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WHO WAS SEGUIN MIGNON MANIATA ?
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shamala
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January 12, 2025, 11:03
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WHO WAS SEGUIN MIGNON MANIATA ?
Who was Seguin Mignion Maniata in the Congolese music?
Given the out pouring grief from the whole spectrum or artists, journalists and other dignitaries you could mistake him for a band leader. The scenes of raw and open emotion across the divide make me think we didn't know exactly who he was.
Past BCBG artists are equally affected to the extend that you don't get the vibe of other chefs who mistreat band members.
Further I raised the issue of his accident and it seemed an incident under the water but i suspect yhere is more to it. From the time Blaise started getting mere play time including concerts and trips with two drummers this could indicate an issue.
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archos
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January 12, 2025, 12:23
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Re: WHO WAS SEGUIN MIGNON MANIATA ?
for the wenge admins seguin was like their children,always willing to do any mission for them despite working with jb and also often used to try to convince key people not to leave,for example he intervened in ferre heritier flamme kapaya departures all being his friends spending hours trying to convince them not to do werra like that and so on
even with fally and ferre,despite his beef with fally at that moment he tried to convince his brother ronsard not to leave or when chikito left he almost body handled him to make him know he is angry with him leaving his friend ferre like that and risking to ruin his own career,him and fally just restarted talking when he tried to intervene in the situation of ambassy before he left
for jb seguin was the guy signing probably half of the contracts,he was having a "soft sleep" routine because he loved making himself available for jb any hour of the day,and that level of commitment even sometimes caused trouble in his family life and was keeping sometimes huge amounts of jb at his house(several hundreds of thousands and not even one bill would disappear)
and from people of outside,seguin was the guy to pass through to join jb,if you wanted help from jb pass through seguin you have 99,9999999999999999999 per cent of chance of success in getting an enveloppe from jb,and even himself enjoyed helping out people for example the musicians of fally and ferre and co when he knew that jb went out with serious money to party he'd secretly call them to inform that jb is at x place they should come and pretend they did not know he was there and him naturally will give something then he'd joke with them that since its because of him he should get a little percentage
you'll see for example that chai is very affected,seguin was the one often setting up a way for him to get money from jb on regular basis,even if they needed to make up a story
for the press aswell,if seguin defended your case to get an interview from jb or get involved in concerts which would then give you an opportunity to approach donors,you'd most likely get access
as for blaise at the start he did not take it well which is why he rushed his return from the stroke because he heard that blaise had impressed in the mini african tour done in his absence,but in the long run he was happy to let him play a lot since it allowed him more time off to greet donors and so on and managed to convince jb that he had to be on every list,jb did not trust blaise enough because they never had that proximity blaise despite being there for long was always like one of them ordinary members like the male dancers
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Cavalier Solitaire
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January 13, 2025, 16:46
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I saw a video of Seguin recording himself giving monies to Zulema and the wife on behalf of JB Mpiana for I think a child's funeral or something. Saying am recording this video because us musicians are ungrateful you might hear tomorrow that JB failed to help Zulema during the time he lost his child. Donc Papa Cheri's treasurer. Lol
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archos
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January 13, 2025, 17:13
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Yeah exactly,it was also him who would book tickets for the jb children whenever they needed to move,really became a family member
some of the children came for the funerals
one thing i have massive respect for him for hi house was always full,yet he was having some mad amounts for jb sitting at his house(i believe the biggest amount ever was when jb sold the rehearsal hall he had built to indians for 600+K) and it was never lost,i dont know how he managed that
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Cavalier Solitaire
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January 13, 2025, 18:56
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Re: WHO WAS SEGUIN MIGNON MANIATA ?
It means Papa Cheri paid him well and trusted him. Couldn't betray the trust. Now we understand why he was almost always behind JB like a bodyguard. Lol
R.I.P to him.
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CM PRINCE
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January 15, 2025, 10:15
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Speaking of Seguin making peace with people before his death I also saw Cambodge was at his funeral in Brussels, them two used to haaaate each other back in the day what made their relationship change, and same thing with Seguin and a lot of people including ex bcbg and 4x4 members because a few years ago Seguin used to get very bad press and rep with people constantly complaining about his behaviour.
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archos
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January 15, 2025, 13:28
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Re: WHO WAS SEGUIN MIGNON MANIATA ?
The covid crisis started changing him because he suffered both a scare about another stroke and also his diabetes having a threat of amputation,because his anxiety went through the roof with that unforeseen situation of having to stay at home while his life was always outside because he had to do this and that for jb,from that he started slowly changeing,first in the way he treated minor members of the group,he used to have bad jokes about some them not in a nasty way but it was not always well interpreted,he then started considering them more
then he started laying foundation of peace with genta who was complaining that seguin was completely hijacking his duties as chef de repetition if he said song x seguin would say y lineup of this this this and that singer seguin would put by force the old guard or his favourites and so on,so genta started getting his authority back slowly until they had reached perfect harmony again in 2023
with the wenge guys the 4X4 reunion played a big role in him making peace with aimelia,mbokalia who used to attack him
and with drummers when titina assembled them all to create the association of drummers it played a big role,even the fally and ferre drummers have stopped beefing almost physically when meeting because of that and can now at least salute each other
and with fally his grudge over the way fally treated his sister ninga was big,and as i am sure you remember he was even avoiding the public meetings of fally and jb most of the time,what i was told was that it was an authority who they both do matolo to who set up their peace,and that once fally greated him in their mother tongue ki ntomba he hit the sensitive part,then people around fally pushed in the direction for them to talk again a couple of times,they did not end as close as they once were but at least they made the important steps,even jb was confronting him for years about his beef with fally,before and after his own relationship with fally changed
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Zephania
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January 15, 2025, 19:50
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Re: WHO WAS SEGUIN MIGNON MANIATA ?
During the funeral of Serguin Mignon Maniata this song Serge Palmi made people cry can someone shed some light wwhat is this song all about?
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