Author Topic: Abel De Charme talks more about why he left Bcbg  (Read 8501 times)

Jdog on: December 13, 2016, 08:06

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He says he left Bcbg because he felt his time came in those 14 years he spent but he said he would've stayed if he got a chance to talk to JB. Abel said that it would be better if JB took back control of Bcbg because the people running it day to day aren't doing a good job. Abel said that he rarely got to talk to JB recently whether in person or via messages because JB would reply late, he also says that he would like if there is at least one public rehearsal a month because that would give the artists more exposure and to do reunions more often because he said there is a lot of artists in Bcbg who would like to give their taughts to JB. He was asked what was his best moment in Bcbg and he said it was when JB screamed his name during vocals and the presenter (a former F'Victeam dancer by the way) was surprised and he said he only traveled once in fourteen years and that was to Pointe-Noire and he got three shorts vocals (he seemed annoyed when talking about). Abel says that he has already done one video that will be released soon and is working on his project Flamme Olympique. He said that he ever joined Quatier Latin and only went to rehearsal with to see his friends Mayase and Omba and he sang a song and the fans there taught he joined and started those rumors.         
Or moto asala le monde eza yo Nzambe tata, Kita okata po mokili trop matata, kata- Fally Ipupa

EMOVICTEAM #1 on: December 13, 2016, 18:07

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archos #2 on: December 13, 2016, 18:55

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he is right to be pissed because the guy got 11 vocals taken down by jdl and co for no reason,even genta's ezalazala was actually his lead and not chai's but jdl and co decided to change and gave reasons to jb and since he trusts them to death he found it totally normal
 so ending with 58 seconds or so of contribution in all that time  and because of jealous guys is not too nice

Jdog #3 on: December 13, 2016, 19:54

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He had 11 vocals in Ball de Matche you mean? And who is JDL to do stuff to Genta's song? It's sad because Abel's career was completey wasted in Bcbg, how can someone be in a  group for fourteen years be that good of a singer and only go to one voyage to a city that's right next door to yours in a way and only get three short vocals. JB is not that good of a leader, he gets word form other people without even conforming it.
Or moto asala le monde eza yo Nzambe tata, Kita okata po mokili trop matata, kata- Fally Ipupa

archos #4 on: December 13, 2016, 21:09

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 no before balle de match in soyons serieux and quel est ton probleme even the few vocals he had which we know were often cut, none of them was done entirely
jdl and seguin influence kibens a lot over vocals of people who are their favorites or not in studio,actually even abel's mbua vocal was done because that day jb was in studio with them
like i said in bcbg(and in the recent maison mere aswell) forget about travelling even to brazza if you do nothing to please the chiefs or if the boss himself does not support your presence on lists or if there none of the first team favourites who is missing (for example those who benefited from wata's numerous europe trips )
yes he is a man of blind trust and he knows it but still is not finding some way to change,he is like that in every aspect of his life
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CM PRINCE #5 on: December 13, 2016, 21:33

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I feel so sorry for him and guy's in a similar situation it honestly makes me sad to see such wasted talent

Jdog #6 on: December 14, 2016, 03:05

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WHat do those guys have against Abel and others??. And how does Nono Fudji get by cause his name is never mentioned in anything but he is always on albums and concerts. 
Or moto asala le monde eza yo Nzambe tata, Kita okata po mokili trop matata, kata- Fally Ipupa

EMOVICTEAM #7 on: December 14, 2016, 03:24

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WHat do those guys have against Abel and others??. And how does Nono Fudji get by cause his name is never mentioned in anything but he is always on albums and concerts.
Bcbg is like love charm. No one feels like running away even f things are against them. Nono Fuji should leave the moment abrahams cd is popular....he will not last in bcbg....

shamala #8 on: December 14, 2016, 06:09

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Nono Fudji ...
Bcbg is like love charm. No one feels like running away even f things are against them. Nono Fuji should leave the moment abrahams cd is popular....he will not last in bcbg....

I think you don't leave just for the sake. Some understand their deficiencies and understand they cannot make leaders. In BCBG no-one is forced to stay, why do they complain after leaving.  I think this nature of internal politics is not unique to BCBG.

Let me offer two pence worth of opinion. In BCBG it pays to have a mentor/protector who will cushion you from the internal politics. Cellulaire was strong until his "protectors " left him.  Independent individuals like Metreau have it tough when in conflict. At the moment touch Blaise you touch Seguin, Fusee... Genta Le Quado.... Kibense  Tolbert.... Ficcare etc. Zulema is favored by JB.

Leaving or individual  defections will not shake BCBG  or any of the big bands because the have too much  muscle.  I suggest that such defections lead to formation of group bands and not solo artists. I was just listening to Marquis and Academia and my my would they have succeeded. However big egos is not a strange subject.  Check  on any who left and see how they fare on... Djino, Chai, Bogus.

Finally if you watched the four hours BCBG  concert you could have seen a very aggressive audience with demands and this was not in Kinshasa. Now this will make JB and CO.  listen.  Hope for revival lies in aggressive fans and audience.
PORTE-PAROLE NON OFFICIEL DE JB MPIANA ET WENGE BCBG.

Toolz #9 on: December 14, 2016, 08:34

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So Shamala, if I got you right, it is until I have a godfather amongst the "lord(s)of the manor" (Kibens,Seguin,JDL,Rio,Roger) that I will become untouchable in BCBG.... Really!!!  Is that a healthy work environment?Is that the appropriate way to fair in a group?  Once I don't have them to help me "cushion" the internal politics therein, they would definitely make my stay a hellish one..  You called these mean men "mentor/protector"...Wow! This explanation is really wonderful.
So the fans that complained about these wicked men too were just trying to play politics and cry foul over nothing... Nice!

shamala #10 on: December 14, 2016, 09:46

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So Shamala, if I got you right, it is until I have a godfather amongst the "lord(s)of the manor" (Kibens,Seguin,JDL,Rio,Roger) that I will become untouchable in BCBG.... Really!!!  Is that a healthy work environment?Is that the appropriate way to fair in a group?  Once I don't have them to help me "cushion" the internal politics therein, they would definitely make my stay a hellish one..  You called these mean men "mentor/protector"...Wow! This explanation is really wonderful.
So the fans that complained about these wicked men too were just trying to play politics and cry foul over nothing... Nice!

I mean whenever you join,a senior guy can help you navigate the internal dynamics of a band. There is usually intense competition internally and if you are good chances are you will receive flak. "protectors" are not necesssarily Kibens,Seguin,JDL,Rio,Roger  I just used them as an example. Backbiting,backstabbing sorcery etc just to get ahead in any band is quite evident.
About fans I meant fans pressure is what will force changes.
PORTE-PAROLE NON OFFICIEL DE JB MPIANA ET WENGE BCBG.

Toolz #11 on: December 14, 2016, 11:08

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Oh ok.  Shamala...Thank you. Nevertheless, that approach is not a good one.  I should be able to do well based on the merit by/with which I was recruited into the group(which I think is the talent and not any other thing).  It is the leadership that has got issues.  If he is not the kind of person that seeks approval from people( which encourages a lot of snitching,backstabbing and backbiting)  , we won't be talking about all this now. Those 5 Chaolin masters know what JB's weakness(es) is/are and they are capitalising on it to the best of their abilities against the younger or non-influential members of the band.

archos #12 on: December 14, 2016, 11:14

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WHat do those guys have against Abel and others??. And how does Nono Fudji get by cause his name is never mentioned in anything but he is always on albums and concerts.

 the guys have against the other ones the fact they want them to bow,simple as that,and exceptions are those who are natural boss favourites (genta,ficarre who jb sees as a big brother,zulema who never gets suspended even when gone missing with his drug issues)
for example when rio was not too much on their side they got him removed of tour list,or when a guy like atshuda completely bowed to them giving them money out of his mabanga money,introducing several sidekicks who have money to them;doing unsettling missions for them....the guy ever sincehe went even just to his first brazza concert has missed zero concert abroad and has become jb's most cherished singer outside the th guys to extent that jb wants to take him to europe on private mode to do an europe clip of his new song instead of the one done when balle de match was only 3 songs
nono fudji gets away with trouble by being a bit neutral he is polite with the camp of seguin and with the camp of ficarre genta so he is in the middle and sticks to his job

EMOVICTEAM #13 on: December 14, 2016, 12:25

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Jb is not in control. And if he was no more or he stopped music, this band can't go anywhere....

Cavalier Solitaire #14 on: December 14, 2016, 14:38

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WHat do those guys have against Abel and others??. And how does Nono Fudji get by cause his name is never mentioned in anything but he is always on albums and concerts.

 the guys have against the other ones the fact they want them to bow,simple as that,and exceptions are those who are natural boss favourites (genta,ficarre who jb sees as a big brother,zulema who never gets suspended even when gone missing with his drug issues)
for example when rio was not too much on their side they got him removed of tour list,or when a guy like atshuda completely bowed to them giving them money out of his mabanga money,introducing several sidekicks who have money to them;doing unsettling missions for them....the guy ever sincehe went even just to his first brazza concert has missed zero concert abroad and has become jb's most cherished singer outside the th guys to extent that jb wants to take him to europe on private mode to do an europe clip of his new song instead of the one done when balle de match was only 3 songs
nono fudji gets away with trouble by being a bit neutral he is polite with the camp of seguin and with the camp of ficarre genta so he is in the middle and sticks to his job

You can tell the chiefs have so much power in BCBG to the extent that young guys like Fusee are scared to even discuss sensitive internal politics. I watched one clip were Fusee literally refused to comment on the departure of Abraham. When asked he repeatedly kept saying "nakoloba te". Until the interviewer changed the question. Lol