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Music => Congolese Music => Topic started by: shamala on May 02, 2015, 05:43

Title: FOR GUITAR PLAYERS OR THE KNOWLEDGEABLE
Post by: shamala on May 02, 2015, 05:43
What is this "deuxieme ciseme" (directly from pronouciation spelling may be wrong) that soloists are told when showcasing their partitions...saw it when wiliiam asks Tolbert and Werra asks Kimbangu during his audition.
Educate me on why the soloist are asked to play "deuxieme ciseme"
Title: Re: FOR GUITAR PLAYERS OR THE KNOWLEDGEABLE
Post by: Mr T on May 02, 2015, 09:04
"Deuxième sixième" translates as "second sixth". They probably talked about a sixth (interval) that is played second.
Title: Re: FOR GUITAR PLAYERS OR THE KNOWLEDGEABLE
Post by: shamala on May 02, 2015, 09:06
"Deuxième sixième" translates as "second sixth". They probably talked about a sixth (interval) that is played second.

aaha Mr T please explain some more....
Title: Re: FOR GUITAR PLAYERS OR THE KNOWLEDGEABLE
Post by: Mr T on May 02, 2015, 10:13
An interval is the distance between two notes and a sixth the distance between the first and sixth tone. Or 8 or 9 semitones (frets on guitar).

On guitar you can produce a sixth like G-E by playing G on the open G string, followed by an E on the 9th fret. As the notes are played successively, this is called a melodic interval.

When you play two notes at the same time, it's called an harmonic interval. You can produce the same G-E as an harmonic sixth by picking the open G and top E string simultaneously.

Picking these two strings at the same time, you can play a succession of harmonic sixths such as G-E, A-F, B-G, C-A. In which case you would refer to A-F as the second sixth.
Title: Re: FOR GUITAR PLAYERS OR THE KNOWLEDGEABLE
Post by: shamala on May 02, 2015, 10:32
An interval is the distance between two notes and a sixth the distance between the first and sixth tone. Or 8 or 9 semitones (frets on guitar).

On guitar you can produce a sixth like G-E by playing G on the open G string, followed by an E on the 9th fret. As the notes are played successively, this is called a melodic interval.

When you play two notes at the same time, it's called an harmonic interval. You can produce the same G-E as an harmonic sixth by picking the open G and top E string simultaneously.

Picking these two strings at the same time, you can play a succession of harmonic sixths such as G-E, A-F, B-G, C-A. In which case you would refer to A-F as the second sixth.

thanks alot ..is there a special reason they ak them to play "deuxieme sixieme"?
Title: Re: FOR GUITAR PLAYERS OR THE KNOWLEDGEABLE
Post by: archos on May 02, 2015, 11:22
i think what shamala is talking about is "deuxieme systeme" as to say to the soloist to propose something different now
Title: Re: FOR GUITAR PLAYERS OR THE KNOWLEDGEABLE
Post by: Mr T on May 02, 2015, 11:51
i think what shamala is talking about is "deuxieme systeme" as to say to the soloist to propose something different now
Never seen the video but "deuxieme systeme" makes more sense. When you talk about intervals, the French word for a sixth is not sixieme but sixte.
Title: Re: FOR GUITAR PLAYERS OR THE KNOWLEDGEABLE
Post by: shamala on May 02, 2015, 15:15
i think what shamala is talking about is "deuxieme systeme" as to say to the soloist to propose something different now
Never seen the video but "deuxieme systeme" makes more sense. When you talk about intervals, the French word for a sixth is not sixieme but sixte.

aahh my ignorance
Title: Re: FOR GUITAR PLAYERS OR THE KNOWLEDGEABLE
Post by: SLY PAPA NA KEVIN on May 02, 2015, 18:54
Shamala, you're learning too fast,forget this advanced technical stuff and crack on with the basics like the rest of us first. ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: FOR GUITAR PLAYERS OR THE KNOWLEDGEABLE
Post by: KAISARI on May 02, 2015, 19:37
Nice Thread...humbly scanning through and letting it all sink in...
Title: Re: FOR GUITAR PLAYERS OR THE KNOWLEDGEABLE
Post by: shamala on May 02, 2015, 19:40
Shamala, you're learning to fast,forget this advanced technical stuff and crack on with the basics like the rest of us first. ;D ;D ;D

hehehe i got a teacher. this one i kept hearing it when a soloist is showcasing. "deuxieme ciseme" hehehe..just wondered what it was.