Say whatever you want,call us nerd or whatever,the fact remains that it is a trashy song. Am a DJ and personally I would not play this shit especially because of the crap animation by a reject Kirikou who was rejected in two major bands.
Selfie is a bit different because Koffi did the animation himself and it is catchy though the lyrics have no proper meaning,it's just a song to have fun with not this Nyataquance which was overhyped. Am sure Koffi is paying young chaps to take videos of themselves and posting them to him so that he uploads them in his quest to make it go viral like Selfie,he may succeed but the song remains trash.

Music Nerd is not meant to be an insult. It just means you are more critical than the average listener. You may never play it but judging by some of the replies here the song is getting played in a lot of places in africa. The irony here is i always see the complaint here that the congolese are losing footing as a force in music and when a song finally makes waves across several national lines the purists are crying foul lol at the end of the day koffi has accomplished what he set out to do and that is create a song that would make ppl dance. its too early IMO to say its a "hit" but apparently its getting there. Again dont be insulted by the reality of your extreme critical nature. Some ppl have high standards and thats great. The average listener just wants to dance and wont be as critical. The criteria is pretty simple for most listeners "does it move me to dance and or listen again?" all of the details and critical points you guys point out the average listener doesnt care about.

This is something i had to learn with regards to hip hop as an artist. I can make the most intricate rhyme schmes in my raps all i want but if ppl are not compelled to move they dont care how many syllables i can cram into a verse lol its just the reality

on the question of quality of production we also have to take into consideration what archos said on another thread on this same running issue. it is about the loss of hassle free work and production in european studios and more important those european based producers and studio engineers. the avalanche of owners with their own studios in congo today is a slow but natural response to this stifling of access to europe due to the combatant situation. in the meantime it is affecting their quality but in the long term i think their studio investments in congo will prove more wonderful investments in congolese music and will be more sustainable and their quality will also gradually get there.

my only issue with the criticism is just how absolutely brutal you guys are and not in the least bit nuanced in them. not even for example take this "nyataquance". surely there is at least one or two things one can say they like about it. say for example you like the bass guitar or the drumss or this crie but not that one etc etc. it is just "this is bad this is crap this is nonsense" etc etc. again and again and again. there is no nuanced or deeper criticism of the music you guys are criticizing whatsover.

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my only issue with the criticism is just how absolutely brutal you guys are and not in the least bit nuanced in them. not even for example take this "nyataquance". surely there is at least one or two things one can say they like about it. say for example you like the bass guitar or the drumss or this crie but not that one etc etc. it is just "this is bad this is crap this is nonsense" etc etc. again and again and again. there is no nuanced or deeper criticism of the music you guys are criticizing whatsover.

Only a few of us on this forum play instruments or understand the concepts of creation of this genre of music,Congolese rhumba. If we start discussing every little detail for instance if the shaker used was computer generated or an actual shaker etc people will start say we are being petty.

Basically,i have praised Koffi for his song Selfie in which he did the animation himself, this nyataquance i listened once on my headphones and for the second time on stereo speakers and i still didn't feel it.

One thing you must understand why it's being trashed is that it was overhyped prior to release, Koffi is still going on about it being the "original dance ya ba boss" as he trashed Ferre Gola's version which in my opinion is the best so when some of us listened to Koffi's version which sounds like it was made in some cheap studio, we just started laughing.

This is the real dance ya ba boss

Let's just remember that we will not always agree so we can just agree to disagree that is why we are on a music forum, views are divergent and it's normal amd serious banter or polemic has always been part of Congolese music.

At the end of the day, I'm just glad we live in a era of choice, where we have complete control of what we listen to.

Whilst people are jumping up and down to Nyataquance while recording themselves for Facebook, I can enjoy one of his countless classics - in his true form, and be easily reminded of his artistic greatness

Simple! It is so simple! Some of us would really need to take the chill pill and stop being offensive and defensive at the same time. It is unnecessary. We should always bear in mind that opinions wont be the same.It is a music forum with people of divergent views/opinions about music. This is the reality we have have failed to accept.

We're the problem!! Music changed but we did not change with it. Some of us want it the original way and I mean only the original way if not then its given all that name. Many of us are still seated waiting for Effrakata and its not coming and it wont come because everything changed. The only problem we have when expressing our views is the wholesome dismissive nature of the artiste. I was shocked one day when it was said in here that Skol is crap!! Ok guys Koffi is not making music for experts, he's making music to entertain his fans and to win the hearts of those who are not keen on Congolese music.
The reason why Kenya features a lot in some of these discussions is that Kenyans are hard to make happy and if they embrace a song then we normally consider it successful. Nobody knew Mose Fan Fan in Kenya 5 years ago but today his song has nearly been made national anthem.

Simple! It is so simple! Some of us would really need to take the chill pill and stop being offensive and defensive at the same time. It is unnecessary. We should always bear in mind that opinions wont be the same.It is a music forum with people of divergent views/opinions about music. This is the reality we have have failed to accept.

Wise words indeed. There is no expert in musical taste. So when you say a song is trash, that is your OWN PERSONAL OPINION!!!!Playing an instrument does not make a person an authority on what music is crap and which one is not. For that, it is the ears and an individual's musical preference that we use to decide. A good example is @SLY, who insists that Nyataquance is crap, but available evidence is that thousands and thousands are enjoying the song!!!So instead of insisting, realise you are in the minority and like Matebu go back to your long-time classics. And by the way, Nyataquance does not excite me much but FOR ME it is waaaaaay better than Ferre's original version..........that is how varied musical taste is!!!!!!I f you love or hate a song, not everybody has to like or hate the same song!!!

Most young people are clueless about real music. Koffi's new song was decent but a joke compare to his older songs. Koffi has been rubbish since 2009. Since then, his music has gotten more rotten day by day.

Koffi Olomide is getting his fans from his older music. Not his new music. His new music is meaningless and total shit. Nyataquance and Selfie as well as Mwana with the most overrated singer ever Evoloko are exceptions.

Most young people are clueless about real music. Koffi's new song was decent but a joke compare to his older songs. Koffi has been rubbish since 2009. Since then, his music has gotten more rotten day by day.

Koffi Olomide is getting his fans from his older music. Not his new music. His new music is meaningless and total shit. Nyataquance and Selfie as well as Mwana with the most overrated singer ever Evoloko are exceptions.

YMMV. Your theory that most young people are clueless about music is complete heresay. Even on this forum, there are young people like yourself who know quite a bit about what you call "real music".

It'd be a complete different story if he recent releases did not have any attention, but at this moment this song (like selfie 1.5 years ago) is on top of all the African charts and iTunes world charts. These are facts that cannot be denied. Most Koffiphiles/ettes like his old and new music regardless.

We get that you don't like recent releases, but the proof of the pudding - he found a niche and has adapted well to the times. Now he's laughing straight to the bank

Simple! It is so simple! Some of us would really need to take the chill pill and stop being offensive and defensive at the same time. It is unnecessary. We should always bear in mind that opinions wont be the same.It is a music forum with people of divergent views/opinions about music. This is the reality we have have failed to accept.

Wise words indeed. There is no expert in musical taste. So when you say a song is trash, that is your OWN PERSONAL OPINION!!!!Playing an instrument does not make a person an authority on what music is crap and which one is not. For that, it is the ears and an individual's musical preference that we use to decide. A good example is @SLY, who insists that Nyataquance is crap, but available evidence is that thousands and thousands are enjoying the song!!!So instead of insisting, realise you are in the minority and like Matebu go back to your long-time classics. And by the way, Nyataquance does not excite me much but FOR ME it is waaaaaay better than Ferre's original version..........that is how varied musical taste is!!!!!!I f you love or hate a song, not everybody has to like or hate the same song!!!

My friend,hold it right there, let's not go personal. Read my sentiments again then you will realise why i mentioned that i play guitar but if you're not bothered to read,i will remind you that one forum member asked me and other critics why we cannot find at least something positive about the song for instance how the instruments were played etc and that is how my comment came in regarding my ability to play guitar.

Let's not stoop low and start arguing like kids over some overhyped song. My sentiments are mine only,if you don't like what i write just scroll to other replies,it's that simple. Let's not be too serious like we get paid. There is banter in Congolese music just like there is in football between fans but we never go personal in football.

We're the problem!! Music changed but we did not change with it. Some of us want it the original way and I mean only the original way if not then its given all that name. Many of us are still seated waiting for Effrakata and its not coming and it wont come because everything changed. The only problem we have when expressing our views is the wholesome dismissive nature of the artiste. I was shocked one day when it was said in here that Skol is crap!! Ok guys Koffi is not making music for experts, he's making music to entertain his fans and to win the hearts of those who are not keen on Congolese music.
The reason why Kenya features a lot in some of these discussions is that Kenyans are hard to make happy and if they embrace a song then we normally consider it successful. Nobody knew Mose Fan Fan in Kenya 5 years ago but today his song has nearly been made national anthem.

Music and life always evolve but it depends on which direction it's headed.

Generally, a new product or service by a provider is expected to be better than tbeir previous service or product,it's the same with music.

It is a fact that Koffi has lost direction no wonder his albums in the last 9 years have been flops, to be precise, since Danger De Mort, his albums have not been popular, it's just one or two songs that have been really appreciated on the market. Just look at the album 13eme Apotre, a 4CD album yet only one song is popular(Selfie).

We are not waiting for another Effrakata but just decent music that will be listened to forever not songs for a particular moment like Selfie which was popular coz of the new trend of taking selfies and posting on social media.

When you say you saw someone here say Skol is rubbish, be specific, which Skol?
For me, this, Skol Mandramanda was an absolute waste of time, i think Bracongo saw it too no wonder they were not bothered to retain Koffi as their brand ambassador,they opted to remain with Bill Clinton as their main man.


But this was the real deal


Music arrangement really matters and determines the long term success of an album or song,it's not just about going viral temporarily.

Music and life always evolve but it depends on which direction it's headed.

When you say you saw someone here say Skol is rubbish, be specific, which Skol?
For me, this, Skol Mandramanda was an absolute waste of time, i think Bracongo saw it too no wonder they were not bothered to retain Koffi as their brand ambassador,they opted to remain with Bill Clinton as their main man.

lol, I was not able to listen to this in full when it first came out because it pissed me off so much. Haven't been tempted since to click on it, add to my library, or let anyone play it in social settings.

I guess because it was the first record where I was like "damn, he really fell off". As much as I wanted to fault the album, BEK has some great rhumbas, and it went gold quickly despite all the odds.

Skol Longitima was a classic from day one; the swangsong record for the second generation of Quartier Latin

lol, I was not able to listen to this in full when it first came out because it pissed me off so much. Haven't been tempted since to click on it, add to my library, or let anyone play it in social settings.

I guess because it was the first record where I was like "damn, he really fell off". As much as I wanted to fault the album, BEK has some great rhumbas, and it went gold quickly despite all the odds.

kiekiekie,i never bothered to add Mandramanda too, i failed to understand what koffi was thinking.

Thanks for reminding me about BEK, forgot about,it's a decent album by Koffi's standards,he did a bit of serious  singing not just mumbling in a deep voice.
I also liked the intervention of Les Mineurs singers and atalukus. I also appreciated Cindy at that point then Koffi followed up that with duets between himself and her, keeping male singers at bay and I got lost.

Apart from Omba, Poumpa Mystique the soloist and Suira Mondelu the excellent drummer and two atalukus, I struggle to remember the names of most of the new Quartier Latin musicians though I can recognise some,it's really sad how the band has changed. Ferre and Fally's departure really messed Koffi up.

Simple! It is so simple! Some of us would really need to take the chill pill and stop being offensive and defensive at the same time. It is unnecessary. We should always bear in mind that opinions wont be the same.It is a music forum with people of divergent views/opinions about music. This is the reality we have have failed to accept.

Wise words indeed. There is no expert in musical taste. So when you say a song is trash, that is your OWN PERSONAL OPINION!!!!Playing an instrument does not make a person an authority on what music is crap and which one is not. For that, it is the ears and an individual's musical preference that we use to decide. A good example is @SLY, who insists that Nyataquance is crap, but available evidence is that thousands and thousands are enjoying the song!!!So instead of insisting, realise you are in the minority and like Matebu go back to your long-time classics. And by the way, Nyataquance does not excite me much but FOR ME it is waaaaaay better than Ferre's original version..........that is how varied musical taste is!!!!!!I f you love or hate a song, not everybody has to like or hate the same song!!!

My friend,hold it right there, let's not go personal. Read my sentiments again then you will realise why i mentioned that i play guitar but if you're not bothered to read,i will remind you that one forum member asked me and other critics why we cannot find at least something positive about the song for instance how the instruments were played etc and that is how my comment came in regarding my ability to play guitar.

Let's not stoop low and start arguing like kids over some overhyped song. My sentiments are mine only,if you don't like what i write just scroll to other replies,it's that simple. Let's not be too serious like we get paid. There is banter in Congolese music just like there is in football between fans but we never go personal in football.

I sense some superiority complex here. You said that only few of you understand the concept of the creation of Congolese rhumba and I said that does not make you an expert in musical taste to tell us if a song is a hit or a flop. Let us use our ears to decide not your ability to play a guitar. And it seems you are the WRONG one because your 'expertise' is telling you that Nyataquance is crap and overhyped, the whole continent thinks otherwise and is dancing.
Secondly you tell me if I dont like your post I should scroll to the next, good advice indeed but it may be wise for you to take your own advice and ignore kiddish comments like this and scroll to those ones that agree with your opinion. Seems you like people to always bow to your sense of 'knowing which song is crap, which soloist is whack, which argument is petty blah blah blah' My intellectual leaning does not afford me such luxuries!!!!

Koffi Trump Boss ya ba boss, feeding both his fans and critics on the same plate...