Author Topic: GROUP DYNAMICS......WHAT IF?  (Read 15591 times)

Congomusiclover001 on: May 07, 2016, 02:57

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Just playing old music today and started to float this theory in my head.

What if Flamme Kapaya returned to WMMM. Will he bring back the good old days of fast paced sebenes and generiques? Can he coexist with Arc en ciel?

What if Bebe Kero returned to QL. Will he be a frontliner? Will he be versatile enough to bring the good old days back?

What if Celeo and Bill Kalonji returned to WMMM for one more album (no Lobeso, no Diego, no Ambulance), Will you buy the album?

What if Tutu Caluji returned for one more album with BCBG (no new crew), will you rank BCBG higher

What if QL of old (Fally, Felly, Soleil, Gipson...etc) reassembled for one live concert (No Cindy) will you go watch them?

I can't help but think that the old crews of current bands were the better crew. Thoughts?


Jdog #1 on: May 07, 2016, 03:32

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If Flamme Kapaya came back to Maison mere then he would for sure bring back the old days but Arc en ciel is getting better. Whether they co-exist or not is up to them as individuals. 

Bebe Kero could try but I think Nzinga will still be the number one and Kero doesn't have that good of a voice anymore.

Yes I will listen to a Bill and Celeo generique with Maison Mere.

Simply No, I don't rate him high like other people do.

Yes of course, I actually hope then can do a reunion concert because that group is my fav off all time in all the groups.

Bcbg has better singers now then back then.
Or moto asala le monde eza yo Nzambe tata, Kita okata po mokili trop matata, kata- Fally Ipupa

KAISARI #2 on: May 07, 2016, 03:40

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Arc will knockout anybody that comes back...
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CM PRINCE #3 on: May 07, 2016, 04:32

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yes flamme could but i don't know if he can coexist with arc

naa bebe kero's time has passed cause he's not a kid anymore

of course i would listen to bill and celeo's participation in the album

archos said recently that tutu callugi is tempting to return to bcbg but apart of me thinks there's no point since he could risk being seen the same way as the old guys are and end up being wanted out of the group with all due respect to him

I would pay any money to go watch the old QL with NO CINDY heck I would pay for her to disappear from the band and I think anybody in their right mind  would too

archos #4 on: May 07, 2016, 08:13

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 yes caludji really wants or wanted to go back and alain mpela aswell,but jb tells them the same thing they are too big to be normal musicians  and they just have to discuss with the chefs(genta,fudji,jdl,seguin,sunda bass,ficarre,kibens) about reclaiming either chef d'orchestre of genta's vice president role
and of course,they also hesitate because returning will be seen as a failure

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #5 on: May 07, 2016, 10:24

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Tutu became irrelevant in BCBG and would be now, remember he quit animation alltogether and simply became a tenorist,well,now we have better tenorists in BCBG.

Flamme Kapaya co-existing with Arc en Ciel.....welll, you know Werrason tests all his soloists using what Kapaya created so you know that like Mogratana, Japonais and the other soloists, once Kapaya returns, Arc en Ciel would most likely be on mi-solo and coming to play on or two lead songs on the albums and live shows. Flamme Kapaya is the ultimate soloist who any band would want to hire,he is consistent and creative,he doesn't play anybody's work but his.
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KAISARI #6 on: May 07, 2016, 10:59

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Its clear why the ultimate soloist is out of work especially after the ghost creator of his classic riffs exposed him.
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dbz123 #7 on: May 07, 2016, 12:48

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Its clear why the ultimate soloist is out of work especially after the ghost creator of his classic riffs exposed him.
dude you have to accept the fact that flamme kapaya is a dangerous soloist and arc en ciel is just a kid everyone knows that  ;D you seem to really love arc en ciel LOL

Congomusiclover001 #8 on: May 07, 2016, 13:12

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Its clear why the ultimate soloist is out of work especially after the ghost creator of his classic riffs exposed him.

I think it's fair to say all good artists or musicians learned their trade from someone. The only problem I would have with this is if Flamme has NEVER acknowledged that he was instructed by someone. Also, I think it's safe to say Flamme has created several exciting riffs since being taught. Ergo, you can't take his name off the history book. Let's face it, most if not all soloists want to play like him.

KAISARI #9 on: May 07, 2016, 15:32

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Its clear why the ultimate soloist is out of work especially after the ghost creator of his classic riffs exposed him.

I think it's fair to say all good artists or musicians learned their trade from someone. The only problem I would have with this is if Flamme has NEVER acknowledged that he was instructed by someone. Also, I think it's safe to say Flamme has created several exciting riffs since being taught. Ergo, you can't take his name off the history book. Let's face it, most if not all soloists want to play like him.
All soloists learn from and often borrow from others, but what I am saying here is that even those catchy riffs are not his creations ,which explains  why ( minus the ghost creators) he is not making much noise.
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KAISARI #10 on: May 07, 2016, 18:15

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Its clear why the ultimate soloist is out of work especially after the ghost creator of his classic riffs exposed him.
dude you have to accept the fact that flamme kapaya is a dangerous soloist and arc en ciel is just a kid everyone knows that  ;D you seem to really love arc en ciel LOL
You don't have to love somebody to see their potential ,with or without ghost creators ...
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CM PRINCE #11 on: May 08, 2016, 01:31

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yes caludji really wants or wanted to go back and alain mpela aswell,but jb tells them the same thing they are too big to be normal musicians  and they just have to discuss with the chefs(genta,fudji,jdl,seguin,sunda bass,ficarre,kibens) about reclaiming either chef d'orchestre of genta's vice president role
and of course,they also hesitate because returning will be seen as a failure
personally I think they should both stay far away from bcbg I mean look at the band its so crowded already there's so much mess in the group and no disrespect to them but they're a bit old to go back they should just leave space to the younger ones and I'm quite surprised alain mpela wants to go back if he really tries he will do fine on his own

mrvibes #12 on: May 08, 2016, 02:28

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the only person that i want back in bcbg is Titina alcapone , the rest can just leave .
 
or  better yet  reform a wenge cours des grands ( massela , makaba, mpela , kaludji, aimelia. ali mbonda)  where they can have jb or werra , adolph, bula ) as guest time to time suring concert. actually in my opinion they can end up doing even better than the two main wenge.  having people like kinbens  backing them up with songs and stuff.

KAISARI #13 on: May 08, 2016, 05:19

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QL of Fally and co would stand the highest chance of regrouping with a killer show...
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Congomusiclover001 #14 on: May 08, 2016, 14:43

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QL of Fally and co would stand the highest chance of regrouping with a killer show...

With Fally's current status, he would have to be super humble to stand on the same stage with Bouro, Soleil, Montana, Gibson Cardinal, and the guy with the shaky voice now in zaiko, and all of whom had failed CDs and musical careers. But never the less, I think it would still be one of the best shows ever if Koffi could get them all together one more time.