Author Topic: ONE OF WENGE STAFF TALKS ABOUT FERRE AND DEBUT OF MAISON MERE  (Read 7111 times)

archos on: July 25, 2017, 17:02

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He says after the very tense reunion of wenge musica 4X4 (werra wanted to beat jb for the fact he dealt with the money of feux de l'amour directly with musicians without  it being discussed in reunions so it was for werra like jb betrayed how they were leaving peanuts to musicians and also like jb "bought" musicians on his side by doing that) the members were told to wait for another reunion
but the camp of jb which was already very organized were determined went on to rehearse and  said those who were not there are out of wenge4X4 and werra sent him that guy and other guys to "spy" at the rehearsal to see if its really true that jb and co are rehearsing
and when they confirmed it was true it got werra very determined to counter them
the day after,when the guy went to werra's house he found jdt mulopwe there with werra and in the same period not too long after he went again and saw werra and ferre discussing about doing something together while masela and adolphe were still hoping for 4X4 return and they came after as adolphe failed to convince werra to  go to see jb and co and reunite
and there was a strong connexion between werra and ferre which made werra true ferre even more than didier and  adolphe to organize tests and co  despite his young age
he is asked whether ferre then can be called co-founder of the group  he hesitates as he knows its quite controversial so he does not want to piss any of the camp so he says its werra who came with idea but ferre contributed a lot 
and he says war between fans of jb and werra started that day of the newly born wenge bcbg rehearsal as werra and jdt arrived in that area to challenge them and from that moment split between fans could be seen
they then started  very well like we all know  and he is asked about the kibuisa mpimpa period which almost lead already to les marquis,and says baby ndombe was the most vocal about the group's anger over some issues which lead to relation turning really bad between him and werra and after  werra convinced them to go and finish kibuisa  werra started using that guy and other ones to "spy" ferre baby and co and report to him and some musicians were also reporting to him after attending reunions about forming a band and agreeing with them
and in staff also there were guys who became unhappy as in the past they'd all be asked their opinion and discuss with werra but then at some point he    was ignoring some of them's point of view
about baby and the mampata affair he says its false that baby did that but the thing he remembers is that there was one guy who was coming to rehearsals with baby  who werra ordered bodyguards not to let in anymore and  that guy got beaten by them which pissed baby off and he stopped singing during rehearsal to go and fight with them and the rehearsals ended badly as crowd were going out to watch what happened
and the guy (mike longange) says he become so close to them and werra did not listen to him anymore that he knew they would found les marquis and he is asked whether for him they did well to leave the group and he says he understands them as harmony was not the same anymore and if there is no harmony its easier to see all the flaws and get pissed more quickly and since the staff were protecting their own interests instead of figthing for the harmony to come back it was inevitable

POLE POSTION #1 on: July 25, 2017, 18:01

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I AM SURE VINCENT WAS VERY DISAPPOINTED HEARING THIS AS THIS GUY IS A PRO FALLY AND PRO KOFFI AND HE DOES NOT HIDE IT SO I WATCH HIS SHOWS AND JUST LAUGH AND HE WOULD HAVE LOVE THE GUY TO SAY FERERE WAS LYING. WHAT MANY FANS OF WMM IGNORE IS FERRE DID SO MUCH IN WMM AND EVEN MORE WHEN THE LIKES OF TATA AND FONDE LEFT THE SAME AS HERITIER SO WHEN THESE 2 TALKS SO MUCH ABOUT WMM BELIEVE THEM WE KNOW WERRA IS A BIG STAR BUT TRUE SAYING HE HAD A GOOD GROUP OF HARD WORKING PEOPLE AROUND WHO WANTED THE WMM TO SUCCEED.

archos #2 on: July 25, 2017, 18:24

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 lol indeed the presenter tends to look like a fally koffi fan (depending also on how we interpret his words/attitude) but he confessed several times that he is first and foremost a maison mere fan who used to participate in fanclubs and going at airport to welcome the group   and he said several times that ferre is a great artist but the problem with journalists its quite easy to link them to an artist for some reason except those who clearly commit like the juvenal carine and co with wata or djo k with wata and earlier jb,marius for werra...

NEWSIDE96 #3 on: July 25, 2017, 20:07

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Archos just to ask a question you know a lot when it comes to the history of our music, Christian Mwepu also had a big hand concerning the debut of Maison Mere because he was the original and first chef d'orchestre plus we was given a car and money (just as with Ferre he was also having conversations with Werra) but how comes his name does not pop up. Maybe it seems like Didier Masela must of lied concerning Maison Mere as he said only him and Werra we were left. Sankara and the lad just proved JDT is the first singer/participant of Maison Mere and yes Adolphe could not decide where to go either JB or Werra. Last of all I think Ferre is so common it is because of his current stardom and in all honesty his work-rate and consistency was beyond fantastic especially artistically so I see how he can call himself co-founder but at the same time if he really was why didn't have a song on the first album??? but Christian did??? (weird)

mvulusi96 #4 on: July 25, 2017, 20:41

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I heard so many versions, but who is telling the truth? Werrason, Aldophe, Didier Masela, Sankara, Ferre of 2007, Ferre of nowadays, Christian Mwepu or Ali Mbonda ?

Yadouble #5 on: July 25, 2017, 20:52

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I really don't understand all these people who are afraid to say that Ferrè was the co-founder of Wenge without him and Bill I really don't where Werra  would be now of course you have got Celeo who got his huge success with Ko Yimbi Ko, and Japonais and Kakol who kinda renew the style of Music with their very fast tempo but Ferre on the singer section and Bill on the other side saved Werra's ass so many times, but people still think Ferrè is a bad son of Werra  just because he went to Koffi after he has been treated like less then a shit by Werra .

CM PRINCE #6 on: July 26, 2017, 01:44

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It's funny cause didier Masela, Adolphe and others have different versions by now MM was formed and this is never talked about

CM PRINCE #7 on: July 26, 2017, 01:45

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I don't know if I would say ferre is a co founder but he definitely contributed a lot

Matebu #8 on: July 26, 2017, 02:34

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It's funny cause didier Masela, Adolphe and others have different versions by now MM was formed and this is never talked about

I don’t know about you guys but the one guy I trust 1000% when it comes to Wenge “who founded what” or “who actually did X or Y” questions is Fondé du pouvoir, Didier Masela. Also, Ambassadeur Kija Brown and Makaba.

Not only were those guys there from day one, they also remained level-headed when things went south for both WM 4x4 and the original WMM.

CM Prince, Didier did an interview about 2 years ago where he set the record complete straight with his characteristic bluntness.


I’ve must watched it 10 times now because he makes very interesting revelations and drops cold hard facts. Might be my favorite interview.

Aside from them being superstars to varying degrees, the reason why Werrason, JB, and Adolphe don’t talk about their separations is because there was overwhelming emotion for them when it happened and life immediately after.

Ambassadeur Kija Brown did a tell all interview with Ado Yuhe, but unfortunately it must’ve been deleted. He answered lots of administrative questions in that interview.

CM PRINCE #9 on: July 26, 2017, 02:52

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I know I've seen that interview with masela and I believe him too when he talks about wenge him and Makaba are the ones I believe since they have nothing to lose

Yadouble #10 on: July 26, 2017, 09:57

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I don't know if I would say ferre is a co founder but he definitely contributed a lot
CM PRINCE Ferrè was one Of the people recluting at the beginning, and then the most active and later on a Chef D'Orchestre he should deserve the same respect Werra  received

CM PRINCE #11 on: July 26, 2017, 11:19

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I don't know if I would say ferre is a co founder but he definitely contributed a lot
CM PRINCE Ferrè was one Of the people recluting at the beginning, and then the most active and later on a Chef D'Orchestre he should deserve the same respect Werra  received
Who did he recruit then? Cause last I remembered it was adolphe werra masela and mabanga

archos #12 on: July 26, 2017, 12:00

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ferre did not recruit directly but he was doing tests and tried to bring friends  who for various reasons were not pickef,the most famous of them being genta because werra did not want to have two guys of the same style as atalakus

ZamundaPrince #13 on: July 26, 2017, 12:24

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There has been this version that Werra was almost giving up on music after the split of Wenge but this does not feature here. It now appears Werra was up for the challenge straight away

CM PRINCE #14 on: July 26, 2017, 16:21

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ferre did not recruit directly but he was doing tests and tried to bring friends  who for various reasons were not pickef,the most famous of them being genta because werra did not want to have two guys of the same style as atalakus
Yep and till now werra regrets not keeping genta