Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Congomusiclover001 on May 07, 2016, 02:57
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Just playing old music today and started to float this theory in my head.
What if Flamme Kapaya returned to WMMM. Will he bring back the good old days of fast paced sebenes and generiques? Can he coexist with Arc en ciel?
What if Bebe Kero returned to QL. Will he be a frontliner? Will he be versatile enough to bring the good old days back?
What if Celeo and Bill Kalonji returned to WMMM for one more album (no Lobeso, no Diego, no Ambulance), Will you buy the album?
What if Tutu Caluji returned for one more album with BCBG (no new crew), will you rank BCBG higher
What if QL of old (Fally, Felly, Soleil, Gipson...etc) reassembled for one live concert (No Cindy) will you go watch them?
I can't help but think that the old crews of current bands were the better crew. Thoughts?
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If Flamme Kapaya came back to Maison mere then he would for sure bring back the old days but Arc en ciel is getting better. Whether they co-exist or not is up to them as individuals.
Bebe Kero could try but I think Nzinga will still be the number one and Kero doesn't have that good of a voice anymore.
Yes I will listen to a Bill and Celeo generique with Maison Mere.
Simply No, I don't rate him high like other people do.
Yes of course, I actually hope then can do a reunion concert because that group is my fav off all time in all the groups.
Bcbg has better singers now then back then.
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Arc will knockout anybody that comes back...
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yes flamme could but i don't know if he can coexist with arc
naa bebe kero's time has passed cause he's not a kid anymore
of course i would listen to bill and celeo's participation in the album
archos said recently that tutu callugi is tempting to return to bcbg but apart of me thinks there's no point since he could risk being seen the same way as the old guys are and end up being wanted out of the group with all due respect to him
I would pay any money to go watch the old QL with NO CINDY heck I would pay for her to disappear from the band and I think anybody in their right mind would too
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yes caludji really wants or wanted to go back and alain mpela aswell,but jb tells them the same thing they are too big to be normal musicians and they just have to discuss with the chefs(genta,fudji,jdl,seguin,sunda bass,ficarre,kibens) about reclaiming either chef d'orchestre of genta's vice president role
and of course,they also hesitate because returning will be seen as a failure
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Tutu became irrelevant in BCBG and would be now, remember he quit animation alltogether and simply became a tenorist,well,now we have better tenorists in BCBG.
Flamme Kapaya co-existing with Arc en Ciel.....welll, you know Werrason tests all his soloists using what Kapaya created so you know that like Mogratana, Japonais and the other soloists, once Kapaya returns, Arc en Ciel would most likely be on mi-solo and coming to play on or two lead songs on the albums and live shows. Flamme Kapaya is the ultimate soloist who any band would want to hire,he is consistent and creative,he doesn't play anybody's work but his.
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Its clear why the ultimate soloist is out of work especially after the ghost creator of his classic riffs exposed him.
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Its clear why the ultimate soloist is out of work especially after the ghost creator of his classic riffs exposed him.
dude you have to accept the fact that flamme kapaya is a dangerous soloist and arc en ciel is just a kid everyone knows that ;D you seem to really love arc en ciel LOL
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Its clear why the ultimate soloist is out of work especially after the ghost creator of his classic riffs exposed him.
I think it's fair to say all good artists or musicians learned their trade from someone. The only problem I would have with this is if Flamme has NEVER acknowledged that he was instructed by someone. Also, I think it's safe to say Flamme has created several exciting riffs since being taught. Ergo, you can't take his name off the history book. Let's face it, most if not all soloists want to play like him.
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Its clear why the ultimate soloist is out of work especially after the ghost creator of his classic riffs exposed him.
I think it's fair to say all good artists or musicians learned their trade from someone. The only problem I would have with this is if Flamme has NEVER acknowledged that he was instructed by someone. Also, I think it's safe to say Flamme has created several exciting riffs since being taught. Ergo, you can't take his name off the history book. Let's face it, most if not all soloists want to play like him.
All soloists learn from and often borrow from others, but what I am saying here is that even those catchy riffs are not his creations ,which explains why ( minus the ghost creators) he is not making much noise.
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Its clear why the ultimate soloist is out of work especially after the ghost creator of his classic riffs exposed him.
dude you have to accept the fact that flamme kapaya is a dangerous soloist and arc en ciel is just a kid everyone knows that ;D you seem to really love arc en ciel LOL
You don't have to love somebody to see their potential ,with or without ghost creators ...
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yes caludji really wants or wanted to go back and alain mpela aswell,but jb tells them the same thing they are too big to be normal musicians and they just have to discuss with the chefs(genta,fudji,jdl,seguin,sunda bass,ficarre,kibens) about reclaiming either chef d'orchestre of genta's vice president role
and of course,they also hesitate because returning will be seen as a failure
personally I think they should both stay far away from bcbg I mean look at the band its so crowded already there's so much mess in the group and no disrespect to them but they're a bit old to go back they should just leave space to the younger ones and I'm quite surprised alain mpela wants to go back if he really tries he will do fine on his own
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the only person that i want back in bcbg is Titina alcapone , the rest can just leave .
or better yet reform a wenge cours des grands ( massela , makaba, mpela , kaludji, aimelia. ali mbonda) where they can have jb or werra , adolph, bula ) as guest time to time suring concert. actually in my opinion they can end up doing even better than the two main wenge. having people like kinbens backing them up with songs and stuff.
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QL of Fally and co would stand the highest chance of regrouping with a killer show...
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QL of Fally and co would stand the highest chance of regrouping with a killer show...
With Fally's current status, he would have to be super humble to stand on the same stage with Bouro, Soleil, Montana, Gibson Cardinal, and the guy with the shaky voice now in zaiko, and all of whom had failed CDs and musical careers. But never the less, I think it would still be one of the best shows ever if Koffi could get them all together one more time.
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QL of Fally and co would stand the highest chance of regrouping with a killer show...
With Fally's current status, he would have to be super humble to stand on the same stage with Bouro, Soleil, Montana, Gibson Cardinal, and the guy with the shaky voice now in zaiko, and all of whom had failed CDs and musical careers. But never the less, I think it would still be one of the best shows ever if Koffi could get them all together one more time.
I think it would bruise their egos big time...
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QL of Fally and co would stand the highest chance of regrouping with a killer show...
With Fally's current status, he would have to be super humble to stand on the same stage with Bouro, Soleil, Montana, Gibson Cardinal, and the guy with the shaky voice now in zaiko, and all of whom had failed CDs and musical careers. But never the less, I think it would still be one of the best shows ever if Koffi could get them all together one more time.
Reminiscent to this...https://youtu.be/hD1H_Q-qcv0
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QL of Fally and co would stand the highest chance of regrouping with a killer show...
With Fally's current status, he would have to be super humble to stand on the same stage with Bouro, Soleil, Montana, Gibson Cardinal, and the guy with the shaky voice now in zaiko, and all of whom had failed CDs and musical careers. But never the less, I think it would still be one of the best shows ever if Koffi could get them all together one more time.
Reminiscent to this...https://youtu.be/hD1H_Q-qcv0
Ahh felly tyson !
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All soloists learn from and often borrow from others, but what I am saying here is that even those catchy riffs are not his creations ,which explains why ( minus the ghost creators) he is not making much noise.
Which riffs and who was the so called ''ghost creator.'' Ghost creator or not, Flamme Kapaya is an icon of congolese soloists out there whether he is in work now or not. Flamme Kapaya has never gone on video boasting about what he creates ,he has stated who inspired him and who polished up his skills(one who is his older brother Zing). That boy you praise so much, Arc en Ciel gives a lot of respect to Flamme Kapaya and Patou Solo whom he considers some of the best and inspire him so how a fan of Arc en Ciel like you would say Arc en Ciel is better than Kapaya is simply absurd.
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All soloists learn from and often borrow from others, but what I am saying here is that even those catchy riffs are not his creations ,which explains why ( minus the ghost creators) he is not making much noise.
Which riffs and who was the so called ''ghost creator.'' Ghost creator or not, Flamme Kapaya is an icon of congolese soloists out there whether he is in work now or not. Flamme Kapaya has never gone on video boasting about what he creates ,he has stated who inspired him and who polished up his skills(one who is his older brother Zing). That boy you praise so much, Arc en Ciel gives a lot of respect to Flamme Kapaya and Patou Solo whom he considers some of the best and inspire him so how a fan of Arc en Ciel like you would say Arc en Ciel is better than Kapaya is simply absurd.
Yup is was absurd until he sent Japonais, Daddy Bola and Mongratana packing btw here's one of the ghosts...
https://youtu.be/mG3nZnJAtCY
https://youtu.be/8NXXyIVwImg
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And this is why Arc never played Flamme's riffs to win and stay on the helm...
https://youtu.be/cJ8PsNCnjtc
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why do you like this kid so much ;D ;D he's not even that good compare to the other soloists out there
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why do you like this kid so much ;D ;D he's not even that good compare to the other soloists out there
You seem to have your mind made up that he's no good; maybe we should start with you backing up your stand with hard evidence...
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why did popolipo left quartier latin
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why did popolipo left quartier latin
Because his ex'big friend Koffi left him behind in Kinshasa, when they wanted to perform at Bercy. Koffi left him behind, because he wasn't happy that he invited his rival Emeneya and guys like Pathy Bass, Somono Dolce and Bouro Mpela(who just started Academia) on his solo album Alerte Rouge. Since that day he never spoke to Koffi again and Koffi still regrets his depature because he contributed alot in Quartier Latin, Koffi 's carreer (even before Quartier Latin), Tcha-Tcho/Zebola rhythm(along with Do-Akongo) and he coached guys like Felly Tyson, Lebou Kabuya & Rocky Blanchard before becoming big solists and bassist.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F1HpeHDLyZg
from 14:25 min he explains in details the reason what Koffi did to him before to left him behind in Kinshasa with Do Akongo
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tindika tia cale :D :D :D i also heard from vieux popolipo in another interview that koffi kicked him of the house he was living in(which is "normal" given how congolese musicians deal with falll-outs)