I have red on the Producer of Sense Interdit's post that Fally & Ferre along with Deplick and so on are the 5th generation so I assume that JB & Werra are the 4th generation with Koffi & Emeneya being the 3rd who are the first two? And when this term started to take form.

1st generation wendo,paulo kamba and co
2nd grand kalle,tabuley franco and co
3 generation zaiko (from wemba bozi nioka longo and co to koffi karmapa wazekwa) plus empire bakuba and co
4 generation wenge,laviniora esthetique and co
5 generation of ex members of wenge offshots and quartier latin and co

the concept of 5th generation came from alain mpela
and people are even already calling a 6th generation which would be deplick and co those who have max 5 years of solo career

1st generation wendo,paulo kamba and co
2nd grand kalle,tabuley franco and co
3 generation zaiko (from wemba bozi nioka longo and co to koffi karmapa wazekwa) plus empire bakuba and co
4 generation wenge,laviniora esthetique and co
5 generation of ex members of wenge offshots and quartier latin and co

the concept of 5th generation came from alain mpela
and people are even already calling a 6th generation which would be deplick and co those who have max 5 years of solo career

Bro, what do you mean when you say that the concept of 5th generation came from Alain Mpela

clan wenge stars had said that they were 4th generation because they came out of nowhere  like those who created zaiko came out of nowhere for most of them so if one day there was a 5th generation it should also be a group or an artist who came out of nowhere
but when alain mpela left bcbg he called himself the  father of 5th generation and from then people started openly talking about 5th generation especially when fally and ferre completely unlocked the solo career myth

1st generation wendo,paulo kamba and co
2nd grand kalle,tabuley franco and co
3 generation zaiko (from wemba bozi nioka longo and co to koffi karmapa wazekwa) plus empire bakuba and co
4 generation wenge,laviniora esthetique and co
5 generation of ex members of wenge offshots and quartier latin and co

the concept of 5th generation came from alain mpela
and people are even already calling a 6th generation which would be deplick and co those who have max 5 years of solo career

Actually Grand Kalle was the first Generation, in fact in the LP that Franco and Tabu Ley sang to Eulogise Kalle, they sang that Grand Kalle is the father of modern Music in Congo. ( the LP with Ngungi, I think).

On the others, you are spot on!
There seems to be a way of handing over the baton from One generation to the other:
Grand Kalle was the band leader from Whence Franco, Tabu Ley and Dr. Nico got their base and inspiration. They then formed the basis of what was to be the second Generation.
From TPOK we had Vercky's Kiamuangana who broke off and started a series of groups on his Editions Veve like Lipua Lipua, Orchestre Kiam, Les Kamale and of course the group Ziko Langa Langa which raised the bar higher. From Zaiko and the clan Langa Langa off-shoots we had the likes of Bozi Boziana, Papa Wemba, Evoloko, e.t.c.

It was Zaiko Langa Langa who gave a platform to Koffi Olomide, and he was later to form the bridge leading to the fourth
Generation prominently dominated by Wenge Musica 4X4. Wenge 4X4 also inspired a host of other groups ( all Musica like Extra Musica, Bilenge Musica) and of course Wenge Musica 4X4 itself broke off into several other off-shoots.

I would say the fifth generation is currently in formation, with Fally, Werre and co the bridge between the fourth and Fifth Generation.

 

1st generation wendo,paulo kamba and co
2nd grand kalle,tabuley franco and co
3 generation zaiko (from wemba bozi nioka longo and co to koffi karmapa wazekwa) plus empire bakuba and co
4 generation wenge,laviniora esthetique and co
5 generation of ex members of wenge offshots and quartier latin and co

the concept of 5th generation came from alain mpela
and people are even already calling a 6th generation which would be deplick and co those who have max 5 years of solo career

Actually Grand Kalle was the first Generation, in fact in the LP that Franco and Tabu Ley sang to Eulogise Kalle, they sang that Grand Kalle is the father of modern Music in Congo. ( the LP with Ngungi, I think).

On the others, you are spot on!
There seems to be a way of handing over the baton from One generation to the other:
Grand Kalle was the band leader from Whence Franco, Tabu Ley and Dr. Nico got their base and inspiration. They then formed the basis of what was to be the second Generation.
From TPOK we had Vercky's Kiamuangana who broke off and started a series of groups on his Editions Veve like Lipua Lipua, Orchestre Kiam, Les Kamale and of course the group Ziko Langa Langa which raised the bar higher. From Zaiko and the clan Langa Langa off-shoots we had the likes of Bozi Boziana, Papa Wemba, Evoloko, e.t.c.

It was Zaiko Langa Langa who gave a platform to Koffi Olomide, and he was later to form the bridge leading to the fourth
Generation prominently dominated by Wenge Musica 4X4. Wenge 4X4 also inspired a host of other groups ( all Musica like Extra Musica, Bilenge Musica) and of course Wenge Musica 4X4 itself broke off into several other off-shoots.

I would say the fifth generation is currently in formation, with Fally, Werre and co the bridge between the fourth and Fifth Generation.

No, Grand Kalle is the second generation. Because Wendo Kolosoyi, Paul Kamba, etc. started their because and had succes years before Grand Kalle and their music-style was different. Grand Kalle was making rumba-music from Cuba, while Wendo and co music-genre was polka pike, kebo and traditional music.

i dont see wazekwa as 3rd generation .. to me he belongs to the 4th generation .. please do not rely on his age . he stated he musical career after the wengue.

i dont see wazekwa as 3rd generation .. to me he belongs to the 4th generation .. please do not rely on his age . he stated he musical career after the wengue.

Interesting debatable point... he definitely has the age and sagesse of the 3rd generation, but he came on the scene as a solo act in mid-1995, which is borderline 4th - very early 5th generation, strictly going by timeline.

Before his career as a musican, he had gotten deep into a career in France in Finance (if I recall correctly).

i dont see wazekwa as 3rd generation .. to me he belongs to the 4th generation .. please do not rely on his age . he stated he musical career after the wengue.

Interesting debatable point... he definitely has the age and sagesse of the 3rd generation, but he came on the scene as a solo act in mid-1995, which is borderline 4th - very early 5th generation, strictly going by timeline.

Before his career as a musican, he had gotten deep into a career in France in Finance (if I recall correctly).

a bit like Karmapa, he also has the age and sagesse of the 3rd generation but his first album was released only in 2001 when he started the music in the 80's / 90's

indeed technically between the elders ofclan wenge et the generation of fally ferre  there is what i call the uno named generation of papa wemba's writers started with koffi who always refused to fit in any of the  generation,desi mbwese,abeba lipordo,wazekwa,karmapa
age wise karmapa is turning 60 this year but popped out when we were at beginning of that wave of fally ferre and co

indeed technically between the elders ofclan wenge et the generation of fally ferre  there is what i call the uno named generation of papa wemba's writers started with koffi who always refused to fit in any of the  generation,desi mbwese,abeba lipordo,wazekwa,karmapa
age wise karmapa is turning 60 this year but popped out when we were at beginning of that wave of fally ferre and co

There is a puzzle with such musicians. Take for example Wazekwa:

He used to write songs for Papa Wemba and Koffi before he started performing. should we call him on 3rd Generation because of his writing or should he be 4th Generation because that is when they started their own careers?

Each generation has a set of musicians that transition from one generation to the next....