Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: mvulusi96 on March 13, 2019, 14:50
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V4ronZaZQVw
The famous concert in Germany where all ex'Quartier Latin were talking about in interviews. Lebou Kabuya disrespecting Rigo Star by not wanting to give him the lead-guitare which made him to play lead. The concert used to be on the youtube-channel of Pan African Music. I never understood why it got deleted. I remember that it the video was titled as "Bonne Annee '99", so means it that Droit de Veto was released early 1999 ? But I saw also a concert of Koffi Olomide in Brussels at Concert Noble on Cyprien Wetchi (I can't find the video) with Koffi Olomide wishing people happy new year(making then the mistake that he wants to hurt more people in 1999, but correcting it quickly lol) and Youyou Tchivundu and Zina Bilaho still being there.
Babia Ndonga already left here, hanging then around in Paris with his friends of Ndjili. Zina Bilaho, Rossette Kamono & Youyou Tshivundu also already left (They and Nono were wondering then how their lives would be after the tour, being scared to be fired because of all those tensions in the band).
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@mvulusi96
Was Somono the first to leave? I didn't see him after their Zenith concert of 98
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@mvulusi96
Was Somono the first to leave? I didn't see him after their Zenith concert of 98
No, btw this is the after Zenith 1998. He participated to all concerts of the Europe-tour 1998-99, except Olympia. The first musician to leave was Babia Ndonga, then Pathy Bass left and then Bouro Mpela. Lebou Kabuya & Somono decided to stay when the tour was finished. Sam Tshintu & Modogo made the mistake to follow Therese Landu Bayaka and other girls while Koffi sent them, so they were forced to go back to Africa (Zimbabwe & Tanzania).
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This concert was a mess..... No one wanted to be there.
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Hahahaha Claudine AC Milan not wanting to dance to that "ndombolo aa ndombolo"part ... where is she these days?
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@mvulusi96
Was Somono the first to leave? I didn't see him after their Zenith concert of 98
No, btw this is the after Zenith 1998. He participated to all concerts of the Europe-tour 1998-99, except Olympia. The first musician to leave was Babia Ndonga, then Pathy Bass left and then Bouro Mpela. Lebou Kabuya & Somono decided to stay when the tour was finished. Sam Tshintu & Modogo made the mistake to follow Therese Landu Bayaka and other girls while Koffi sent them, so they were forced to go back to Africa (Zimbabwe & Tanzania).
where the girls Tanzanian or Zimbabwean or it was just punishment.
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No, it were Congolese girls. Koffi was scared when he heard that some musicians wanted form a new band, at that moment Babia Ndonga, Bouro Mpela & Pathy Bass already left and that Sam Tshintu & Modogo also wanted to stay. So he decided to put his money to get them back to Africa by using girls as weapon. Babia Ndonga was spotted by Teka Diamona at Chateaux Rouge who then called immediatly Koffi and Koffi sended those Zulu-gangsters who kipnapped him and brought him to the airport. With Koffi letting him travel with Mamale's passeport, explaining to the police that he couldn't stay in France because of him being a drug addict lol. In meantime he tried to convince Bouro's dad to let Bouro Mpela return to Kinshasa, Bouro accepted, already prepared his luggage and was ready to go back, but then on the last minute Dolce Somono made change his mind. Then Koffi sent Landu Bayaka and her friends to seduce Sam & Modogo to have some fun and they went to a restaurant at Chateaux Rouge and boom they saw Koff there They couldn't ran away anymore and were forced to return with him hahahahahaha. Almost the whole band went back to Africa (except Lebou, Somono & Bouro) along with new-member JF Ifonge and they performed then in Zimbabwe and Tanzania. Then when they were about to return to Kinshasa for their concert at Stade des Martyrs, Sam Tshintu & Modogo succeed by returning to Paris, by asking to Kayembe Chez Ntemba (who didn't know about their plans) their passeports and Somono in Paris having bought those tickets. That's why they called it Operation Renard when they formed Academia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQaogG0tE9c&t=4303s
Academia wanted to have Mboshi Lipassa also with them, who then returned with Koffi to Kinshasa. Knowing Koffi's character, they said that Mboshi would join them (which was wasn't true) and it made Koffi furious. Who from then decided to ignore Mboshi and humilating him during rehearsals by CNN letting doing his animations. So Mboshi decided to leave, then Koffi discovered that it was fack, but it was already to late. He tried to convince Mboshi to comeback, but he didn't want to accept the offer and only perform at Grand Hotel. After that Jhymmhy Mukelenge (who used to be Academia's manager before signing with Secteur A) helped him by going back to Paris where he joined Academia, which was wasn't easy (Koffi trying to block him in Kinshasa trought his connections).
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No, it were Congolese girls. Koffi was scared when he heard that some musicians wanted form a new band, at that moment Babia Ndonga, Bouro Mpela & Pathy Bass already left and that Sam Tshintu & Modogo also wanted to stay. So he decided to put his money to get them back to Africa by using girls as weapon. Babia Ndonga was spotted by Teka Diamona at Chateaux Rouge who then called immediatly Koffi and Koffi sended those Zulu-gangsters who kipnapped him and brought him to the airport. With Koffi letting him travel with Mamale's passeport, explaining to the police that he couldn't stay in France because of him being a drug addict lol. In meantime he tried to convince Bouro's dad to let Bouro Mpela return to Kinshasa, Bouro accepted, already prepared his luggage and was ready to go back, but then on the last minute Dolce Somono made change his mind. Then Koffi sent Landu Bayaka and her friends to seduce Sam & Modogo to have some fun and they went to a restaurant at Chateaux Rouge and boom they saw Koff there They couldn't ran away anymore and were forced to return with him hahahahahaha. Almost the whole band went back to Africa (except Lebou, Somono & Bouro) along with new-member JF Ifonge and they performed then in Zimbabwe and Tanzania. Then when they were about to return to Kinshasa for their concert at Stade des Martyrs, Sam Tshintu & Modogo succeed by returning to Paris, by asking to Kayembe Chez Ntemba (who didn't know about their plans) their passeports and Somono in Paris having bought those tickets. That's why they called it Operation Renard when they formed Academia.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQaogG0tE9c&t=4303s
Academia wanted to have Mboshi Lipassa also with them, who then returned with Koffi to Kinshasa. Knowing Koffi's character, they said that Mboshi would join them (which was wasn't true) and it made Koffi furious. Who from then decided to ignore Mboshi and humilating him during rehearsals by CNN letting doing his animations. So Mboshi decided to leave, then Koffi discovered that it was fack, but it was already to late. He tried to convince Mboshi to comeback, but he didn't want to accept the offer and only perform at Grand Hotel. After that Jhymmhy Mukelenge (who used to be Academia's manager before signing with Secteur A) helped him by going back to Paris where he joined Academia, which was wasn't easy (Koffi trying to block him in Kinshasa trought his connections).
Haha that 98 tour sounds like a movie. Man I wonder how Babia's life and career would've been like if he joined academia, no wonder why koffi didn't take him for bercy but I thought it was Babia that informed koffi of academia happening. I'd have loved to have seen sam and modogo's face when they saw koffi at the restaurant hahahahaha
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Yeah, he was the first one to inform Koffi and that was a long time before all those problems. It was before Zenith, but Koffi wasn't taking him serious. Babia didn't have plans to join Academia. But he left come to concerts anymore, just to spent times with his new girlfriend (who promised to marry) and his "friends' of N'djili in Paris. Back in 1994 he also left just because a girl, but he decided then to rejoin Quartier Latin after that he was beaten by guys, because that woman was married.
Koffi didn't take him to Bercy, because he started to behave strange because of his drugs-addiction. So he prefered to take Eric Tutsi and Musthapha who were then giving the 100% in rehearsals. After the creation of Academia, Koffi bought all those QL-members who participated to that tour cars, but Babia started then to sell parts of his car one by one just to buy drugs.
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i think i have never seen koffi shout out his musicians as much as in this concert,maybe he sensed something without knowing how hard it would be?
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Archos, mvuluzi were you surprise to see Koffi left Babia behind for Bercy ? I heard that he was also the fact he was rude/arrogant to everybody
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For me not,they already left him behind in 1997. But I found it shocking that Popolipo & Do Akongo were left behind.
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For me not,they already left him behind in 1997. But I found it shocking that Popolipo & Do Akongo were left behind.
I think the whole academia situation made koffi suspicious & paranoid. It’s look like he would get rid off all the old heads & make a new ql.
In this concert I also remark that he shout out a lot the members, look like he saw that coming.
But correct me if im wrong, they all quit because of depitcho/because they were low paid?
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It's a little bit complicated. Alot weren't liking the way Koffi was praising and prefering Depitcho above them, but he wasn't really the main reason that Academia was formed. Everybody had his own reason to leave Quartier Latin. Btw there was a plan to form Academia in Burkina Faso when they were on tour in Africa to promote Loi, but they changed their mind because of the climate lol. Guys like Lebou, Somono & Suzuki (who was left behind in Kenya) had personal problems with Koffi. Pathy Bass was not liking the way Koffi was prefering Binda Bass about him, then also his fight with Nseka which made him not returning to Kinshasa and moving to Amsterdam while his family in Matonge & his girlfriend were waiting for him. Sam Tshintu hadn't the intention to leave, because he was happy with his role as Chef d'Orchestre, but changed his mind when he caught Depitcho & Koffi talking about how firing him with shortly after that his family in Binza calling him that they were seeing new musicians rehearsing at Maman Amy's house and his wife also being pregnant. So he decided to stay in Paris, but the trap made him being forced to return to Africa before rejoining Academia. Bouro Mpela wasn't happy the way Koffi wasn't praising him like in past and the way in his opinion Koffi was prefering Depitcho above him, that's why he decided to leave and live with his parents in Antwerp. Koffi tried to short the problems out with his dad and Bouro also accepted, but then changed his mind on the last minute. After that he talked in Kinshasa about that with Alain Mpela. Modogo left also because of those rumors of musicians being recruited and also the payment, because they started to get alot of reponsibilities. The rest (Do Akongo, Popolipo, Mamale, etc) wanted also to leave because of their reponsibilities growing, the payment (having spent all the money) and being also pissed off the way Koffi cancelled the USA/Canada-tour on the last minute (thinking that they would get the last money from their). But they changed their mind because not believing in the Academia-project and not wanting to do those little jobs in Europe.
I'm wondering if Koffi would fill Stade des Martyrs if the whole squad of Olympia was around. Because guys like Sam Tshintu & Lebou Kabuya had fanclubs and were presenting their area/quarter and the interview Academia made with Zacharie Bababaswe made alot of people in Kinshasa have sympathy for them and turning their back to Koffi (who already created alot of controversy by dissing Nyoka Longo & Papa Wemba in interviews after the succes of Zenith & Olympia) with big journalists starting to write articles against him which made him the most hated musician of Kinshasa.
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@mvulusi96
How much were the members of Quartier Latin getting paid in those days? What other responsibilties did Modogo, Akongo, Popolipo, Mamale and others want that Koffi was not giving them?
Koffi never had respect for his instrumentalist. How could Binda Bass last so long with the band when you had Pathy Bass, Clovis Silawuka, Rocky Blandchard, and Montigia Tunga at your side?
He did the same thing to Mbetenge Domingo. He created the partitions to Danger de Mort, but why was he left behind in Kinshasa during the recording process in Europe? As much as I respect Felly Tyson, he interpreted those parts lazily on Mondoungou and Martens.
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@mvulusi96
How much were the members of Quartier Latin getting paid in those days? What other responsibilties did Modogo, Akongo, Popolipo, Mamale and others want that Koffi was not giving them?
Koffi never had respect for his instrumentalist. How could Binda Bass last so long with the band when you had Pathy Bass, Clovis Silawuka, Rocky Blandchard, and Montigia Tunga at your side?
He did the same thing to Mbetenge Domingo. He created the partitions to Danger de Mort, but why was he left behind in Kinshasa during the recording process in Europe? As much as I respect Felly Tyson, he interpreted those parts lazily on Mondoungou and Martens.
just 300 dollars during Europe-tours and 100 when they were in Kinshasa. Popolipo, Do Akongo, Modogo, etc. had already children and it very hard to live with that, especially when familymembers know that you go often to Europe (thinking that Europe is a paradise) and people finding it strange that you live in a small house with all the fame you have. I also forgot to add that they wanted to get all mercedes-cars as gift when Koffi asked them what he could buy for them for all the things they did for him at Zenith & Olympia, as reacting against those of Wenge BCBG, but Koffi refused.
Motingia Tunga didn't spent alot of time in Quartier Latin, he just spent 2 months or something like that. He left because Koffi prefered Pathy Bass to participate to play bass on the Loi-album, since that he wasn't able to manageKoffi's and QL songs despite being seen as one of the two best bassplayers of Congo at that era. Something that Koffi doesn't like, Koffi only likes people who give their 100% thats why guys like Babia Ndonga, Eric Tutsi, Willy Bula were often left behind durings tours of Europe and Africa. Because of Koffi seeing Blanchard as his son, he started do everything that he wanted like sleeping with girldancers, coming late to rehearsalsand other thing was that he wasn't really strong on the spiritual level when the concurrence became strong for that position (5 bass-players). Binda Bass was just doing his thing and always listening to the orders of Koffi, that why he and Felly Tyson lasted very long compared to Lebou Kabuya, Champion Djikapela & Rocky Blanchard.
It was a strategic move, Koffi knew that Quartier Latin could split in Europe during that tour with those tensions and he didn't want to lose Mbentenge, knowing that he could contribute alot on the artistic field after a possible departure of Fally, Ferre, Felly, Titina, etc. which also happended. Marents is a song credited to Felly Tyson lol. He already played lead on the original version and corrected it in Europe.
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@mvulusi96
If Babia never got involved with drugs, would it have made a difference in his career? That response from the crowd when he danced in the video was more than enough to ensure his appearance at Bercy, but he almost settled in Europe because of a woman back in the Magie days. I'm not sure if he would be around for the final Quartier Latin line-up we had for Effrakata and onward.
https://youtu.be/_vBckhbcfgg
Quartier Latin Academia could have had a long, but they should of released their Viagra before Werrason and JB Mpiana.
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Maybe, before going to jail. He wasn’t using drugs, smoking and drinking alcohol. But when he was released from prison he started to team up with wrong people in Paris and became addicted. I think that Koffi was dissapointed in him, when he discovered that.
Lol, then again not showing up to concerts weeks long and acting strange after using drugs. Those things piss Koffi off. It was a good choice from Koffi to prefer Eric & Mustapha above him.
Babia could have been on Effrakata, but Koffi left him again behind. Because he wasn’t showing up during concerts and rehearshala and became more addicted to drugs. It was a bad choice of him to rejoin Quartier Latin after having joined Academia for a moment, just because of Koffi sending guys to him and giving some new clothes. He sended the same guys to Popolipo, Do Akongo, Ondoma Motema& Rocky Blanchard. But Do Akongo & Popolipo were smart engough to not accept the offer, only Rocky Blanchard (making the same mistake like in 1998) & Ondoma Motema accepted it. Both guys ended by staying again behind in Kinshasa.
Even if Viagra would have been a huge succes, Academia split because there were already big conflicts between Lebou & Sam. With rivals behind the scenes snitching them for the ngulu-affaire. Maybe that Somono’s interview in 2002 after leaving made those problems coming faster. Because he openly said that on tv, that Sam and co were making money of it on one of those rare VHS.
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In that Germany concert I cannot finish watching Bouro's dancing part.I've repeated it a countless times.Look how Somono and the danser who is seated near the drummer are wathing him in awe.
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Ya Mvulusi96, you must have been one of the admins at QL at one point or rather you must have been one of the 'guys' sent by Koffi to convince musicians to rejoin QL.
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lol, no. But I was close to some who were in his staff, donors and some of his girls.
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Wow just watch Bouro's dancing part.I've just watched it countless times.This guy is a master dancer .I wonder between his brother and him who is better than the other.
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Wow just watch Bouro's dancing part.I've just watched it countless times.This guy is a master dancer .I wonder between his brother and him who is better than the other.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZpXDwnZm67A
watch this video and judge. I remember Alain Mpela once joking in Naty Lokole's or Papy Mboma's interview that Bouro Mpela isn't a better than him. Adding that what Bouro Mpela does isn't dancing but acrobatics hahahaha
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@mvulusi96
Both brothers should have continued on as a duo act, because going back to Quartier Latin ruined Bouro's career.
Why did they split? The album was so good!
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They didn't really form a real duo like Les Freres Soki. It was Moovison who came with project. He was about to produce Alain Mpela's first solo album Feuille de Route, but wasn't sure if it would succeed since that his EP Intifada wasn't well received. On the other side he was about to produce Bouro Mpela (who then just left Quartier Latin) first album Vice de Procedure, but he was also with not sure if that album would succeed. So he asked Alain Mpela, if he could record a duo-album together with his little brother Bouro Mpela and he accepted. They started then to record Mortel Combat with Alain Mpela's band Generation A in Kinshasa and a part in Europe with arranger/guitarist Alain Makaba. Then when the album was finished they didn't go back to Kinshasa to do the promotion, because Moovison want didn't give them the money to promote the album their since that he knew that he wouldn't get that money back because of the huge piracy there. So a conflict started, that's also why the album flopped. Moovinson prefered to promote the album in Brasil, Colombia, Suriname, Cuba with songs like Rumba Kongo, Aicha, etc. (I heard Rumba Congo 3 times on the Latin Radio back in 2007). So after spending almost a year in Europe, Bouro Mpela received an offer from Koffi Olomide to rejoin Quartier Latin, knowing that one of the two F's would leave soon (Ferre & Fally). Bouro Mpela accepted the offer which made Bouro's parents, his own family and Alain Mpela furious with Bouro's parents even cursing. That's why the Mortel Combat-project stopped, but back in 2008 or 2009, I don't remember they toured with Alain Mpela in the USA and made some playbacks in New York and were also the first Congolese artists to perform Las Vegas (Maybe they lied lol, because they are from the Wenge-Generation).
Yes, rejoining Quartier Latin ruined Bouro's career. He finished his own career for doing that and from then people weren't taking him serious anymore. While if he would record Vice de Procedure staight away then think that he would succeed with G5-revolution already starting with Fally and Bill Clinton (in Kinshasa). In the Mortel Combat-DVD they were already promoting Vice de Procedure. After leaving Quartier Latin against after 7 months, the press and himself announced that Vice de Procedure would be produced by David Monsoh's label Obouo Music, but I don't know what went wrong. Maybe Fally wasn't happy with that and did everything to get him out. Then after that Bouro Mpela was about to sign with a recordlabel, but that label received threats and alot of letters (hahahaha that must be Koffi), so they refused to produced Bouro Mpela. Which made him sign with Le Duo d'Enfer (Papy Mukiadi & Adrien Mukiadi), the guys who produced Temps Present "Mayi Ya Sika", but that album wasn't well promoted and flopped very hard. While it had very good songs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dedPmmi1t3Y
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdX4OcFW5xA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQekNDOx0CQ
That attack towards Koffi kills me in Ecole d'Amour kills me, he did it also in the Mortel Combat hahahaha. "Et puis ozo continuer koloba que nga nazela, dit en tant que qui, pourquoi et de quel droit" Those 3th and 4th generation bandleaders were sick and killed many careers.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_9MoXl4cqYE
the generique with Thierry Mogratana, the female drummer (i forgot her name) and Michel Bass.