CELEO AND BILL SHOULD HAVE KEPT THIS SHAPE
by archos on 02 Sep, 2024 08:36
I know that we have a tendency to gain weight "without trying" at a certain age for many africans,but i believe they could have stayed close to that if they were disciplined,now both look heavy as hell on stage and make it even worse by always wearing heavy clothes aswell of japanese fashion,these two as a disciplined duo taking a common career seriously could have gone far but instead they chose to be tom and jerry and lazy guys
Reply #1
by Franco Pepe Kalle on 02 Sep, 2024 13:14
100 percent agreement with you. Had they kept their original shape or not gained so much then they could be the same people they were before. But actually Bill Clinton and Celeo Scram are bringing a bit of their old themselves back these days especially Celeo.
Reply #2
by Jdog on 06 Sep, 2024 10:10
I don’t think Bill and Celeo were lazy in their post Maison Mere careers. They both put out good music, had bands and played concerts and Bill even had a sponsor but it just didn’t hailer for them like Fally and Ferre and that’s okay.
I know that we have a tendency to gain weight "without trying" at a certain age for many africans,but i believe they could have stayed close to that if they were disciplined,now both look heavy as hell on stage and make it even worse by always wearing heavy clothes aswell of japanese fashion,these two as a disciplined duo taking a common career seriously could have gone far but instead they chose to be tom and jerry and lazy guys
I disagree, they weren't lazy in their first year they put bangers especially Bill, it is just that at that time leaders weren't so welcoming with their members going solo I think what killed their solo career for Celeo was that stupid beef with Fally they had, with Bill instead waste whole leader thing and also changing labels every year, if they kept a professional stuff behind them they would probably battling Fally and Ferre, about their weights I don't think it is a factor for their success but it was in their voice declined combined with not taking vocal lessons anymore
Reply #4
by archos on 06 Sep, 2024 10:56
i dont mean in their first years guys,proof is that event with flamme was almost towards the middle of their solo careers,i am talking about the recent years,were they are acting like they are 60 and have completed solo career targets and can relax i use the weight factor as an example of their drop of discipline and motivation, both are guys who had part of their fame on their looks/dressing and it clearly changes with the amount of weight they put on even though celeo tries to show the opposite with his stubborn attitude sometimes about them i say to myself if drc was a serious country,they could have somebody like werra still on their back as some sort of external manager maintaining pressure on them and giving them strategies to exploit(like with some other artists,there could have been a structure created by ministry of culture or a private organism for werra and a couple of others guiding young talent) they've clearly let the freedom of leadership completely absorb their hunger and it shows even with their voice,no way on earth a bill under control of prime werra(in terms of being very demanding) would have looked like he could suffocate about 5 times while just performing solola bien which is not even a fast song at arafat's burial,imagine werra was even in that prime of standards literally sending people to drag his musicians on top of a woman just to protect their voice like lacoste before the bercy concert where lacoste was surprised that werra was even aware that he was sleeping one of his sugarmommies and sankara came to drag him off bed,because of how werra was having incredibly tight control on their discipline and was spying them,people like celeo and heritier had countless little suspensions for being spied talking too much with their guys one two days before concerts because they had to rest their chords to be at highest performance,now if both bill and celeo want to chew 3 big macs then sleep with a sidekick minutes before going on stage who has something to say
Reply #5
by Congomusiclover0011 on 10 Sep, 2024 21:57
Is it not possible at all to get this two guys together with WMMM just for night? I mean what will it take? I'm sure people will flood the venue...