Congo Vibes
Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: Matebu on April 14, 2020, 19:46
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After deliberation I will go with - (1st) V12. (2nd) TH and Kibuisa - really a dead heat; love both seminal works equally. (3rd) Droit Chemin. (4th) QEDT. (5th) Prudence
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For me:
1st V12
2th TH
3rd Prudence
4th Kibuisa
5th Droit Chemin
6th. QEDT
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1. Kibuisa Mpimpa
2. V12
3. Prudence
4. T.H.
5. Droit Chemin
6. QEDT
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1. Kibuisa Mpimpa
2. TH
3. V12
4. Prudence
5. Droit Chemin
6. QEDT
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1. Kibuisa Mpimpa
2. V12
3. TH
4. Prudence
5. QEDT
6. Droit Chemin
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1. Prudence
2. V12
3. TH
4. Kibuisa Mpimpa
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1. V12
2. Droit Chemin
3. Qui est derrière toi ?
4. Kibuisa Mpimpa
5. TH
6. Prudence
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1. Kibuisa Mpimpa
2. V12
3. TH
4. QEDT
5. Prudence
6. Droit Chemin
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1) V12
2) Kibuisa
3) TH
4) Droit Chemin
4) Prudence
5) QEDT
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1. Kibuisa 2. Droit chemin 3. V12 4. Prudence 5. TH. 6.QEDT
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mannn this is a tough choice,what about picking a 12 songs (two cd) album wth 2 songs of each of them
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mannn this is a tough choice,what about picking a 12 songs (two cd) album wth 2 songs of each of them
If its only 12 songs :
1. Kibuisa Mpimpa (Kibuisa)
2. Fleur d'amour (Kibuisa)
3. Fouta Djallon (V12)
4. Aspirine (V12)
5. Miss Toutsi (V12)
6. Liputa (Droit Chemin)
7. Associé (Droit Chemin)
8. Attente (Droit Chemin)
9. Maboko Pamba (QEDT)
10. Soke (QEDT)
11. Prudence song (Prudence)
12. TH generique (TH)
(Bonus : 13 ans (V12) and Bambino (V12))
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1 Andrada (V12)
2. Aspirine (V12)
3. Mayase (Prudence)
4. Profitez (Prudence)
5.Kinshasa (TH)
6. Education (TH)
7. Le Grand Monsieur (Kibuisa Mimpa)
8. Le Vent du Soir (Kibuisa Mpimpa)
9. Jao Ndombele (Qui est Derrière Toi)
10. Diki Diki (Qui est Derrière Toi)
11. Prince of Southforck (Droit Chemin)
12 Orgasy (Droit Chemin)
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mannn this is a tough choice,what about picking a 12 songs (two cd) album wth 2 songs of each of them
You sure are making it harder. Anyway, this is the best I've got.
1. Operation Dragon
2. Prudence
3. Jeanpy Pipina
4. Liputa
5. Bambino
6. Le Grand Monsieur
7. Maboko Pamba
8. Attente
9. Aspirine
10. Eclipse
11. Mayase
12. Kinshasa
As you can see, I tried my hardest to make each song flow thematically, like a proper album. I've even got a name for this track list lol: Le Congregation des Stars.
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1) Andrada (V12)
2) Miss toutsi (V12)
3) Tave (Kibuisa)
4) Obiang (Kibuisa)
5) Grace à toi Germain (TH)
6) Kinshasa (TH)
7) Attente (Droit Chemin)
8 ) Associe (Droit Chemin)
9) Mayase (Prudence)
10) Profitez (Prudence)
11) Diki Diki (QEDT)
12) Joan Ndombele (QEDT)
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Tracklist:
1.Operation Dragon
2.Kinshasa
3.Andrada
4. Liputa
5. Maboko Pamba
6. Obiang
7. Rendez vous
8. Joao Ndombele
9.Etat Civil
10. Associe
11. Yves Makamu
12. 48 heures
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I am curious to know which of these albums were recorded in part or fully in Europe? And how many in Kinshasa?
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I am curious to know which of these albums were recorded in part or fully in Europe? And how many in Kinshasa?
All of these albums were recorded in Europe. Only part of QEDT was recorded in Kin.
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I am curious to know which of these albums were recorded in part or fully in Europe? And how many in Kinshasa?
All of these albums were recorded in Europe. Only part of QEDT was recorded in Kin.
yeah.
70% of the Qui est Derriere Toi was recorded in Kinshasa with Ferre Gola bringing it to Europe to mix, doing mabanga and Olivier Tshimanga adding his guitars, Michel Bass correcting and adding some bass-guitar lines, Sec Bidens adding a guitar part in Soke, plus 4 songs being recorded due to demand from donors and guys like Fila Basele & Celezino adding vocals in Diki Diki and Maboko Pamba, but people thinking that Ferre imitated Pepe Kalle's voice in Diki Diki while it was Fila and Wemba's voice in Maboko Pamba while it was Celezino.
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Thanks for that info...Does this actually bring back the same 'polemique' (if you call it) that it is actually better to record in Europe than in Kin. Correct me if I am wrong but I feel like albums recorded in Kin lack depth...All those albums mentioned have a rounded sound, and I feel like that is real Congolese Rumba music. (Except Fally's album in my humble opinion)
You simply can compare the albums of Koffi or Werra that were recorded in Kin vs in Europe.
The above mentioned albums are wonderful and I just wish today we had albums of the same caliber...I guess we have to wait and wait....
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That's because most albums who were recorded in Kinshasa from the mid 80s you hadn't modern studios in Kinshasa with artists prefering to record in Europe or in Brazzaville at the modern studio IAD. Later on from 2003 when it started to get hard to get visa's, artists started to record their albums in Kinshasa (Somo Trop, B.E.K., Kipe Ya Yo, Quel Est Ton Probleme, Danger de Mort, Anti Terro, Alerte Generale, etc.) with mobile-studios coming from Europe. Most albums were then not really recorded with strong determination or motivation, because the competiton wasn't that high anymore like before 2003, because they couldn't do something better than the golden years of 1998-2003, with also the fact that they not more recording next to their fans/groupies/grand preters in Europe, who were giving them money when record plus the deception of not getting visa's and the bad conditions in Kinshasa (the electricity always falling out or recording with a "group electrogene").
But about QEDT, I think that the album would have been better if it had just 12 songs. Picking only Soke, Diki Diki, Jao Ndombele, Zazou, 3eme Doigt, Maboko Pamba, 12 Heures, Kamasutra, Je t'attends, Bequille, Andy Mputu and the first generic.
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I am curious to know which of these albums were recorded in part or fully in Europe? And how many in Kinshasa?
All of these albums were recorded in Europe. Only part of QEDT was recorded in Kin.
yeah.
70% of the Qui est Derriere Toi was recorded in Kinshasa with Ferre Gola bringing it to Europe to mix, doing mabanga and Olivier Tshimanga adding his guitars, Michel Bass correcting and adding some bass-guitar lines, Sec Bidens adding a guitar part in Soke, plus 4 songs being recorded due to demand from donors and guys like Fila Basele & Celezino adding vocals in Diki Diki and Maboko Pamba, but people thinking that Ferre imitated Pepe Kalle's voice in Diki Diki while it was Fila and Wemba's voice in Maboko Pamba while it was Celezino.
Which vocal Celezino did in Maboko Pamba ?
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Defao's Salanoki and Copinage albums were of good quality compare to Force D' Intervention Rapide, and they were all recorded at Ndiaye studios. why? poor arrangement or what?
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I am curious to know which of these albums were recorded in part or fully in Europe? And how many in Kinshasa?
All of these albums were recorded in Europe. Only part of QEDT was recorded in Kin.
yeah.
70% of the Qui est Derriere Toi was recorded in Kinshasa with Ferre Gola bringing it to Europe to mix, doing mabanga and Olivier Tshimanga adding his guitars, Michel Bass correcting and adding some bass-guitar lines, Sec Bidens adding a guitar part in Soke, plus 4 songs being recorded due to demand from donors and guys like Fila Basele & Celezino adding vocals in Diki Diki and Maboko Pamba, but people thinking that Ferre imitated Pepe Kalle's voice in Diki Diki while it was Fila and Wemba's voice in Maboko Pamba while it was Celezino.
Which vocal Celezino did in Maboko Pamba ?
bakangi nga na boloko mama
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Thank you bro but why Ferré made him sing just that part and didn't sing it himself ? Because he sing 99% of the song
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After deliberation I will go with - (1st) V12. (2nd) TH and Kibuisa - really a dead heat; love both seminal works equally. (3rd) Droit Chemin. (4th) QEDT. (5th) Prudence
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1. V12
2. Kibuisa
3. Droit Chemin (the impact that album had was crazy)
4. QEDT
5. TH
6. Prudence
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I am curious to know which of these albums were recorded in part or fully in Europe? And how many in Kinshasa?
All of these albums were recorded in Europe. Only part of QEDT was recorded in Kin.
yeah.
70% of the Qui est Derriere Toi was recorded in Kinshasa with Ferre Gola bringing it to Europe to mix, doing mabanga and Olivier Tshimanga adding his guitars, Michel Bass correcting and adding some bass-guitar lines, Sec Bidens adding a guitar part in Soke, plus 4 songs being recorded due to demand from donors and guys like Fila Basele & Celezino adding vocals in Diki Diki and Maboko Pamba, but people thinking that Ferre imitated Pepe Kalle's voice in Diki Diki while it was Fila and Wemba's voice in Maboko Pamba while it was Celezino.
I thought it was Ferre imitating Papa Wemba I am shocked to know that it wasn't actually Ferre
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Thank you bro but why Ferré made him sing just that part and didn't sing it himself ? Because he sing 99% of the song
I don't maybe he coudn't the high notes that day in the studio or he wanted just to thank him for having participated to the song by giving him one vocal in the song. There are multiple songs in the Congolese music-history where there were just one vocal from a session-singer or bandmember.
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Defao's Salanoki and Copinage albums were of good quality compare to Force D' Intervention Rapide, and they were all recorded at Ndiaye studios. why? poor arrangement or what?
mwa I don't really see a big difference between Defao's albums Sala Noki & Copinage and Intervention Rapide of Wenge. Its just the sound of snare-sound of drums who is really high. But I think that they did that to let the kra-kra-kra paritions of Kakol being audible.
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I am curious to know which of these albums were recorded in part or fully in Europe? And how many in Kinshasa?
All of these albums were recorded in Europe. Only part of QEDT was recorded in Kin.
yeah.
70% of the Qui est Derriere Toi was recorded in Kinshasa with Ferre Gola bringing it to Europe to mix, doing mabanga and Olivier Tshimanga adding his guitars, Michel Bass correcting and adding some bass-guitar lines, Sec Bidens adding a guitar part in Soke, plus 4 songs being recorded due to demand from donors and guys like Fila Basele & Celezino adding vocals in Diki Diki and Maboko Pamba, but people thinking that Ferre imitated Pepe Kalle's voice in Diki Diki while it was Fila and Wemba's voice in Maboko Pamba while it was Celezino.
https://youtu.be/dHGUWGybp4Y
Who is the mulatto guys on the 4:28 minutes? And who are all those guys holding their head?