Author Topic: WENGE BCBG MAYI YA SIKA!!!  (Read 20246 times)

archos #15 on: February 05, 2016, 09:25

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just for the record, yulu the man who created that selfie thing first  gave it  to cellulaire when he had a little disagreement with genta and jb refused it straight away along with a couple of animation genta and ben laden came with which were too explicit(reason why laden performed in none of the echauffement generiques)

Mukulu #16 on: February 05, 2016, 10:11

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Is it not Ben Laden on Ngunzama ?

archos #17 on: February 05, 2016, 10:22

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Is it not Ben Laden on Ngunzama ?

no still pajo genta and fusee

SADIKI TIGER #18 on: February 05, 2016, 11:08

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I didn't say JB Mpiana want to be famous as Fally, I said that if JB Mpiana and Wenge BCBG, especially, with the work of Tolbert and Fusèe could be as famous as Fally, because JB Mpiana is well known in Congo and in some parts of Africa but not internationally wide known as Fally, why? Because JB Mpiana's laziness in the last years made the people sick of waiting, in fact if you see people had to wait 5 years for balle de match, and is not out yet, even though he released some singles, in a country like Congo where, album are dropped every year. Period
Stop comparing groundnuts and bananas.

Fally is known internationally more simply because of his type of music and his collaborations with other artists, he does a different genre to that of JB Mpiana who sticks to African music and is way older than Fally.  One of Fally's idols is JB Mpiana so before you start insulting great artists defendingCongo, first reflect on the implications of your words. Yes, JB Mpiana is lazy musically because he is purely a singer, the man makes his money outside music and he funds a lot of these youngsters around so it's not like he just sits at home farting all day,he has things which are more important than music in his life,he is not a youngster, in his time ,he travelled the world like Fally and made his name and he is living on his past glory,people are always eager to hear his music because he has made his name already.

Please, don't start the war which will have no end. The guy has apologetically said he did not insult Congo. Yes, we agree, JB Mpiana had his time, where he was an Idol not only in Congo but also internationally. But, it has been a long period of time to come back at the same stage as he was before. It does not matter what he is doing now, whether he is dedicating most of his time in business for we music fans it does not matter. And it is mere fact that Fally, Ferre Gola Ipupa et al they are in spot light whether in Congo or internationally. And it is not the secret the great Mopao had resurfaced again in internationally with selfie no what is happening in Congo. Also, it is the mere fact the colleagues of JB Mpiana like Werrason at least in the past three years was also in the spot light in international arena with likes of Malewa.

Let wait and see may this time JB Mpiana with youngster will attract the attention of AFRICAN market as well international music market.


SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #19 on: February 05, 2016, 11:43

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Please, don't start the war which will have no end. The guy has apologetically said he did not insult Congo. Yes, we agree, JB Mpiana had his time, where he was an Idol not only in Congo but also internationally. But, it has been a long period of time to come back at the same stage as he was before. It does not matter what he is doing now, whether he is dedicating most of his time in business for we music fans it does not matter. And it is mere fact that Fally, Ferre Gola Ipupa et al they are in spot light whether in Congo or internationally. And it is not the secret the great Mopao had resurfaced again in internationally with selfie no what is happening in Congo. Also, it is the mere fact the colleagues of JB Mpiana like Werrason at least in the past three years was also in the spot light in international arena with likes of Malewa.

Let wait and see may this time JB Mpiana with youngster will attract the attention of AFRICAN market as well international music market.
The point am trying to make and which is being missed is that is JB Mpiana looking for fame,is his intention to get famous like Faly,Ferre ,Koffi and Werrason on an international level or he is content. JB Mpiana and most of his musicians when interviewed and constantly asked why it takes long for BCBG to release albums, the answer has always been the same, they want to release quality music to satisfy loyal fans,it's not about fame or business for them but having music that people will stand up and dance to with their partners etc not what will become so popular and play the world over and get them some money,BCBG despite having a poor marketing strategy has good ethos and reputation that is why they remain relevant today despite the same laziness we all refer to.
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EMOVICTEAM #20 on: February 05, 2016, 18:21

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There is no artist in the world let alone Congo, that sings for nothing other than money and fame.....popularity what ever you call it. Lets just say that jb has lost the steam.....the energy to drive him to the same popularity he had. Its not his fault alone....its the fault also of the team surrounding him.....otherwise he still aims to maintain popularity.

archos #21 on: February 05, 2016, 18:30

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yes popularity of course but i think there are various types of "popularity", simple example koffi werra and fally can rarely accept to spend 3 months without  massive spotlight,buzz or whatever we can call it, ferre sometimes joins that list, then you have jb,ya jossart,papa wemba for example who are more into having much more concerts than most artists in kinshasa, touring abroad without tuning it into an event... the two types are popular for different reasons and with different targets,and the target of any artist can be seen in how he deals with his career,but if i understand what most people including myself say about jb he's "entered the other type of popularity too early",not so?

EMOVICTEAM #22 on: February 05, 2016, 19:35

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yes popularity of course but i think there are various types of "popularity", simple example koffi werra and fally can rarely accept to spend 3 months without  massive spotlight,buzz or whatever we can call it, ferre sometimes joins that list, then you have jb,ya jossart,papa wemba for example who are more into having much more concerts than most artists in kinshasa, touring abroad without tuning it into an event... the two types are popular for different reasons and with different targets,and the target of any artist can be seen in how he deals with his career,but if i understand what most people including myself say about jb he's "entered the other type of popularity too early",not so?
Give jb back his titina......afande....richard mukena...caludji and keep tolbet and fusee n fire genta....mikulis....including roger ngandu and replace by good promotor, you can see a flip in jb.

archos #23 on: February 05, 2016, 20:07

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 we are actually saying the same thing bro,there is a mix of flaws like you rightly mentioned and  a "i have nothing more to prove" mentality  from jb and he says it openly on tv that he is not out there anymore to prove something to anybody which is why he does pretty much what he wants when he wants,and he makes up for the frustration it may cause  to his musicians of taking much more time to do things with his excellent relationship skills
obviously bro with titina afande and co there'd be  a brighter jb since they got more personality charisma and experience than the current crop,just as much as throwing back in maison mere kapaya or bill or ferre for example would impact on werra thats totally normal
no wonder  the congolese music in general has gone down with the ego issues which lead to leaders wanting less and less charismatic guys around and those guys accepting less and less to keep being under a leader
talking about caludji he ponders a return to bcbg when he goes back to kin

BG-ground #24 on: February 05, 2016, 20:53

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just for the record, yulu the man who created that selfie thing first  gave it  to cellulaire when he had a little disagreement with genta and jb refused it straight away along with a couple of animation genta and ben laden came with which were too explicit(reason why laden performed in none of the echauffement generiques)
Wo wo wo ohla oh la...hold on Archos, R u saying Selfie was given to Cellulaire and JB turned it down? He must be kicking himself in the Gut.just like he took off Bunia after that episode with Saï Saï.
When Libre Parcours, Selfie came out Fally and Koffi(or their staff) did a big job promoting the video a dances...Sadly with JB, we still waiting

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #25 on: February 06, 2016, 19:07

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just for the record, yulu the man who created that selfie thing first  gave it  to cellulaire when he had a little disagreement with genta and jb refused it straight away along with a couple of animation genta and ben laden came with which were too explicit(reason why laden performed in none of the echauffement generiques)
Wo wo wo ohla oh la...hold on Archos, R u saying Selfie was given to Cellulaire and JB turned it down? He must be kicking himself in the Gut.just like he took off Bunia after that episode with Saï Saï.
When Libre Parcours, Selfie came out Fally and Koffi(or their staff) did a big job promoting the video a dances...Sadly with JB, we still waiting
What is so special about ''selfie'' if i may ask? what is so special about someone saying ''kanga photo,buka kingo, toseka muke, ekoti te ekoti te''and repeated almost the entire duration of the song? There is better animation on 13eme Apotre ,even the animation ''Ah Yesu'' which Boguys Bompema first started on his solo album is better than the ekoti te animation,selfie makes no sense really,it's just a play song no wonder comedians are on it too,it's just proved popular because ''selfies'' are trending now.
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mampenza #26 on: February 06, 2016, 19:19

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There is no artist in the world let alone Congo, that sings for nothing other than money and fame.....popularity what ever you call it. Lets just say that jb has lost the steam.....the energy to drive him to the same popularity he had. Its not his fault alone....its the fault also of the team surrounding him.....otherwise he still aims to maintain popularity.
Of course, the bad is that JB as you said is surrounded by bad councelours, which not give him the right advices, JB Mpiana's skills as a singer and showman are like the ones of Fally, Ferre if you think about it. Balle de Match could be easily Album of the Year, but the wait has been too long. Are you understanding what I am trying to say right?

mampenza #27 on: February 06, 2016, 19:25

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just for the record, yulu the man who created that selfie thing first  gave it  to cellulaire when he had a little disagreement with genta and jb refused it straight away along with a couple of animation genta and ben laden came with which were too explicit(reason why laden performed in none of the echauffement generiques)
Wo wo wo ohla oh la...hold on Archos, R u saying Selfie was given to Cellulaire and JB turned it down? He must be kicking himself in the Gut.just like he took off Bunia after that episode with Saï Saï.
When Libre Parcours, Selfie came out Fally and Koffi(or their staff) did a big job promoting the video a dances...Sadly with JB, we still waiting
What is so special about ''selfie'' if i may ask? what is so special about someone saying ''kanga photo,buka kingo, toseka muke, ekoti te ekoti te''and repeated almost the entire duration of the song? There is better animation on 13eme Apotre ,even the animation ''Ah Yesu'' which Boguys Bompema first started on his solo album is better than the ekoti te animation,selfie makes no sense really,it's just a play song no wonder comedians are on it too,it's just proved popular because ''selfies'' are trending now.
Selfie is a pure commercial song it doesn't say anything but it is really funny to listen, this is why is so popular, and is modern, that is why is so famous, it is like Mascara, which was saying something but was also a funny a song with Fabregas fast style speaking and the Ya Mado dance.
Kindoki and Puissance/Ngunzama the two generique are better than Selfie and Mascara, but it doesn't have a video so people can only download it and can't know the dance if they don't go to watch the live performance on youtube, is a little thing but is costing JB the success he deserved, because honestly if Kindoki and Puissance/Tengama or Balle De Match had a video instead of the shitty petite ya quartier you would see JB making the same or maybe more views of selife and so on

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #28 on: February 06, 2016, 19:33

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Kindoki and Puissance/Ngunzama the two generique are better than Selfie and Mascara, but it doesn't have a video so people can only download it and can't know the dance if they don't go to watch the live performance on youtube, is a little thing but is costing JB the success he deserved, because honestly if Kindoki and Puissance/Tengama or Balle De Match had a video instead of the shitty petite ya quartier you would see JB making the same or maybe more views of selife and so on
The maxi single album JB Mpiana released was for his fans to have something to listen to for the new years celebrations as the full album ''Balle de Match'' is behind schedule, JB Mpiana listened to the cries of his fans and went into studio and within a few months came out with a fantastic maxi single. Had he not released, people would still have condemned him as usual. JB Mpiana is not the first Congolese musician to release an album without any video,others have done it before. JB Mpiana's business model is not ideal in a competitive market but he has a niche market of loyal fans who still wait for him to release albums and when he announces concerts, people still turn up in numbers so he is content with his style and i don't think he is bothered much about producing catchy stuff but quality stuff that people will listen to for many years to come, that is his style and we just have to appreciate it,if he was useless he would have sunk a long time ago like others who are now in oblivion like Manda Chante, Blaise Bula and even Alain Makaba. Let's give credit to JB Mpiana, he is a star in his own right and his formula has worked,yes, it would be nice if he can adjust and become modern with his marketing but nope,we are all different and he is not an exception.
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EMOVICTEAM #29 on: February 06, 2016, 20:08

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Sly.....do not defend JB Mpiana like he pays you commission to do so. If you look deeply into what is being talked about JB here, its purely positive criticism which is not hate as it seems from your angle. I mean how on earth can JB leave out four videos for only four songs? This maxi single is superb. Look here, small boys like robhinio, tabu peguy, brigade sabati, kevin mola, etc are releasing videos for the shit songs.....why not JB? A man your say is up there already? Come on man, a spade is a spade. The guy and team are a let down period.