Ken Mpiana, Adams Luzolo, Patsho RFI, etc.) and his spokemen.Why did you hate Heritier back in 2008 until he left WMM? You never explained why