Author Topic: Elliot Mondombe reveals that Werrason did everything to recruit Manda Chante  (Read 22298 times)

mvulusi96 on: August 14, 2018, 12:19

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Elliot Mondombe reveals that Werrason did everything to recruit Manda Chante in Wenge Maison Mere. He also said that Adolphe Dominguez brought Shella Mputu to Maison Mere, but that Werrason refused him. Because he came like Didier Lacoste from Yolo, which made him think that they could in the future start a band with Dominguez.

In the same video he said that the song Nostaglie was orginally written by Do Akongo (ex'Quartier Latin-guitarist) and that Heritier Wantanabe had to sing the song by his own. But that Ferre Gola was against by Heritier singing that song byhimself on the day that they were recording that song. With them ending up to sing the song together.

I think that Ferre feared that the song would be a huge succes, boost Heritier more and have a bigger impact than his song Victime d'Amour.


Cavalier Solitaire #1 on: August 14, 2018, 14:46

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Obviously because of seniority that Ferre thought he needed to feature in the possible hit song that nolstalgie was.

So Vieux Elliot is no longer with the Maison Mere team. Nice details about the beginning of Maison Mere. It seems to me that Blaise Bula had a complicated relationship with Ya Noel to the point that they fought on the day that Wenge 4*4 finally separated. Lol 

archos #2 on: August 14, 2018, 16:51

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indeed they tried hard to get manda,the likes of biblos lufulu and co spent days trying to convince him but he wanted a clear salary with proof that he'd get it,and to rent a bigger house and be in conditions to give his best,i believe the way he got tricked away from the jps contract was revenge lol
a lot of maison mere fans i know or some i read on youtube still hold mad grudge against blaise lol just seeing blaise's face you'll see long ass posts on how 21 years ago now blaise wanted to kill werra but God has proven and so on and so on
like adolphe said they really need to be all reunited somewhere and bury for good all their grudges,its not good the way they are either distant,or having friendships which can explode any day in a matter of minutes

Wenge1995 #3 on: August 14, 2018, 18:22

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@mvulusi96

Ferra Gola wasn't wrong in his assumption; Nostalgie is the better rhumba than Ferre's. However, they should both be proud of that song, the chemistry between both vocalist was very good.

@archos

Maybe Mande was too smart for his own good making all those demands, even though he was trying to maintain good business practice.

Cavalier Solitaire #4 on: August 14, 2018, 18:31

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Exactly what Vieux Mondombe is advising that Werra for example won't lose anything by calling all his ex members to come together and do a "best of Maison Mere album" . It would actually benefit him more.
But I guess egos would not allow.

archos #5 on: August 14, 2018, 18:42

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 i believe ferre also suspected 12 on him since heritier was promoted earlier than planned to "threaten" him,and baby who he was then put on open strategic conflict with ferre was the big brother to heritier,coaching him in everything to become a proper maison mere first team worth guy

Tata Nkiadi #6 on: August 14, 2018, 19:37

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Elliot Mondombe reveals that Werrason did everything to recruit Manda Chante in Wenge Maison Mere.


Manda Chante in WMM wouldn't have made sense, in my opinion.  Maybe Wenge BCBG, but then his career wouldn't have gone anywhere.  Aimelia Lias' old ass looked stupid with his shirt off in the album notes of Koyimbi Ko with the other kids; just imagine Manda.  I also don't see how his compositions would've fit into Maison Mere's repertoire.

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He also said that Adolphe Dominguez brought Shella Mputu to Maison Mere, but that Werrason refused him. Because he came like Didier Lacoste from Yolo, which made him think that they could in the future start a band with Dominguez.

Poor Shella.  He's been dicked around his whole singing career.  LOL

masatomo #7 on: August 14, 2018, 19:37

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I start to understand why Hériter was saying "nga na kimisa mutu oyo nga na ye to yembi Nostalgie" "na botoli ye ceinture challenger na ye na beti champion". I never notice a sign of a eventual rivalry between Ferre and Héritier I always wonder why they sang Nostalgie together now it makes sense.

mvulusi96 #8 on: August 14, 2018, 19:49

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I think that Manda Chante would have achieved more in his solo-career if he accepted to join Wenge Maison Mere. But if I was Manda at that moment, then I would also have said no. Because he was then number 1 in Congo with his song Ibrahim and was about to be voted as best singer of the year, having concerts with big crowds in Kinshasa and paying all the musicians of the band. While if he would join he would risk not to be paid like in Wenge 4x4.

What was Werrason seeing in Manda Chante ? Because in 1999 when Manda left EL Paris he became very close to him and he even promised to take him to Bercy with Blaise Bula, but changed his mind on the last minute. There was even a moment that people said that he was about to join Maison Mere.

It's crazy to hear people who were close to Werrason or his staff saying that he was contacting Manda Chante, JDT and Depitsho. People who witnessed the succes of EL Paris will understand why I'm saying that. Now people are joking about them since that they don't have succes anymore, but back in the days they were giving Wenge 4x4 a hard time and nobody could beat them in having open-air concerts with big crowds. Manda Chante was then the president of Wenge EL Paris,Depitsho was the Vice President of the band or chef d'orchestre don't remember anymore and Jus d'Ete used to be one main stars in 1992 before that Depitsho took his role over when he decided to stay in Europe.

mvulusi96 #9 on: August 14, 2018, 20:02

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I start to understand why Hériter was saying "nga na kimisa mutu oyo nga na ye to yembi Nostalgie" "na botoli ye ceinture challenger na ye na beti champion". I never notice a sign of a eventual rivalry between Ferre and Héritier I always wonder why they sang Nostalgie together now it makes sense.

In 2003 it became very strong, but it was more behind the scenes. But before the start of Les Marquis people from Werrason-staff tried to bring it in public, support Hertier and starting to report false stories to Werrason. Because they were jealous of Ferre travelling alot to France.

They started to do the same thing with Baby Ndombe and Werrason then starting to hate him at some point. With that fight-scene coming at the right moment, which made Baby being suspend for 2 weeks before they went to UK for Halloween. The staff started then gossiping more about him to Werrason with that story about Koffi who gave him money for a mission and that witchdoctor who said that he wanted to start a band and had to sleep with his wife. Which made Werrason decide to give him a indefinite suspension when they came back.

archos #10 on: August 14, 2018, 20:24

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then the same wata got sent challengers in miel and deplick,when lacoste wanted to bring his cousin miel in maison mere  heritier was coming to see him a lot when he was rehearsing with miel in private and they already could not stand each other,then they managed to make them kinda become friends at first then once fully settled in maison mere  miel got coached to activate the plan,there started their beef,i believe deep down outside of unsettling it was also a tactic to push the guysto be on their A game,maybe if heritier did not see that much people presented as his rivals when they joined he would not get that motivation to aswell remain a clear step ahead overall

PCGY KASTELLO #11 on: August 14, 2018, 21:03

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Let us make it clear here Werra has nothing to loose over reuniting or not to reunite with his PROTEGES....he gave them a platform to be who they are today. Werra eventhough not clearly stated has shown his managerial style .....and his style is for people not to retire in WMM but to get the exposure that is needed so that they can start their own careers and sustain their own lives. That Band is equivalent to a college, school, university were at the end of your study time you have to acquire the necessary skills and knowledge to survive on your own. I feel Werra's other proteges would have learnt from the mass exodus of Ferre and Co and leave with prestige simply by telling Werra that my time here is over let me go and fend on my own i have learnt alot and i will always come back here, this is my family. And La Zamba would be an open palace for such a one... I dont think Werra would be stupid enough to show a cold side to such a person. Let us not forget that WMM is Werra's Band, he feeds his family from that Band and it has lived on since the first generation of proteges left and today there is another intake in class doing very much well ....But what annoys me alot is that every singer has chosen to go along that route of raising the dust the day of exodus..or leaving in anger in the process spoiling the good old days and relationship made with the old man.  It puzzles me when people ask for Werra to swallow his pride to have a dialogue with Heritier, Celeo, Ferre and many others....for what? I would only understand Werra to swallow his pride and have a dialogue with the likes of JB, Dominguez, Alan, and other BCBG 4x4 clan members coz those are his level not Werra to bow down to his students who left with pride and grudge after exposing them to a good life....take a look for yourselves in the archives of old videos and see how impoverished some looked especially Celeo and you will appreciate the significance of Wenge Maison Mere. Wenge MM is a school built on the Rock and it is more than a music band !!!!

Cavalier Solitaire #12 on: August 14, 2018, 21:16

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Elliot Mondombe also reveals that he had initially given the Nolstagie song to Ferre but  that Ferre was not taking it serious which made him give it to Heritier who modified it and then Ferre became interested after it was programed and since he was Chef.

Speaking of Manda I just saw an interview with Nana Boduga were the members of Bana OK are refusing that directive by Papa Lutumba to give the band to Manda saying it doesn't make sense that Papa Lutumba could ask someone from outside to come lead the band when it has members  who can take over the leadership.

mvulusi96 #13 on: August 14, 2018, 21:21

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Elliot Mondombe also reveals that he had initially given the Nolstagie song to Ferre but  that Ferre was not taking it serious which made him give it to Heritier who modified it and then Ferre became interested after it was programed and since he was Chef.

Speaking of Manda I just saw an interview with Nana Boduga were the members of Bana OK are refusing that directive by Papa Lutumba to give the band to Manda saying it doesn't make sense that Papa Lutumba could ask someone from outside to come lead the band when it has members  who can take over the leadership.


kiekiekie. They all left and said that they would rejoin only if Manda Chante will be out the band.

Matebu #14 on: August 14, 2018, 21:31

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Elliot Mondombe also reveals that he had initially given the Nolstagie song to Ferre but  that Ferre was not taking it serious which made him give it to Heritier who modified it and then Ferre became interested after it was programed and since he was Chef.

Speaking of Manda I just saw an interview with Nana Boduga were the members of Bana OK are refusing that directive by Papa Lutumba to give the band to Manda saying it doesn't make sense that Papa Lutumba could ask someone from outside to come lead the band when it has members  who can take over the leadership.


kiekiekie. They all left and said that they would rejoin only if Manda Chante will be out the band.

Haha, « rendre à César ce qui est à César » Kester voice. I don’t understand why Mande accepted the offer thinking things would be sweet and everyone would be on board