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Congolese Music / Re: Serge Mabiala & Ado Yuhe part 2
« Last post by D Tabzy on Today at 15:59 »
Cos he's honest
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Congolese Music / Re: WOW, RIP JACOB DESVARIEUX
« Last post by Matebu on Today at 15:57 »
Saddened by the news of his passing on. Loved his contribution in Na Touche. May he RIP.
The song Na Touche gets stuck in my head every time I play it. One of the very best zouk songs from an african artist
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because he was jb's favorite,and anyways the news was badly reported it was karaoke and reported as concert
the things is that from him being given his album there was a lot of subtle mindgames going on,everytime jb would take time to give him money or to allow him to go record in france as he needs him for some concerts in kin abraham would report to fally who "managed" him throughout the album process so fally was using his own experience to anticipate 12 on him at every given opportunity which is why when the guys got suspended he ran away fearing a coming 12 as the camp of seguin jdl were telling jb that he's preparing a rebel group within the band because he barely associated first teamers to his album except genta fusee sunda bass tolbert while it was meant to be an album played by the core of bcbg but with guests,while jb did not plan any 12 he really wanted to replicate what papa wemba did,despite all the "what if" he was hearing from his court jesters
and its from abraham's sudden departure that he decided to make it again a taboo for an artist to think about an album in the group(sunda and abel then leaving after seeing their idea collapse)
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Congolese Music / Re: Serge Mabiala & Ado Yuhe part 2
« Last post by archos on Today at 13:55 »
i can already see mabialo getting insulted
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I think that you didn't watch the video. Yeah most musicians of Viva didn't like him, but at that time they were all decided to support him.
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This whole album I love it , especially Coeur de Trop that one has my favourite sebene of the album
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Congolese Music / BOEING 737 KINANGA TALKS ABOUT EMPIRE BAKUBA
« Last post by archos on Today at 11:32 »


Yet to  watch in full but from the intro he talked about how pepe kalle's traditional power got removed by the chiefs in front of his coffin and not passed to either dilu dilumona or papy tex because for him they lacked that charisma to be leaders of the remaining group,and he said papy tex was not liked bymusicians when he wanted to take control of the group the day he came a dancer collapsed
he went on like papy tex and did not like him and that he benefitted nothing from cocktail with the sudden death of pepe kalle
and when lofombo and djuna went to create delta force he told lofombo that their project would succeed only if empire totally collapsed
when pepe kalle died,lofombo djouna united with late pepe kalle's wife and primus admins called for a reunion to see how things would go after pepe's death,and they told dilu that the camp of lofombo djuna and the delta force guys said that dilu forced  them out and thats why he says that dilu lacked leadership because a true leader would not have handled it that way
when pepe died,dilu told musicians in a rude way that he was not liking the way the group was operating while it was how it was when pepe was alive and that allegedly he said whoever is unhappy with the decisions he made as the new leader can follow pepe in cemetery if he wants and dilu seemed happy with the split  and was saying that its God's plan and he asked to speak  and said its from his idea that the generation of lofombo papillon and co arrived in the guitar section,and he suggested also to pepe kalle to recruit new singers because the singers lineup apart from the 3 leaders was weak and unpopular,and  pepe had named him vice-president of empire bakuba,so he is strongly against split and asks for dilu to accept them back without any conditions,as dilu wanted to restart tests for them all
djuna who was already determined to leave and become a bigger chef on the new side they'd create stood and acted like he wanted to beat him and he told him approach and you'll see what will happen
haha the story of thatreunion reminds me of 4X4 split
when dilu remained as the president and primus maintained the contract,dilu allocated the rehearsal hall and instruments to a church so musicians when coming to rehearsal were surprised to see that there was church(reminds me of lofombo saying vieux dilu catholique moko nanu namona te) when they were supposed to rehearseand the bralima chiefs were informed and that came to give order that he gives presidence of the group to him boeing and things were bouncing back well then papy tex arrived and a bad atmosphere came back again and papy tex decided on his own to make interview with musicians like shella mputu,kalo bass and co saying  that he'll  bring them to europe while many of the members he found were not aware
papy tex wanted to get rid of the guys he found as longterm empire members so that he has full leadership on the younger ones like shella kalo and co and he suggested  tex that they should change the name of the group since that name had spiritual power linked to pepe kalle who was made traditional chief by the kuba tribe guys and neither tex or dilu inherited that power
the traditional chefs called him and dilu(before tex arrived) and asked who would accept it and both were scared and left
so him boeing decided to prove tex a point for the way he came and wanted to get rid of everybody to remain with new members by creating empire fondation and he  remembers a fikin event where koffi was performing for vodacom jb had to perform with primus but he was in angola so they stepped in and had great success and were produced by jps and they went to europe to record and shoot clips with the plan of performing at stade des martyrs at their return whether its full or not but once in europe singers started to rebel thinking he was getting big money andnot paying them,while according to him he was sacrificing for them before they'd return and sign lucrative primus contract
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Congolese Music / Re: WOW, RIP JACOB DESVARIEUX
« Last post by princesab on Today at 10:10 »
DAH..... COVID.!!!!?!??
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i was talking minutes ago with my big bro back in kin who is mbuta kiss second assistant and a couple of friends in a conference,and we were argueing about jb's career,as usual compared to the other big 4 members
most  went either for his loss of motivation due to early big money making and success,or for his visa issues,or for his family issues
and i raised something i have sometimes thought about  and this was my thought
papa wemba through multiple massive departure waves and had to take a challenge to resist,werra went through two big waves of musicians leaving,having him to take the challenge to prove that he can assemble again a strong maison mere,being already a guy whose post wenge 4X4 career was fuelled by the challenge of bouncing back
koffi had to face the wave of academia and the wave of ferre's arrival(even though it  lead to radical choice but still it was challenge for him to prove he can exist after them)
when i talk about adversity and jb i am not  talking about his rivalry with werra but finding himself in a challenge regarding his group
it has never happened,all those who left bcbg either left because he did not mind them leaving for his authority,or because they left and the week after it was already forgotten almost,no matter how influential the person was(perfect example is alain mpela,any of the other big 4 guys would organise reunion after reunion,make plans of poaching a guy from rival group to make up,but in bcbg it just went smooth
so i think the fact he never found himself under pressure to do something to save his group lead to all those holes  in his image especially with europe young fans,as he never felt the pressure to adjust to demand of young fanbase in a reshaping process
unlike all the other big 4 members who all had to look for profiles of artists to recreate a collective image after losing against their will many talents
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Congolese Music / Fabregas and Light Music recording a generique
« Last post by Jdog on Today at 10:06 »
Sounds good, but the animation doesn’t really make sense to me.
https://www.facebook.com/fabregasmaestrometisnoir/videos/860337534593822/
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