Celeo has been finished here! Bill says Celeo has gone mad,he's finished and can't even get a contract with a sponsor etc .. :lol:
Bill also says Celeo is ungrateful because he Bill bailed him out with some money when he was broke,he also says Celeo does not even even sing praises for Didi Kinuani who bought him a house. kiekiekiekie  :lol:

there is a part towards the end when bill goes way too far,he is mocking one of celeo's children who is apparently handicapped
i knew bill woud not wait for a week to respond,he loooooooves those moments lol

Yeah, this will not end well,Celeo  made a very big mistake now he's gonna suffer but I guess this is how Werrason trained all of them to stay in the game,bring about controversy so that people have something to talk about and look forward to the polemic in their music but I guess Bill is really angry and has gone too far by mocking Celeo for his disabled child,way out of order.

<cite>@Sylvester said:</cite>
Yeah, this will not end well,Celeo  made a very big mistake now he's gonna suffer but I guess this is how Werrason trained all of them to stay in the game,bring about controversy so that people have something to talk about and look forward to the polemic in their music but I guess Bill is really angry and has gone too far by mocking Celeo for his disabled child,way out of order.

Yes on every point,bill said worse things than celeo,i am sure he did not actually watch celeo's video himself and was told it by people around him and those type of people tend to exaggerate things so that leader sees they care about him
because i really dont see what celeo said which could anger bill that much so that he goes as far as mocking his friend's children
besides their relationship has always been hot and cold several times they almost fought in nightclubs
sometimes they ignore each other,sometimes they are the best friends of the world,sometimes this type of things happen
perhaps there is something which has never been cleared up thats why they have never had a full year in good relationship for a while

dj sly,archos, what is the pay like in these big bands? because Bill depicts Celeo as very poor man who can not get a roof for himself.

dj sly,archos, what is the pay like in these big bands? because Bill depicts Celeo as very poor man who can not get a roof for himself.

Maybe archos will tell us the pay but all I know is that Bill was the first 5th generation musician to get a major contract from a large company precisely a brewery. He got his contract to promote SKOL lager brewed by Bracongo/Brassicole immediately after leaving Les Marquis De Maison Mere and it alleged he was offered a lucrative contract much to the annoyance of Werrason who was forced to switch to promoting Primus lager brewed by Bralima,Bill promotes other Bracongo brands now such as Dopel. Bracongo also brew Tembo and other popular beverages so for sure Bill is rich that's how he's maintained almost the same staff he started with, Celeo probably has nothing apart from what he's got from handouts from rich businessmen as said by Bill. :lol:

celeo struggles much more because unlike bill he has no sponsor but also most of those who were helping him when he was with werra abandoned him(like most of the guys who leave groups in troublesome conditions)
and also werra made it clear to his beer sponsor not to offer a contract to celeo(jb and werra have a word in EVERY artist set to be under contract with primus)
apart the love between him and werra(werra treated him like his son),bill is also getting close to werra because he knows werra will give him many opportunies with other sponsors
about the pay in the groups,its difficult to say numbers because he depends of the groups,and the level of the group and then also of the roles in the group
the boss' favourites are paid more than the rest
apart the official way of gaining money as an employee,like sly said they are given handouts from businessmen and fans
and when you are suspended long term, leaders give those businessmen the order not to give money to the suspended musicians or if you are starting to be out of favour,and its even worse when you leave the group in bad conditions like celeo
only a handful of those donors will not care about what the leader said and keep helping,and it rejoices the leaders see their ex employee who they falled out with struggle
it is simple when you are in a group and in good terms with the boss,you get a lot of support because you are from group X or Y and when you are out with trouble like celeo,you lose most of the support or even when you just leave it changes unless you have built a strong relationship with those rich men
like werra said in alerte generale" whoever is not with us,is against us"

My understanding here is that these so called bosses control the lives of these guys even after they leave their band. and this also can tell you that the pay is not good because if it was good then musicians can save money while still working under bosses to start their solo carriers with.

Trop ce Trop

Someone told me that these Band leader have store/warehouses and that they are given 200 crates of beers from their sponsors (SKOL/PRIMUS) is this true?

<cite>@princesab said:</cite>
Someone told me that these Band leader have store/warehouses and that they are given 200 crates of beers from their sponsors (SKOL/PRIMUS) is this true?

Yes,that is true,every month they have that plus their salary

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virabhadra

what bill's new name is.....

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virabhadra

what bill's new name is.....

Hmmmm,kiekiekiekie,these guys do a lot of research,how did he even come up with that name. :lol:

<cite>@Sylvester said:</cite>
Hmmmm,kiekiekiekie,these guys do a lot of research,how did he even come up with that name. :lol:

bill went in india this year to see sorcerers(i think he did not even realise he admitted it on tv,he said "nazokende inde  pona moto ya danger) and then its when he came back that he started using that name

celeo respongs to didier"blll clinton" and hits out at fally once again