<cite>@mvulusi96 said:</cite>
Boite Noire is unfortunately a big flop. Only the 3 generique + Pakadjuma are doing well. But the rest not. I was very dissapointed when the album out. I thought that it would be like Kibuisa Mpimpa & TH, because how they did praise the album on tv and that twitter-affair against Fally "to gagner". But it wasn't the case, it's full with monotony and stuff about sex. The same thing was also with Power when it came out, but there I like all the songs and there are not sex-songs.

I observed that Fally and Ferre always praise their albums to much, so that peoples think that it is a great album like V12, T.H. and Kibuisa Mpimpa. But when there fans buy the albums, they come always disappointed out.

Personally I don't mind Congolese artist talking about sex, because over here in the states artist talk about in most of their songs but it has a parental advisory label on it, they should do it with Congolese albums as well so people know ahead of time what the lyrics of the songs are before they buy it  

A part of me believes that Werra, Jb and co are successful because of hard work and another part of me believes they are working with black magic just like artist over here in the states. And another thing Fally and Ferre are in witchcraft and doing quite well for themselves so why can't they go to their scorers and ask them to become big global stars because they are becoming more international.  

<cite>@archos said:</cite>

They forget that if they don't make songs like Education, Feux de l'Amour, Bomengo Ata Kala and Sos that they would be forgotten after 20 years. For example nobody does know any song of Wenge El Paris. Ask a kid from the '90s, if know a song of them, Only the people the fans or the people of that time will remeber their songs.

<cite>@jdog said:</cite>
A part of me believes that Werra, Jb and co are successful because of hard work and another part of me believes they are working with black magic just like artist over here in the states. And another thing Fally and Ferre are in witchcraft and doing quite well for themselves so why can't they go to their scorers and ask them to become big global stars because they are becoming more international.

That's because you don't understand Lingala. The cesure commision in Congo don't care about it, becausw they are corrupted by the musiciens. Bord Ezanga Kombo, Mpunda and other song & animations were censored in the past by that commision, after there release.

<cite>@archos said:</cite>
kibuisa mpimpa in lingala is ko kweyisa butu,that's probably why its translated as eclipse since eclipse suddenly makes the sky dark

I didn't mean that. I've said that the most album  names are reactions to something (Solola Bien,Anti Terro, Monde Arabe,  Sous Sol) or reference to a period(K.O. Debout,Titanic,Force d'Intervation Rapide,...) or to a pact(Noblesse Oblige, Magie, Pouvoir, Sens Interdite, Kibuisa Mpimpa, Power,...) and with Miracles I didn't mean the album of Les Marquis, but the album that Werrason changed in Temoinage. It was previewed that album would be a great succes, like or bigger than Kibuisa. For that reseaon he named the album Miracles and later Temoinages. Refering that evrybody would temoigne about the miracles, but it wasn't the case. Rumours said that JB & Koffi did block the album with witchcraft so that it would be not a succes. The album self didn't had the songs and arrangements that could reach Kibuisa Mpimpa

the part you quoted i was talking to newside
he was asking the meaning of kibuisa mpimpa

<cite>@archos said:</cite>
the part you quoted i was talking to newside
he was asking the meaning of kibuisa mpimpa

sorry, nasalaki quote mabe. Nalingaki ko reprondre New Side

<cite>@archos said:</cite>
kibuisa mpimpa in lingala is ko kweyisa butu,that's probably why its translated as eclipse since eclipse suddenly makes the sky dark

I didn’t mean that. I’ve said that the most album names are reactions to something (Solola Bien,Anti Terro, Monde Arabe, Sous Sol) or reference to a period(K.O. Debout,Titanic,Force d’Intervation Rapide,…) or to a pact(Noblesse Oblige, Magie, Pouvoir, Sens Interdite, Kibuisa Mpimpa, Power,…) and with Miracles I didn’t mean the album of Les Marquis, but the album that Werrason changed in Temoinage. It was previewed that album would be a great succes, like or bigger than Kibuisa. For that reseaon he named the album Miracles and later Temoinages. Refering that evrybody would temoigne about the miracles, but it wasn’t the case. Rumours said that JB & Koffi did block the album with witchcraft so that it would be not a succes. The album self didn’t had the songs and arrangements that could reach Kibuisa Mpimpa

<cite>@NEWSIDE96 said:</cite>
damn i think if your in a different of those businesses you got to go abroad but i heard asians are promoting that sort business in congo without being scared it's sad now and for fally i know his trying to get the same level as kanye west and co. but i'm asking how can the success for the usa is not comparable to africa for instance if jay-z went to congo he probably fill up the whole of bandal and kintambo but the congolese can't fill up yankees stadium why lol?

I don't think that Jay-Z could full up whole Kintambo and Bandal. Because nobosy does know him there. Only the people who had electricty or youngsters who had intrest in Hip-Hop thats a small part of the population of Kinshasa.

ok i went over the top a bit but I mean he will be able to play fikin with a full capacity and Jay-z is known in congo hip-hop has been growing in congo 50 cent should have played there couple years back but it didn't work anyway if shaggy can fill up fikin (which i think he played) Jay-z will be able to.

Shaggy didn't play at Fikin. He did perform at the GHK which was a V.I.P. concert. Hip-Hop, R&B and other music-genre stars does perform mostly at GHK or Theatre de Verdure. Which are generally V.I.P. to avoid chegues.

@Acrhos
is that true that fr Patrice was a nganga of Wenge

yeah true,he also collaborated a lot with werra in the first years of maison mere
baby ndombe confirmed it in an interview,you know the likes of bafana bafana and stuff like that

<cite>@mvulusi96 said:</cite>
That's because you don't understand Lingala. The cesure commision in Congo don't care about it, becausw they are corrupted by the musiciens. Bord Ezanga Kombo, Mpunda and other song & animations were censored in the past by that commision, after there release.

Umm I actually do understand Lingala.

I am very shocked