Author Topic: AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH MY GOD WAZEKWA ANNOUNCCES ADIDS DATE  (Read 2516 times)


Manzambi94 #1 on: May 21, 2024, 22:39

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The genius of this man, announces a date after a mpiaka, in France, after your musicians ran away, and in the same day that the Uefa  Champions League final takes place, something must be wrong with this man

SLK97 #2 on: May 22, 2024, 20:06

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The comments underneath that post lol. This date is so short notice, so last minute that Wazekwa would be lucky enough to have 1000 people see him, let alone 9000. He needs to take his head out of his ass for once.

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Mopao195 #4 on: May 24, 2024, 09:22

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does wazekwa have a team behind him or isnt just him because that date dont make any sense

Manzambi94 #5 on: May 24, 2024, 10:18

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does wazekwa have a team behind him or isnt just him because that date dont make any sense
He ignores people who give him good advice to just blindly follow those idiote of his brothers, for example his first concert at Martyrs was an idea suggested by Joss Djena but Joss said that he was expecting this idea to take 2 or 3 years to being able to build up, but Wazekwa for some reason just went and did it with very few time notice, then after this there was a situation where he got paid like 150k from a person for a concert and this person gave 500 dollars to each musician and his brothers said that each musician would have to give back their money to Wazekwa with lead to more musician leaving, that man is embarassing and he will never say it but he even asked Ceden and especially Junior Bush TGV Thalisse, Gessac to come back to the group secretly because he knew he would have been clowned and embarassed by all the Congolese diaspora, if he did publically, and Gessac refused for then Wazekwa having the nerve to calling Gessac "Zoba" on TV which means stupid in the most desrespectful way (after KiZengi which means retarded but Wazekwa just called him Zoba) i don't know what he plans to do or if he is sane but all this is embarassing but he thinks he is doing it big, cause he performs on self funded big halls
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archos #6 on: May 24, 2024, 13:38

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talking about the concert i can see bercy who is a guest/ new member of cultura international (of licha nasdaq pitshou concorde and co ) jumping around singing "tempo tempo" and so on which has nothing to do with cultura lol

Wenge1995 #7 on: May 24, 2024, 15:10

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does wazekwa have a team behind him or isnt just him because that date dont make any sense
He ignores people who give him good advice to just blindly follow those idiote of his brothers, for example his first concert at Martyrs was an idea suggested by Joss Djena but Joss said that he was expecting this idea to take 2 or 3 years to being able to build up, but Wazekwa for some reason just went and did it with very few time notice, then after this there was a situation where he got paid like 150k from a person for a concert and this person gave 500 dollars to each musician and his brothers said that each musician would have to give back their money to Wazekwa with lead to more musician leaving, that man is embarassing and he will never say it but he even asked Ceden and especially Junior Bush TGV Thalisse, Gessac to come back to the group secretly because he knew he would have been clowned and embarassed by all the Congolese diaspora, and Gessac refused for then Wazekwa having the nerve to calling Gessac "Zoba" which means stupid in the most desrespectful way (after KiZengi which means retarded nut Wazekwa just called hom Zoba) i don't know what he plans to do or if he is sane but all this is embarassing but he thinks he is doing it big, cause he performs on self funded big halls

When Wazekwa was on the rise from 2001 to 2005, he was avoiding big halls in Congo and Europe. But now he wants the big stadiums...do you think it's regret for turning down many of the opportunities he had twenty years ago?

I'm sure Joss Diena, Gessac, and Hono have a little resentment because they did great music but no big moments like Zenith, Olympia, and so on

archos #8 on: May 24, 2024, 15:40

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I think thats also why joss returned,never played a big hall in cultura and was kidnapped at the koffi zenith he attended so he barely could perform(and also i heard rumours that he separated with his wife lolo milolo so he is trying to rejoin his french girlfriend he was about to marry to sort out papers until one of the congolese ones snitched on him and got him deported)
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Manzambi94 #9 on: May 24, 2024, 17:58

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does wazekwa have a team behind him or isnt just him because that date dont make any sense
He ignores people who give him good advice to just blindly follow those idiote of his brothers, for example his first concert at Martyrs was an idea suggested by Joss Djena but Joss said that he was expecting this idea to take 2 or 3 years to being able to build up, but Wazekwa for some reason just went and did it with very few time notice, then after this there was a situation where he got paid like 150k from a person for a concert and this person gave 500 dollars to each musician and his brothers said that each musician would have to give back their money to Wazekwa with lead to more musician leaving, that man is embarassing and he will never say it but he even asked Ceden and especially Junior Bush TGV Thalisse, Gessac to come back to the group secretly because he knew he would have been clowned and embarassed by all the Congolese diaspora, and Gessac refused for then Wazekwa having the nerve to calling Gessac "Zoba" which means stupid in the most desrespectful way (after KiZengi which means retarded nut Wazekwa just called hom Zoba) i don't know what he plans to do or if he is sane but all this is embarassing but he thinks he is doing it big, cause he performs on self funded big halls

When Wazekwa was on the rise from 2001 to 2005, he was avoiding big halls in Congo and Europe. But now he wants the big stadiums...do you think it's regret for turning down many of the opportunities he had twenty years ago?

I'm sure Joss Diena, Gessac, and Hono have a little resentment because they did great music but no big moments like Zenith, Olympia, and so on
I cant say for sure cause only Wazekwa knows, but I think it pains him to not have become like Werra, JB and Koffi, who are now way past their prime (even tho JB had a crazy comeback with Zebuka) but back in the days were huge. Koffi was known mainly in pretty much the whole Africa and Werrason had a very strong lock on DRC and eastern African countries like Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, JB was inconsisten but his fanbase was and still is extremely loyal due to that first solo Internet TH project he dropped with him being rewarded with big crowds everytime he decided to make a concert or an album, Wazekwa never had that, and as you have said he had the chance but he always refused, and to be honest when he used to make very big songs like Fimbu, or Et Apres it was always for his generiques never for his rhumbas, plus he has the same problem of Kibens, a lot of people find his style of music too complicated and don't really recognize themselves in Wazekwa's lyrics, to this day if you ask the average Congolese person he will struggle to name a Rhumba from Wazekwa but he will not have problem to name one from Jb, Koffi or Werra.

Wenge1995 #10 on: May 25, 2024, 00:14

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does wazekwa have a team behind him or isnt just him because that date dont make any sense
He ignores people who give him good advice to just blindly follow those idiote of his brothers, for example his first concert at Martyrs was an idea suggested by Joss Djena but Joss said that he was expecting this idea to take 2 or 3 years to being able to build up, but Wazekwa for some reason just went and did it with very few time notice, then after this there was a situation where he got paid like 150k from a person for a concert and this person gave 500 dollars to each musician and his brothers said that each musician would have to give back their money to Wazekwa with lead to more musician leaving, that man is embarassing and he will never say it but he even asked Ceden and especially Junior Bush TGV Thalisse, Gessac to come back to the group secretly because he knew he would have been clowned and embarassed by all the Congolese diaspora, and Gessac refused for then Wazekwa having the nerve to calling Gessac "Zoba" which means stupid in the most desrespectful way (after KiZengi which means retarded nut Wazekwa just called hom Zoba) i don't know what he plans to do or if he is sane but all this is embarassing but he thinks he is doing it big, cause he performs on self funded big halls

When Wazekwa was on the rise from 2001 to 2005, he was avoiding big halls in Congo and Europe. But now he wants the big stadiums...do you think it's regret for turning down many of the opportunities he had twenty years ago?

I'm sure Joss Diena, Gessac, and Hono have a little resentment because they did great music but no big moments like Zenith, Olympia, and so on
I cant say for sure cause only Wazekwa knows, but I think it pains him to not have become like Werra, JB and Koffi, who are now way past their prime (even tho JB had a crazy comeback with Zebuka) but back in the days were huge. Koffi was known mainly in pretty much the whole Africa and Werrason had a very strong lock on DRC and eastern African countries like Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, JB was inconsisten but his fanbase was and still is extremely loyal due to that first solo Internet TH project he dropped with him being rewarded with big crowds everytime he decided to make a concert or an album, Wazekwa never had that, and as you have said he had the chance but he always refused, and to be honest when he used to make very big songs like Fimbu, or Et Apres it was always for his generiques never for his rhumbas, plus he has the same problem of Kibens, a lot of people find his style of music too complicated and don't really recognize themselves in Wazekwa's lyrics, to this day if you ask the average Congolese person he will struggle to name a Rhumba from Wazekwa but he will not have problem to name one from Jb, Koffi or Werra.

Is it true that Wazekwa delayed those opportunities because he didn't want to do nkisi? I don't think his rhumbas are overly complicated; some of the most popular ones in our genre are high concepts from Reddy Amisi, Wemba, and Koffi.

The problem is that Wazekwa too way too much space on the albums that could have opened doors for him such as Yo Nani and Et Apres. He had great singers like Joss Diena, Biva Ray, Tripason Le Correcteur, and Nasdaq but they only had seconds to praise donors.





He insists on using a high pitched voice when his strength is singing as a baritone. Just listen to the beginning of Pardon, he sounds so much better at this octave



He restrained himself to generiques and stunted the popularity of his singers because Joss doesn't have a Vita Imana, Hono Kapanga doesn't have a Sheraton, and Gessac doesn't have a Mbrime or Pentagone. You know? A signature song that's their own, they just have a couple vocals here and there for nearly twenty years of music...it's sad

Wenge1995 #11 on: May 25, 2024, 00:18

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I think thats also why joss returned,never played a big hall in cultura and was kidnapped at the koffi zenith he attended so he barely could perform(and also i heard rumours that he separated with his wife lolo milolo so he is trying to rejoin his french girlfriend he was about to marry to sort out papers until one of the congolese ones snitched on him and got him deported)

Didn't they do LSC before Yo Nani came out? I keep forgetting. You know it's crazy that Wenge Tonya Tonya did way more than Wazekwa and they didn't last but a year...

It's too bad Pepe Kalle died early because he could have gotten Olympia, Zenith, and others based on the strength of Cocktail. Lofombo just had to accept Djouna as leader of Delta Force but he contributed too much to be #2

Manzambi94 #12 on: May 26, 2024, 09:18

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does wazekwa have a team behind him or isnt just him because that date dont make any sense
He ignores people who give him good advice to just blindly follow those idiote of his brothers, for example his first concert at Martyrs was an idea suggested by Joss Djena but Joss said that he was expecting this idea to take 2 or 3 years to being able to build up, but Wazekwa for some reason just went and did it with very few time notice, then after this there was a situation where he got paid like 150k from a person for a concert and this person gave 500 dollars to each musician and his brothers said that each musician would have to give back their money to Wazekwa with lead to more musician leaving, that man is embarassing and he will never say it but he even asked Ceden and especially Junior Bush TGV Thalisse, Gessac to come back to the group secretly because he knew he would have been clowned and embarassed by all the Congolese diaspora, and Gessac refused for then Wazekwa having the nerve to calling Gessac "Zoba" which means stupid in the most desrespectful way (after KiZengi which means retarded nut Wazekwa just called hom Zoba) i don't know what he plans to do or if he is sane but all this is embarassing but he thinks he is doing it big, cause he performs on self funded big halls

When Wazekwa was on the rise from 2001 to 2005, he was avoiding big halls in Congo and Europe. But now he wants the big stadiums...do you think it's regret for turning down many of the opportunities he had twenty years ago?

I'm sure Joss Diena, Gessac, and Hono have a little resentment because they did great music but no big moments like Zenith, Olympia, and so on
I cant say for sure cause only Wazekwa knows, but I think it pains him to not have become like Werra, JB and Koffi, who are now way past their prime (even tho JB had a crazy comeback with Zebuka) but back in the days were huge. Koffi was known mainly in pretty much the whole Africa and Werrason had a very strong lock on DRC and eastern African countries like Tanzania, Kenya, Uganda, JB was inconsisten but his fanbase was and still is extremely loyal due to that first solo Internet TH project he dropped with him being rewarded with big crowds everytime he decided to make a concert or an album, Wazekwa never had that, and as you have said he had the chance but he always refused, and to be honest when he used to make very big songs like Fimbu, or Et Apres it was always for his generiques never for his rhumbas, plus he has the same problem of Kibens, a lot of people find his style of music too complicated and don't really recognize themselves in Wazekwa's lyrics, to this day if you ask the average Congolese person he will struggle to name a Rhumba from Wazekwa but he will not have problem to name one from Jb, Koffi or Werra.

Is it true that Wazekwa delayed those opportunities because he didn't want to do nkisi? I don't think his rhumbas are overly complicated; some of the most popular ones in our genre are high concepts from Reddy Amisi, Wemba, and Koffi.

The problem is that Wazekwa too way too much space on the albums that could have opened doors for him such as Yo Nani and Et Apres. He had great singers like Joss Diena, Biva Ray, Tripason Le Correcteur, and Nasdaq but they only had seconds to praise donors.





He insists on using a high pitched voice when his strength is singing as a baritone. Just listen to the beginning of Pardon, he sounds so much better at this octave



He restrained himself to generiques and stunted the popularity of his singers because Joss doesn't have a Vita Imana, Hono Kapanga doesn't have a Sheraton, and Gessac doesn't have a Mbrime or Pentagone. You know? A signature song that's their own, they just have a couple vocals here and there for nearly twenty years of music...it's sad
I think it is a mix of things, to be honest I think his "I don't want to do Kindoki" was just an excuse tbh, Deplick had his big moment with Boloss and also brought almost all of his musicians in Europe



The same for a guy like But Na Fillet whom I don't remember if he went to Europe already but had a very very big success in Congo and everybody knows how deeply religious and totally oppose to Kindoki he is



So I just think that we can't really know why, especially when now Is the opposite he wants to do every big hall in the world from The Stade Des Martyrs and then Europe and Madison Square Garden.

About the singers the thing is that Wazekwa's system to get songs is extremely complicated. Given his fear of Kindoki and also aversion of any peoole who does an immoral job to get by the musicians had to go and investigate the donors who asked for the song, if the guy wasn't legit or doing work with legitimate business rhey were forced to gi e back the money for example there was a time where Kayile Inga or Mamadou Waricho I don't remember which one wanted to have a song by Wazekwa but Wazekwa gave him the money back because one of this two or either of them were suspected of being witchcrafters, and then I can understand but for the other donors I can't.
Imagine being a singer of Wazekwa you find a donor but Wazekwa doesn't let you release the song cause you found out that the guy is corrupted, was a criminal or something like that.
It is kinda disillusioned to say but tbh the best song ever made sometimes were driving by the hopes of a better life, or more money from donors,if like in Wazekwa's group you know that you won't get much even after all of your efforts and also with this complicated system of finding songs  you won't be motivated to do anything.
Another example is the reharsal, the rehearsal that you have seen at Wazekwa's house are most of the time self funded by musicians because it was musicians who had the idea of having open rehearsals. So things like transport who usually get paid by the boss it is the same musicians that pays it.

About his voice I think is due to Papa Wemba and Manda Chante, meaning that Wazekwa loke many of his contemporary in age grew up in a time where you should have sanged with an high pitched voice even if you were a baritone, things that Manda, Papa Wemba some other could do, for example Werrason does the same despite being a baritone and having an extremely excellent voice as a Baritone



3:18 Werra Baritone

And from
4:12
Is the first time U an hearing Werra actually singing in a great key
 


So that's why he keeps that high pitch voice, and another thing is that Wazekwa's stubborn, yes he usually listens to the advice of his musicians but if he thinks something is good there is no one who can convince him otherwise.

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