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Jb's the type of person that didn't need to work as hard as the next person in music because he has natural talent and natural star power so it's obvious he lost motivation early on due to money and also having a lot of yes men and yes fans around him who baby him.
About departures as you rightfully said Jb's never had a mass departure to affect him especially in his prime because with Koffi and Werra when Academia was formed that's 7 key members that left and with the danger de mort team same thing Fally, Ferre, Mirage, Jipson, Junior, Apocalypse, all left at the same time then closely followed suit by Soleil, Bouro, Titina, Modogo.
With Werra he had the Wenge split and the departure of Les Marquis, or even Wazekwa when Joss and co went to QL. So Jb's never had that pressure because no one left him at the same time, because if you think about it when a proper influential member leaves the group it's sad but it doesn't affect the group long term that's why Jb's never really felt it.

But didn't JB Mpiana go through a big disappointment losing Alain Mpela? True, it's not the same as Les Marquis or Academia, but to continue without his right-hand man seemed very tough to handle. Also the ngulu affaire slowed up their ability to tour and record in Europe

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I really miss the way Levyson used to sing, on Obligatoire and with Z1 International. It's always with the autotune since then, but how's that solo career working out? Lmao dude was stupid for leaving

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Is there a reason why he left?

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I still don't understand why Marie Paul didn't took the idea of teaming up quickly with Zing Zong, JDT, Ya Yuyu and Rento Vena to record an album during his 6 month stay in Europe in 1995. According to many people his long absence in Kinshasa was a nightmare for Manda Chante and Depitcho, Depitcho also trying to get to Europe through Brazazville until, but changing his mind when Marie Paul finally returned. The must make a movie about he managed to return in Europe in 1995 with a false passeport through Brazzavile and the one of 2012. It seems that all journalist forget to ask Marie Paul the question of Palais du Peuple of 1997 or the YMCA-event in 2000 against Werrason.

So the fall out and Kongulu Mobutu suddenly changing camps has nothing to do with Wenge 4x4 decidated a song to him in Anges Adorables volume 1 like Dello Bass said, but because of Kongulu wanting get the total control of El Paris and getting rid of Francis Kalombo ? I didn't understand well what Marie Paul said, who was stealing money from them ? Was it Francis Kalombo or Kongolo Mobutu ? If it's Kongolo Mobutu, it's really weird, because he was already Mobutu's son, why does he have to get also money from poor musicians. Kongolo Mobutu really killed their career.

It's normal that Congolese artists would get jealous of El Paris. Receiving $200.000 dollars for just performing in Gbadolite in front of the Mobutu-clan along with Zaiko. It's sad that their isn't any video from their shows of 1994 or their event at l'Esplanade de Intercontinental of 1992. The impact they made in Kinshasa at that time was very huge.

What did Kongolo Mobutu think of the Wenge 4×4 split? If his father was never removed from power, would he side with Werra or JB Mpiana?

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Congolese Music / Re: NEW CLIP MISE A JOUR BY ERIC TUTSI
« on: June 14, 2021, 13:39 »
Whoever did the makeup for the vixen should he fired lmao good song btw

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dicarson did not interview roga,he just gave the information too of  what is going on and was telling kevin to wake up until its too late

Why does Roga even care about Kevin? He's miles ahead career wise.

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Congolese Music / Re: FIRE AT STUDIO NDIAYE
« on: June 11, 2021, 16:43 »
Who owns the studio?

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Like title says,from the news i got from brazza friends and i just saw again with journalist dicarson,roga roga is planning to destroy/weaken patrouille des stars by poaching biraman and his partner izebola,plus one singer,plus some of the instrumentists of that tight unit patrouille has had for over a decade(cousteau,ovy feeling,roma bass...)
biraman has apparently exactly like joss did said i want this and this and this  to sign,and roga agreed to it
and while all this happens,kevin remains calm and confident that nothing will happen exactly like wazekwa was until it things started getting real

Like title says,from the news i got from brazza friends and i just saw again with journalist dicarson,roga roga is planning to destroy/weaken patrouille des stars by poaching biraman and his partner izebola,plus one singer,plus some of the instrumentists of that tight unit patrouille has had for over a decade(cousteau,ovy feeling,roma bass...)
biraman has apparently exactly like joss did said i want this and this and this  to sign,and roga agreed to it
and while all this happens,kevin remains calm and confident that nothing will happen exactly like wazekwa was until it things started getting real

Don't underestimate Roga Roga, because Koffi's strategy did succeed. Maybe Kevin Mbouande could take advantage of the defections and subsequent sympathy to get the popularity he deserves, because his quality is consistent...but Roga always gets the attention

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i am sure this is one of the albums which got on your nerves bro,especially with that sam tshintu et l'akademia  thing

Was this album really a success, compared to Viagra? Cause I would be shocked lol

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What did he say?

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How can you compare a group album to solo-album.

If you had to compare. There wouldn't any debate. Loi was the best for Koffi. It has classic rumba's like Phaseur, S.O.S. and Airways. It has also Micko, which is Koffi's one of his  most famous song around Africa and of course Loi, who's the most danced generic on earth. The succes of Loi made Koffi get contracts for his shows at l'Olympia Bruno Coquatrix and Zenith de Paris, it made him tour many countries in Africa and fill stadiums there. He won the trophee 'Best African Male Artist' at the Kora Awards, which was really tough for him, having JB Mpiana, Awilo Longomba, Papa Wemba and General Defao in the same category. He won several awards for Loi at the Afri-Car Awards in Abidjan the same year. Loi also one of Koffi's best sold solo-albums.

Ultimatum was Quartier Latin's album who had normally had to be released in 1996, but due to the Wake-Up-project, it was pushed to 1997. Koffi had barely time to promote the album in Kinshasa, because he spent the most time in Europe and a few concerts in Kenya and Zambia or Tanzania that year. When he came back in Kinshasa he just spend 2/3 months to return to Europe again to finish the Loi-recordings, who he started recording in the same period as Ultimatum. Ultimatum was a huge succes anyway, but it didn't last long like Magie and Pas de Faux de Pas, because Koffi released Loi quickly after 7 months. Except the song Ultimatum, Koffi never perform songs of the Ultimatum-album in concerts compared to songs of the Loi-album. On rare occassion he used to perform the song Papa na Roissy of Nseka Passe Kosse, but that's not anymore the case, because he isn't part of Quartier Latin anymore. Academia profited more in long term of that album, because it had hit-songs of Sam Tshintu (Miss Nicole) and Modogo (Ali Deb's) on that album

Who is the woman that sings on Ali Deb's?

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Congolese Music / Re: OT: ARAFAT'S MOTHER LOST ANOTHER CHILD
« on: June 04, 2021, 21:45 »
What happened? How old was she?

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it happens  bro reminds me ofthe mama amy video with werra,mannn silawuka would have given binda very stiff competition if he stayed longer

Koffi must have loved Binda Bass like a son, because I would constantly be scared of my spot being poached. There were a lot of great bassist in QL lol

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The story about the ngulu who paid 4000 dollars shocked me. Not that he travalled with Beniko's passeport, but that
Koffi advised him to seek asylum on Beniko's name and marry in Brussels. Maybe it explains why Do Akongo struggeld to get in Europe for like 12 years, despite all money and support. I always thought that Koffi was never bringing ngulu's to Europe. There was a moment that people said that he became an adviser at the embassy of France in 2002 and Congolese bandleaders claiming that he was snitching on them for brining ngulu's and trying to block tours of his rivals, when being asked by the embassy if the band was credible to travel in Europe.

Lol, Academia really thought that they would finish Koffi with Viagra.Thinking that he would have the same effect Sanction had on Attentat. They didn't knew that Effrakata would eat them raw.It's crazy that people always thought that Koffi would go down because of his behaviour and all beefs he had, but he always managed to survive.

Mboshi is here already promoting the Olympia of 2002 that never came. So sad that they didn’t got the chance to perform there.

Pathy's claims about the arrangement of Quartier Latin not being anymore like it had to and comparing to it to streets, reminds me how people used to critize Attentat very hard and praising Academia's work of Sanction, calling Attentat a big fiasco and doubting if Koffi would fill Bercy with a work like that. But if you put today a poll of Attentat vs Sanction on social media, most will vote for Attentat. Force de Frappe and Effrakata made Koffi earn respect again after Droit de Veto  & Attenat for were not really respected and so/so.

Lol, Suzuki sayng that he don't see himself rejoining Quartier Latin, because he just bought a villa in Mont-Ngafula, Koffi only being able to buy cars. Suzuki says her that Bouro abandoned his wife and daugther to rejoin Quartier Latin. But it's known that musicians always spent 9/7 months in Kinshasa because of their work, but still being in contact with their wive and children based in Europe. Or did Bouro really abanoned them and cut contacts ? Anyways Bouro lost alot credibility when rejoining Quartier Latin, he had alot of succes (2000-2004) like his first period in Quartier Latin (1996-1999), but people weren't taking him serious anymore.

Is it safe to say that Koffi and Beniko will never be friends again? It seems like Koffi is the common denominator in a lot of conflicts and cold relationships. The JB Mpiana, Werrason, and many others seem to keep their distance because of the mind games he likes to play but then will act he doesn't understand why there's no unity.

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With credibility I meant the image people have for someone  to become a bandleader tomorrow. Bouro had still the fame he had and maybe even more than his first period. But it was not that music-fans were seeing him like his brother Alain Mpela, Bendoson (before returning to Wemba 2002), Sam Tshitu or Ferre Gola, to lead a band in the future. He messed that respect up by returning to Quartier Latin.

I'll never understand how Alain Mpela never took off as a solo artist, I've never seen a chef d'orchestra with his level of public notoriety and talent! He had an EP and a band after leaving JB Mpiana, but I don't understand why it never materialized into a successful solo career. Where did he go wrong? If I'm not mistaken, even Koffi was supportive of his departure from Wenge BCBG

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