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Title: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Mukulu on April 07, 2020, 19:22
For me :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPu3sqYMZBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkx2Y2YMthA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVh4gF2-HXo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_WWAQwQdjM

Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Manzambi94 on April 07, 2020, 19:25
For me :

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cPu3sqYMZBI

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hkx2Y2YMthA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CVh4gF2-HXo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_WWAQwQdjM


I disagree. Primus generique and Satellite were solid generique, Bercy generique is disappointed, he probably doesn't have a good hear
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 07, 2020, 19:32
I liked Changement de Frequence and Bazonkion made people dance (the last days of Wemba's succes). I also used to like Satelite+2

For me the worst generica are Kaka Yo of Papa Wemba (there wasn't a cohesion of the way Wemba was doing mabanga with the animations and the transitions of the sebene), followed by Bendele of Koffi Olomide (I didn't get the first two minutes, it sounded really chaotic).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvQCVCeyVWM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTdW-4iGf88
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: BercysFinest98 on April 07, 2020, 19:42
I liked Changement de Frequence and Bazonkion made people dance (the last days of Wemba's succes). I also used to like Satelite+2

For me the worst generica are Kaka Yo of Papa Wemba (there wasn't a cohesion of the way Wemba was doing mabanga with the animations and the transitions of the sebene), followed by Bendele of Koffi Olomide (I didn't get the first two minutes, it sounded really chaotic).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvQCVCeyVWM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTdW-4iGf88

I want everyone to take one shot of alcohol for the fact that @Mfumu Vata mentioned Bendele! Because honestly, there was no direction for that Générique at all! When I first got the album, I was expecting BLA BLA BLA to be in the first track at least!
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Matebu on April 07, 2020, 19:53
Kiekie, first thing on my mind was Bendele. What a sh*tshhow of noise
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: SLK97 on April 07, 2020, 20:15
I liked Changement de Frequence and Bazonkion made people dance (the last days of Wemba's succes). I also used to like Satelite+2

For me the worst generica are Kaka Yo of Papa Wemba (there wasn't a cohesion of the way Wemba was doing mabanga with the animations and the transitions of the sebene), followed by Bendele of Koffi Olomide (I didn't get the first two minutes, it sounded really chaotic).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BvQCVCeyVWM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KTdW-4iGf88

I want everyone to take one shot of alcohol for the fact that @Mfumu Vata mentioned Bendele! Because honestly, there was no direction for that Générique at all! When I first got the album, I was expecting BLA BLA BLA to be in the first track at least!

Honestly, Koffi putting Bendele as the last track on the album shows how much confidence he had in that particular song.
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Manzambi94 on April 07, 2020, 20:19
To me the worst generique I have ever heard is Mutshi whatever it is called

https://youtu.be/r06OsBys_24

And majority of Ferre's generique


https://youtu.be/WakLomI0ucY

https://youtu.be/XNRAGNRC32U

https://youtu.be/DkAB3f_0kJ8


I think Ferre just needs to do generique on his own or make traditional songs for example Tshiluba is an outstanding song, and the feat with Caludji was so fire

https://youtu.be/BM9CqNoWCo0

https://youtu.be/YOv-6SwR7fo

Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Mukulu on April 07, 2020, 20:23
Changement de fréquence disappointed me so much at the time, it was the Skol Vs Primus war.  Jb had just released Bongolowayi and Wazekwa had just released Primus ngwassa especially since we had just had Tindika Lokito and alerte générale.  it is not for nothing that werra did sous sol very quickly.


in concert, bazonkion had a bright future especially after nkila mogrosso ... but papa wemba's dedications were very noisy ... already in somo trop, i find that he spoiled the work with his "FLEURY MEROGIIIIS" and others.  I forgot Bendele!  especially that bla bla bla made the buzz, I remember on msn, everyone had this song ... la chicote and Skol Mandradamada were horrible, he had tried to copy DJ ZEMBE etc.


Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: BercysFinest98 on April 07, 2020, 20:24
I wasn't a fan of Papa Wemba's very last Générique "Araignée" I didn't get a good vibe from it. It just didn't sound like "Papa Wemba" to me
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: BercysFinest98 on April 07, 2020, 20:25
Changement de fréquence disappointed me so much at the time, it was the Skol Vs Primus war.  Jb had just released Bongolowayi and Wazekwa had just released Primus ngwassa especially since we had just had Tindika Lokito and alerte générale.  it is not for nothing that werra did sous sol very quickly.


in concert, bazonkion had a bright future especially after nkila mogrosso ... but papa wemba's dedications were very noisy ... already in somo trop, i find that he spoiled the work with his "FLEURY MEROGIIIIS" and others.  I forgot Bendele!  especially that bla bla bla made the buzz, I remember on msn, everyone had this song ... la chicote and Skol Mandradamada were horrible, he had tried to copy DJ ZEMBE etc.

Chicotte a papa was definitely trash...
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Mukulu on April 07, 2020, 20:27
To me the worst generique I have ever heard is Mutshi whatever it is called

https://youtu.be/r06OsBys_24

And majority of Ferre's generique


https://youtu.be/WakLomI0ucY

https://youtu.be/XNRAGNRC32U

https://youtu.be/DkAB3f_0kJ8

I disagree, i liked kibombanda, kunzardo did a great work

otherwise I think it's not extraordinary these generiques, he does not take generics seriously
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: SLK97 on April 07, 2020, 20:29
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5GwxKs3yTA

Heard it once, felt like a mess, never heard it again.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQQtDKbGKRI

I was wondering when it would take off. Instead, this whole generique was left on autopilot.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3xa_Pp8cpA

Yes, this was a hit back in the days. Yes, they played it almost every party my parents went to. Personally, it just wasn't my taste. Just when it got going, it slowed down and I was wondering when the 'Doukou Doukou' part would end. If it would end. At least it wasn't as big a mess as Mandramada.
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Mukulu on April 07, 2020, 20:31
I wasn't a fan of Papa Wemba's very last Générique "Araignée" I didn't get a good vibe from it. It just didn't sound like "Papa Wemba" to me

papa wemba hated sebenes...he made ndombolo from fula ngenge...  he said there were two zaiko ... the zaiko of his days and zaiko mamé mamé (ngwasuma sur ngwasuma), when ndombolo came out, he said that he would never dance this dance, it's for the monkeys ????????????
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Mfumu Vata on April 07, 2020, 20:34
Changement de fréquence disappointed me so much at the time, it was the Skol Vs Primus war.  Jb had just released Bongolowayi and Wazekwa had just released Primus ngwassa especially since we had just had Tindika Lokito and alerte générale.  it is not for nothing that werra did sous sol very quickly.


in concert, bazonkion had a bright future especially after nkila mogrosso ... but papa wemba's dedications were very noisy ... already in somo trop, i find that he spoiled the work with his "FLEURY MEROGIIIIS" and others.  I forgot Bendele!  especially that bla bla bla made the buzz, I remember on msn, everyone had this song ... la chicote and Skol Mandradamada were horrible, he had tried to copy DJ ZEMBE etc.

Sous Soul came in December 2006 and Changement de Frequence came in August 2005. Werrason released Sous Soul because Bralima wanted a generique dedicated to them for christmas and new year, it had nothing to do with Changement de Frequence. Changement de Frequence was released in the same period like Bongolowayi of JB. Primus Ngwassa of Wazkewa was in 2004.

Werrason didn't want WMM to use all their energy in Changement de Frequence, because they were still working on Temoignage. That's why he used to call "Changement de Frequence" photo sans flash. In the same generique he said (ezalaki nango mise en  scene) to refer to it.
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: BercysFinest98 on April 07, 2020, 20:34
I wasn't a fan of Papa Wemba's very last Générique "Araignée" I didn't get a good vibe from it. It just didn't sound like "Papa Wemba" to me

papa wemba hated sebenes...he made ndombolo from fula ngenge...  he said there were two zaiko ... the zaiko of his days and zaiko mamé mamé (ngwasuma sur ngwasuma), when ndombolo came out, he said that he would never dance this dance, it's for the monkeys ????????????

I'd say that the top Ndombolo songs from him were, Fula Ngenge, Kolo Histoire and Somo Trop!
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Mukulu on April 07, 2020, 20:35

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3xa_Pp8cpA

Yes, this was a hit back in the days. Yes, they played it almost every party my parents went to. Personally, it just wasn't my taste. Just when it got going, it slowed down and I was wondering when the 'Doukou Doukou' part would end. If it would end. At least it wasn't as big a mess as Mandramada.

I think there was a version with equalizer I do not know if it was this generic or the generic of cindy ... the générique of koffi (2010-2015) are all alike.
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Matebu on April 07, 2020, 23:42

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j3xa_Pp8cpA

Yes, this was a hit back in the days. Yes, they played it almost every party my parents went to. Personally, it just wasn't my taste. Just when it got going, it slowed down and I was wondering when the 'Doukou Doukou' part would end. If it would end. At least it wasn't as big a mess as Mandramada.



I think there was a version with equalizer I do not know if it was this generic or the generic of cindy ... the générique of koffi (2010-2015) are all alike.

Yup, especially every générique when it gets to the part where Cindy as atalakou

I still haven’t listened to Abracadabra or 13ème Apôtre in full after all these years; just can’t bring myself to do it. Maybe if my life was ever on the line if I didn’t listen to it then I would.
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Matebu on April 07, 2020, 23:44
@Manzambi ; I definitely agree with you that most of Ferre’s génériques are trash - cheap sound, forgettable animations, monotonous partitions, etc.

 I don’t rate him at all when it comes to génériques. I’d be fine if he abandons it all together on albums and just gets into rhumba, where he’s a master
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: BercysFinest98 on April 07, 2020, 23:52
I have never ever considered Ferre to be a générique kind of guy to be honest
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Mukulu on April 07, 2020, 23:59
I wasn't a fan of Papa Wemba's very last Générique "Araignée" I didn't get a good vibe from it. It just didn't sound like "Papa Wemba" to me

papa wemba hated sebenes...he made ndombolo from fula ngenge...  he said there were two zaiko ... the zaiko of his days and zaiko mamé mamé (ngwasuma sur ngwasuma), when ndombolo came out, he said that he would never dance this dance, it's for the monkeys ????????????

I'd say that the top Ndombolo songs from him were, Fula Ngenge, Kolo Histoire and Somo Trop!

Yes!!! I loved this songs ! Mogratana Doe and Alpa on fire
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: CM PRINCE on April 08, 2020, 00:13
I have never ever considered Ferre to be a générique kind of guy to be honest
He was in the beginning but it was after QEDT he started falling off when it comes to Generiques with the exception of Seben. I blame Marchouse and Charly solo.
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Seben_Maniac on April 08, 2020, 00:55
I kinda like the 2nd abracadabra generique until cindy comes in and ruins it at the end. I might go ahead and edit that part out so I can fully enjoy it lol

Also ferre gola's generiques sounded a lot better when he performed them with extended sebene in concerts from 2008-2013-ish
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Congomusiclover001 on April 08, 2020, 06:14
No worst Fally Generiques? All Fally's generiques are drawn out with very monotonous animations (at least the last generiques). He has good atalakous, just doesn't use them well

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q74CT0rr9o8

and Ecole, until you get to the leg dance, is straight boring...I suspect people will just fast forward to that part.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WT5DR86mcs

All libre parcours generiques are good
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: jax on April 08, 2020, 06:35
 :D :D :D  Changement de Frequence shouldnt be anywhere near that list.., its is a fire generique
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Manzambi94 on April 08, 2020, 14:30
:D :D :D  Changement de Frequence shouldnt be anywhere near that list.., its is a fire generique


I agree people say is tras simple because like Ecole in Satellite, Lalaka Boye and Atterrisage were not sponsorized
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Manzambi94 on April 08, 2020, 14:33
@Manzambi ; I definitely agree with you that most of Ferre’s génériques are trash - cheap sound, forgettable animations, monotonous partitions, etc.

 I don’t rate him at all when it comes to génériques. I’d be fine if he abandons it all together on albums and just gets into rhumba, where he’s a master

To be honest there was a time where Ferre was making fire generique for example in Sens Interdit the generique was fire don't know what happened


https://youtu.be/QmAjiLHqU_Q
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: Matebu on April 08, 2020, 15:28
@Manzambi ; I definitely agree with you that most of Ferre’s génériques are trash - cheap sound, forgettable animations, monotonous partitions, etc.

 I don’t rate him at all when it comes to génériques. I’d be fine if he abandons it all together on albums and just gets into rhumba, where he’s a master

To be honest there was a time where Ferre was making fire generique for example in Sens Interdit the generique was fire don't know what happened


https://youtu.be/QmAjiLHqU_Q

Yup, his first générique was so good, then future ones got progressively worse
Title: Re: the worst generic in your opinion
Post by: shamala on April 08, 2020, 17:32
For Ferre I just love this any day....

https://youtu.be/Z9663XDBT1s