Author Topic: Koffi Olomide's disstracks  (Read 11026 times)

mvulusi96 on: June 19, 2016, 23:57

  • Guest

Bokilo To Suki Wapi is a single from 1984 which Koffi made against the father of his then wife Marianne Makosso, who wasn't happy with their mariage. It was recorded in Europe with Papa Wemba after the flop of his first EP Ngounda from 1983. At this time Koffi was looking his succes of 1978-79 back. He song would be later released in 1998 on the Ngounda "special edition" album which had also included the EP Lady Bo from 1984 which had interventions from King Kester Emeneya.


a revanche disstrack


Magie was not distrack, but had a attack against Nyoka Longo who was dating Mobutu's daugter and Moleka's daugter at the same time (from 8:07 min the Elyseee euh !!! part ). This attack made Mobutu's son Kongolo Mobutu 'aka Saddam Hussein' angry, who made this song censored on the tv and radio's for some time in Zaire. Koffi never ever performed that Elysee-Eyanga part in concerts, after the reconcilation with Saddam.


Andrada was a diss-track against Papa Wemba, there are rumours that the conflict started when Wemba wanted to date Rosette Kamono, which made him angry. They reconciled with each after that Nyoka Longa & Manda Mobutu wanted to sue him and Koffi at that time for help from Wemba and some times later he asked him to record a duo-album as sign for there reconcilation. (the Wake-Up album)


This diss-track was made against Manda Mobutu 'aka Maitre Madova' who was Mobutu's son. (from the V12-album)


Rond Point was made against Zaiko, who weren't at time not touring anymore in Europe since 1996. At that time Zaiko was rehearsing and perform every week at Kimpwanza which is next to a roundabout. Koffi was mocking them about that they were turning whole time on a rondabout. Jossart Nyoka Longa was very angry about that song and did his very best to bring Zaiko Europe and they replied very hard with the song Proverbs 22:1 (Antoine missisa)




Malanda Ngombe was a song made against Papa Wemba who dissed him very hard in the song O'koningana and attacked him the songs Fula Ngenge, Abu Pia, m'odikenda & Martina B. as Mutu Nguba (Peannot head) and much other things like that. Koffi was very chocked replied very hard with the song Malanda Ngombe, which means a cow who follows someone everywhere (in reference that Wemba followed him in performing at Zenith '99). In the song self he reffered to the past of him and Wemba (1978), that he made Wemba what he is/was today with the songs he gave to him at the beginning of Viva La Musica and that Wemba beneficed the most with it, that he jealous etc. and called him Shamazulu (someone with a big noise). He also attacked Papa Wemba in the beginning of the generic Attentat (es-que redacteur ya bible eza ye, the song Elongi ya Jesus as reference) and the songs like Victoire and Kamutshima.

In the song Nul n'est Parfait he attacked the guys from Academia a little in the intro of the song and made Babia diss Wemba, singing that Wemba forgot the number of kids he made in his life.

The second conflict between him and Wemba started from nowhere in 1998. When Wemba's girl-dancers of Nouvelle Ecriture (Coco Maria, Chantal, Mimi, etc.) provocked Koffi's girl-dancers that they are prissoniers etc. during the time that they came for a tour in Europe. During the tour some dancers decided to stay in Europe and Koffi mocked Wemba for not being able to handle girldancers. Which didn't please Wemba and from that attacks started against the two artists through interviews and became hardcore after that Nouvelle Ecriture performed at Zenith in March '99. With Bendoson, Pompom Miyake, Alpatshino, Patchecko and Bogus attacking Koffi as Mutu Nguba.



Suivez le Guide was a praise song like Number One, Respect, etc. but had some little attack towards J.B. Mpiana. Koffi also attacked JB in Generation Bercy and Piwawa. The beef against J.B. Mpiana really started in 1999, after accepting Nono Diamant, Miette Shegue and Suzuki in the band, which made him angry. The conflict became worse when Koffi sended his musicians to attack JB, after his first Stade des Martyrs concert in december 1999. Because Koffi could not accept that JB was the first star to fill it, while himself tried that earlier that but it flopped. He also sended CNN to wore the same cloths in Attentat-generic, which JB wore during his Stade des Martyrs-concert, which was messed up by the rain.


The conflict  become worser trougth the year 2000, where they were even suspended on tv for some time. In 2001 it became very hardcore, when JB wanted to perform at Bercy and the BCBG-camp began to call Koffi "Bin Laden" and claiming that he was not Congolese....

BCBG named the next album in reference to that conflict Anti-Terro in 2001 and placed even a doppleganger in the generic of Anti-Terro in 2004. Koffi replied then with naming the next-album Monde Arabe which he annouced as next solo-album, just after Effrakata before working on Affaire d'Etat.
In the polemic continued in the next years 2002, 03 & 04, with 2003 as peak. Where both artist where fighting about the nickname "Hero National".



Diabolos and Salopette were the songs Koffi made against Fally, from who's departure hurting him very hard and especially the interview made with Thierry Dawa. He the same album he attacked Wazekwa, who dissed him in the generic of Que Demande Le Peuple, which hurted Koffi very hard.
« Last Edit: June 20, 2016, 12:08 by mvulusi96 »

shamala #1 on: June 20, 2016, 04:41

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 5465
  • Karma: +11/-6
    • View Profile
PORTE-PAROLE NON OFFICIEL DE JB MPIANA ET WENGE BCBG.

NEWSIDE96 #2 on: June 20, 2016, 10:45

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1054
  • Karma: +2/-1
    • View Profile
He holds the records for the most conflicts e.g. Papa wemba, King kester emeneya, nyoka longo, Wenge Musica (all together), Jb mpiana, werrason, felix wazekwa, le Karmapa, dakumda newman, zacharie and many others. Mvulusi96 do us a full history by detail please

archos #3 on: June 20, 2016, 11:20

  • Mighty Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23440
  • Karma: +62/-26
    • View Profile
two other factors to the early jb koffi conflict were the fact jb had a "metisse" sidekick and while jb went to canada,koffi who was then much richer got that girlthen it started something lke 4 conflicts over common sidekicks,and this motivated jb to get much richer so he does not lose out just because of wealth
also to support werra,koffi then already started to plan stealing the backbone of bcbg aimelia,afande,titina,caludji which is also why to prove a point bcbg came from tour with cars even for dancers as
about that jacket jb wore on the first martyrs,koffi also gave it to jf ifonge to go attack jb and jossart(the last time in his career he did that trick was with late babia chokoro who he gave the absolutely exact replica of wazekwa's black jacket of olympia then the week later the golden one to another musician)
the period from 98 to 2000 was very tense between koffi and wemba on spiritual and normal level,many times their common friends tried to calm things down but it did not last
bendoson recently explained on tv that when he briefly joined quartier latin,koffi's condition for him to go in south africa to record was to sing in malanda ngombe and especially  the part lola did" libulu molayi.....le grand mopao eza nga fungola livre na yo ya histoire.... moto asala que yo ozala eza nga etumbu na yo na la vie se kozala seko sima na nga malanda ngombe" and he refused to do it and returned to viva three days after his arrival

NEWSIDE96 #4 on: June 20, 2016, 11:35

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1054
  • Karma: +2/-1
    • View Profile
two other factors to the early jb koffi conflict were the fact jb had a "metisse" sidekick and while jb went to canada,koffi who was then much richer got that girlthen it started something lke 4 conflicts over common sidekicks,and this motivated jb to get much richer so he does not lose out just because of wealth
also to support werra,koffi then already started to plan stealing the backbone of bcbg aimelia,afande,titina,caludji which is also why to prove a point bcbg came from tour with cars even for dancers as
about that jacket jb wore on the first martyrs,koffi also gave it to jf ifonge to go attack jb and jossart(the last time in his career he did that trick was with late babia chokoro who he gave the absolutely exact replica of wazekwa's black jacket of olympia then the week later the golden one to another musician)
the period from 98 to 2000 was very tense between koffi and wemba on spiritual and normal level,many times their common friends tried to calm things down but it did not last
bendoson recently explained on tv that when he briefly joined quartier latin,koffi's condition for him to go in south africa to record was to sing in malanda ngombe and especially  the part lola did" libulu molayi.....le grand mopao eza nga fungola livre na yo ya histoire.... moto asala que yo ozala eza nga etumbu na yo na la vie se kozala seko sima na nga malanda ngombe" and he refused to do it and returned to viva three days after his arrival

Archos one thing I would like to know is why did Bendoson go to quartier latin when he was literally the no.1 of nouvelle ecrita, I heard he a problem with the staff of viva and them being scared he could over as leader is that the truth??? or another thing

mvulusi96 #5 on: June 20, 2016, 12:14

  • Guest
I'm doubting about Bendoson's declarations that he left Quartier Latin because of the song Malanda Ngombe. Because in another interview he said that he joined Quartier Latin, because he was suspended by Wemba's staff and that he returned because Amazone wanted him back in Nouvelle Ecriture. The same Bendoson attacked Wemba many times in interviews when they created "Nouvelle Ecriture de l'An 2000" with Pompom Miyake, Ramazani & Christian na Nzenze.

mvulusi96 #6 on: June 20, 2016, 12:15

  • Guest
He holds the records for the most conflicts e.g. Papa wemba, King kester emeneya, nyoka longo, Wenge Musica (all together), Jb mpiana, werrason, felix wazekwa, le Karmapa, dakumda newman, zacharie and many others. Mvulusi96 do us a full history by detail please

hmmm eko zwa temps, but I will try it.

archos #7 on: June 20, 2016, 15:11

  • Mighty Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23440
  • Karma: +62/-26
    • View Profile

 
 i just found an interview of him talking about it, from 18 10
there are other versions about why he only did three days in latino,for example there is a version that  he found out that koffi was dating a dancer who was also his girlfriend

Jdog #8 on: June 21, 2016, 04:58

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 8840
  • Karma: +15/-11
    • View Profile
This guy has the most beefs in Congolese music history. Koffi attacked JB a few times in Effrakata, and surprising his first Stade De Martys concert was a flop when he was already a big star but JB filled it up. Lol JB attacked Koffi hard with those comments. Shamazulu  :D :D SLG was clear attack on JB Mpiana Mukulu. It's funny that the intro with Gibson was for Patience Ibembo but it was ultimately given to Gibson  ::) :D
« Last Edit: June 21, 2016, 05:04 by Jdog »
Or moto asala le monde eza yo Nzambe tata, Kita okata po mokili trop matata, kata- Fally Ipupa

mvulusi96 #9 on: June 21, 2016, 20:12

  • Guest
If Koffi didn't fill the Stade des Martyrs in 1999, then it was because of not having a big fanbase at that time like Papa Wemba, Emeneya, J.B. M'piana, Marie Paul & Werrason. The other fact was that people of Zaiko & Viva did everything to distroy his first concert at the stadium. At that time also nobody didn't fill that stadium even Werrason & L.D. Kabila(except; Pepe Kalle-event, Tokufa Pona Kongo). When J.B. filled the stadium everyone wanted to do better than him (idem: Palais du Peuple). When J.B. broke everyones records with that Bling-Bling event at Stade des Martyrs(attendence 200.000), Koffi wanted to prove him that he isn't only superior at Bercy but also at Stade des Martyrs. In the hope to not flop again he asked his friend Werrason for help and so guys like Bill Clinton, Heritier went also help with the promotion. With the result that Koffi filled the stadium with more than 150.000 people (65% fans of Maison Maison). Something that Koffi didn't except, despite of not having broke JB's record(Werra would finally do it at the end year with A La Que Leu Leu). If you pay attention to the concert you will notice that Koffi was drunk during the concert. Emeneya wasn't really pleased that Koffi filled the stadium, claiming that his concert was for free and he wanted to prove him a point after that tour of Zenith & Olympia, but finally cancelled that concert.

Matebu #10 on: June 21, 2016, 21:05

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6127
  • Karma: +30/-7
    • View Profile
^ Yes, Zaiko (Nyoka Longo was still obsessed with undermining Koffi) and Viva made sure the 1999 Stade de Martyrs flopped because the people who would've showed up  had the stadium been filled to capacity would have their fans (shegues). Koffi's fanbase base until about '99 were middle to upper class individuals and predominantly outside Congo.

During the Ndombolo era, like everyone else, he switched his style up to appeal to the younger street audiences who were in love with the Wenges, Nouvelle écriture, and the Ndombolo Zaiko.

Koffi was piss drunk when he showed up to the 2002 concert partially because he did anticipate the crowd of that size to actually be there when Mac Kenro informed him. He had told Mac Kenro if the stadium wasn't filled to capacity he would not show up. They didn't really plan out the concert, which is why the choreography was an absolute mess, they weren't sure what songs to play, and there was about 100 people on stage.

The concert is a cringeworthy watch, especially seeing how drunk Koffi was. He held a concert beforehand in Masina to get a feel of the audience and what they wanted to hear.

SoukousFan #11 on: June 21, 2016, 21:27

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 640
  • Karma: +3/-1
    • View Profile
What a great read! May you provide a link to the 2002 concert? I want to see Koffi piss drunk ;D

mvulusi96 #12 on: June 22, 2016, 00:09

  • Guest
^ Yes, Zaiko (Nyoka Longo was still obsessed with undermining Koffi) and Viva made sure the 1999 Stade de Martyrs flopped because the people who would've showed up  had the stadium been filled to capacity would have their fans (shegues). Koffi's fanbase base until about '99 were middle to upper class individuals and predominantly outside Congo.

During the Ndombolo era, like everyone else, he switched his style up to appeal to the younger street audiences who were in love with the Wenges, Nouvelle écriture, and the Ndombolo Zaiko.

Koffi was piss drunk when he showed up to the 2002 concert partially because he did anticipate the crowd of that size to actually be there when Mac Kenro informed him. He had told Mac Kenro if the stadium wasn't filled to capacity he would not show up. They didn't really plan out the concert, which is why the choreography was an absolute mess, they weren't sure what songs to play, and there was about 100 people on stage.

The concert is a cringeworthy watch, especially seeing how drunk Koffi was. He held a concert beforehand in Masina to get a feel of the audience and what they wanted to hear.

Was that because of Koffi destroying Nyoch mariage ?

mvulusi96 #13 on: June 22, 2016, 00:17

  • Guest

 
 i just found an interview of him talking about it, from 18 10
there are other versions about why he only did three days in latino,for example there is a version that  he found out that koffi was dating a dancer who was also his girlfriend

What was Bendoson role during the creation of Nouvelle Ecriture? Because I saw in the past many interviews that where he claimed to be the founder of the name Nouvelle Ecriture and participated in the recruitment of musicians in the band. While himself was recruited by Reddy & Wemba

from 12: 02 min someone explaining the fouding of Nouvelle Ecriture...
« Last Edit: June 22, 2016, 00:22 by mvulusi96 »

Matebu #14 on: June 22, 2016, 01:38

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6127
  • Karma: +30/-7
    • View Profile




^ 8:00 onwards ;D

Supposedly Koffi himself was embarrassed watching this concert and reverted to his established fanbase leading up to the release of Affaire d'etat. After this concert he began to abandon the Effrakata gimmick (alien glasses, red leather, and early 2000's braids).

About a year or so later his idol Tabu Ley criticized him for abandoning Tcha Tcho (criticism he took very personally). This led to the new album format of Monde Arabe, which was about 85% rhumba, 15% generique/sebene songs instead of 50/50. The rest is history..


Was that because of Koffi destroying Nyoch mariage ?

I don't think Koffi destroyed Nyoka's marriage, he had several unsuccessful marriages beforehand. It was more the issue with Koffi repeatedly disrespecting Nyoka because of Zaiko's obvious decline as you've mentioned. "President" Nyoka kicked out all the 70-80's Zaiko members as Zaiko lost the huge prestige it had in the 80's. "Boza ko Rond Point" - Koffi.

Koffi never let go of the fact that Nyoka tried getting close to Koffi's mother in 1994-1995 to get attain his success formula. I've never gotten a clear answer regarding whether or not they actually dated. Koffi's then singer/spokesman JF Ifonge called Nyoka his colleague and insulted him enough to get himself arrested.
« Last Edit: June 22, 2016, 04:28 by Matebu5 »