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Damn very humiliating giving all your clothes and you have nothing at least Zaiko saved him.

Those things used to happen often in the Congolese music-scene when bands were about to travel to Europe via Brazzaville. Ngadiadia did the same thing to Alpatshino and Djany Fayi, when they were about to travel to Europe via Brazza. Djany Fayi’s ex’wife even divorced from him because of that.



From 30:53 min Djany explaining the whole story

Ngadiadia and Chic Choc Loyenge went to Europe once back in 1997 and the others left to join other groups the European is very scary to know who is going to Europe and who is ending up staying behind.

Ngadiadia, Mangwau, Siatula, Sans Soucis, they were like those bandleaders of Congolese music-scene. Forcing people out, not liking to share money, leaving their employees behind on trips on a very nasty way, etc. Thinking about that, that it isn't a big surpise because most Congolese people function like that, they alot don't like the share money, doesn't support when someone does it better than them and those who having companies don't like to pay their employees. I know someone in Kinshasa who has 6 jeeps at his home and 6 houses in Gombe, Kintambo and Binza, but doesn't pay his employees.

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Damn very humiliating giving all your clothes and you have nothing at least Zaiko saved him.

Yeah, but Willy Bula is ungrateful. He ignored Nyoka Longo in his recent interviews, forgetting that it’s because of Zaïko that he’s in Europe.

Yeah, I wasn't really impressed with Willy Bula because he suffered in Kinshasa from 1997-1999.

I always wonder how it would be if Willy Bula returned with Zaiko to Kinshasa, since that Zaiko was in a big dip after Poison, but his song Mbombo'a Mbwa having some succes at the same moment. At least Willy Bula made it to become "Chef de repetition" in Zaiko and Rocky Blanchard also getting a function in Zaiko (what a stupid move from him to return to Quartier Latin along with Beniko, getting a jeep that doesn't work. He had to refuse the offer like Willy).

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I also heard that Oxygene is in Paris, suffering from a oesophagus problem

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He is already since 4 months in Europe and came to rest and recover. In the same interview he talks about his depature from Extra Musica and says that Roga Roga was the person who recruited him in Extra Musica and that Oxygene was the man who taught him to sing after that he was recruited, since that he wasn't a real singer. Towards the end he gave Nouvelle Horizon, good luck after that the journalist kept forcing him to talk about Nouvelle Horizon, keeping repeating that Roga Roga was their president (what's wrong with those journalists), Herman denying it multiple times, hiting that Sonor Digital was behind the many departures in Extra Musica and that of him.

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Mfumu Vata, Willy Bula join Zaiko in January 1997 when Koffi left behind again right ?

Damn I can't imagine how Willy felt after left at Brazzaville. Did Koffi did the same thing to Babia and Lebou Kabuya (if i'm not wrong he was also left behind for the Europe tour of 1997, but he was on the team who participated to the concert in Abidjan which happen before they go to Europe correct me if i'm wrong) ?


The Abidjan concert was labeled as a 1997 concert, but in reality it was 1996 concert. The concert took place somewhere in december 1996, just after releasing Wake Up and it was the last before their farewell concert in Kinshasa. After that they went to Paris to give a concert for christmas or the new year eve (I don't remember since that its already more than 20 years ago) with the whole band having visa's of 1 year long in their pockets. Koffi often use African concerts before tours as test, you will see in the concert of Abidjan, he brought Claudine AC Milan instead of Miette Shegue. In the concert of Nairobi before Madeleine and Olympia, Modogo, Kamono and Binda Bass (he was lucky, that Rocky Blanchard hadn't a visa, otherwise Koffi would bring Blanchard instead of Binda and we wouldn't have heard the song Urgence on Droit de Veto) were absent. The same concerts in Kenya, Zambia, etc. made Koffi decide to bring only Mboshi to Olympia, seeing that he could animate concerts alone. Before Bercy, he went on tour in Cameroon, without Beniko Popolipo and Do Akongo, testing how Bercy would be without them (them accepting it and thinking that it was a way to make the team of Fally, Kusa and co more mature, not knowing that Koffi had a plan against them).

Willy Bula spent some weeks at home, thinking about his future and then decided to join Zaiko Langa Langa. After that Babia Ndonga was contacted by people to join also Zaiko Langa Langa who was looking for new musicians, but he refused and decided to join Anti Choc since that he used to be a big fan of their band in his young days, like many people coming from the N'djili-area where Bozi used to have a big fanbase.

Koffi Olomide was doubting between Do Akongo and Lebou Kabuya, when he was about to tour to Europe, since that he was only bringing 3 guitarists at that time. Do Akongo had at that time never the chance to travel to Quartier Latin, while Lebou already went three times and his relation with Koffi was cold since the death of dancer Mboyo. (alot of things happened when she died, which made Lebou furious. One of the things was that Koffi called his girlfriend of France, saying that Lebou had AIDS like Mboyo, etc. Which didn't please him and leave Quartier Latin for a moment) So Koffi decided to bring Do Akongo, who had also a song in Ultimatum.

Babia Ndonga tought that he would go to Europe, since that he was the biggest star of Quartier Latin at that moment, after the succes of Magie and V12. He was surprised that Koffi picked Bouro over him, who was then just 3 months in the band and not very known. Babia tried to attack Bouro Mpela with a broken beer-bottle when he was, but people stopped him. So he then tried to suicide himself by brinking gasoline and was brought to the hospital.

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Damn very humiliating giving all your clothes and you have nothing at least Zaiko saved him.

Yeah, but Willy Bula is ungrateful. He ignored Nyoka Longo in his recent interviews, forgetting that it’s because of Zaïko that he’s in Europe.

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Damn very humiliating giving all your clothes and you have nothing at least Zaiko saved him.

Those things used to happen often in the Congolese music-scene when bands were about to travel to Europe via Brazzaville. Ngadiadia did the same thing to Alpatshino and Djany Fayi, when they were about to travel to Europe via Brazza. Djany Fayi’s ex’wife even divorced from him because of that.



From 30:53 min Djany explaining the whole story

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Congolese Music / Re: FABREGAS SIGNS WITH SONY MUSIC AFRICA
« on: February 06, 2020, 13:54 »
What's the difference of Sony Music Africa and Universal Music Africa who are settled in Ivory Coast compared to Sony Music and Universal Music who are based in New York, having Davido and Wizkid as artists? Will those signing with them in Abidjan, also being promoted on a high level like them, because I didn't saw any progess or difference when DJ Arafat signed with them. Or is it just that they will get proper promotion in Francophone Africa and that their rights will be protected ?

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Sur La Route de Bercy was the best followed by Droit de Veto a Kinshasa/Zenith '98 a Guichet a Fermee. Would never forget the part of Gipson talking and trying to do Sam's vocal of Urgence, so funny hahaha and Soleil looking like a kuluna, who wants to beat someone. The best part of that of Sarbatino, wanting to attack Bouro Mpela. All videoclips Koffi made for Droit de Veto in that VHS were trash, but the one he made for Sens Inverse was excellent. I liked those BTS videos of Zenith and the concert in Yaounde they used for the Sens Inverse-videoclip. I hope that someone uploads that videotape in HD.


I also liked the one of Kisanola, but I found it weird that they didn't let Titina Al Capone talk, they showed a image of during the song Milkshake. Maybe that the thing Tshe Tshe le Balle said about him & Bibicia could be true.

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This is the first time I've seen the Quartier Latin concert in 1995 Willy's Bula absence on the Magie song is really empty.

Yeah, back in those days, people were waiting for Willy Bula because of the succes of the song Petit Na London, he used then to be second star of the group after Babia who was already in Europe. But instead of Willy, brought Eric Tutsi, just to punish him after sleeping with one of his dancers. Willy Bula had the visa of the Schengen-area in the passeport, but Koffi saved it in his office to punish him and said nothing to him. Willy tought that he would go to Europe and even gave all his clothes away to his friends and family-members, but got then informed by Koffi himself when they came at Beach Ngobila to go to Brazzaville. Imagine how big the humilation was for Willy to go back to his home. But he would get over it some weeks after it and started to organise workshops in Bandal, having a kind of a streetband with Fally, Bouro and co.

After Magie, there would always one star missing from every Europe tour. In 1995 it was Willy Bula, then in 1996/97 it was Babia and the tour of Olympia it was Suzuki who missed out.

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Sending shots says nothing about how someone feels in his heart. Koffiwas very depressed in the months before Attentat. He even said at some point that he was thinking about stopping with music. He also cried on the plane they took from Dar Es Salaam to Kinshasa, becoming on the same time very sick and started to cough multiple times when he tried to talk. He was himself again after the victory of Bercy, which gave him his confidence back. CNN once said in an interview hade made 6 years ago, that Koffi send him away when he was about to do his test, being really depressed over the departures, saying very angry "look that little kid, can he do cries like Mboshi and Somono".

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I'm also very dissapointed after seeing this. The booklets of Shalai & Etat Major were better. I think that the booklet of Etat Major is the best they ever made. They mentioned the Kora 2000 on the Trop c'est Trop-booklet. I will never forget that humilation. We all from DRC excepted Wenge Maison Mere to win that award as best African Group. On the song Bikkisa Nga Kayembe which didn't make it on the cd, Herman once mentioned that "l'humiliation est le jugement de competence, Extra Musica Kora l'an 2000". That victory made them finally really getting over that long inferiority complex towards Wenge Musica 4x4.

lol, Roga Roga getting the full credits of arrangement and the artistic direction. On the first albums of Extra, they were crediting Durrel Loemba, Espe Bass and Roga, then after the split Espe & Roga and here in the gets the full credit for the arrangement and artisitic direction. But it's ok, he worked hard on this album and give 300%. All his sebenes on this album were excellement, from Zangul Zangul to Moselekete from 12 Balles to N'Julie. He never reached that level again. It once shows that rivalery is very important, because the Merci-album of Extra Musica International pushed them to work very hard and show their supremacy over Clan-Extra, like they did on Shalai as reaction to the Super Helico-album.

I see that Nathalie Geslin is credited as one of the managers under the label of JPS Production. I thought that she was working for Sonodisc, because saw here often being credited on Koffi's albums or was she just indepedent ?

It's a shame that there was never a Trop c'est Trop-concert in Paris.

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Today is very easy to appear on RFI, France 24, TV5, Tele Sud and Africa N1. 20 years ago, people saw it as a big event if Congolese artists would be interviewed by those radio/tv channels and if their videoclip would be broadcasted on TV5. But now its very easy, even for upcoming artists. I see that Congolese female artist (I forgot her name) who just released a single were she sung in Kingbandi and recently signed with Universal MusicAfrica , being hard promoted on the Francophone media, but the vues on youtube aren't very strong.

I hope that they will one day release those archives of Koffi Olomide and Papa Wemba being interviewed by those media. I remember Koffi being interviewed on TV5 before the Bercy-event, bringing with him Goumba Gawlo, which made many Congolese people being shocked. Because didn't knew who she was and taught the girl singing on Si Si Si was a pretty girl. I will also never forget the interview Koffi with Robert Brazza on Africa N1 (back in the days it was the most followed radio of the Francophone Africa and its diaspora in Europe), the interview was made some weeks after the creation of Academia and Koffi cried when Robert Brazza asked him about their departure.

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Congolese Music / Re: FERRE'S NEW INTERVIEW WITH NOLY TAMBU
« on: February 05, 2020, 21:41 »
Ferre Gola often says that he used to be 14 years old, when they interview him about Wenge 4x4 or the start of Wenge Maison Mere. He said the same thing when he was interviewed in Ivory Coast 3 years, when I think Line Jaber or Caroline Da Sylva asked about his clothes he whore in the Vita Imana-clip and Ferre replying that he was 14 years old when he made that clip. I think that Ferre is just not strong in remebering numbers, years and ages.

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