He lied alot in this interview, claiming that he joined in 1999 and left in 2006/07 saying that he spent 7 years in Extra Musica while in many interviews he made in Brazzaville & Pointe Noire he always said that he joined Extra Musica in 2002 and left in 2005 to form Universal Zangul. In the same interview he claimed to have sung in Trop c'est Trop and he also said that he was often singing lead, while in Obligatoire he just had some vocals like Kerson Saddam and the lead being by Oxygene, Herman Ngassaki, Doudou Copa and Papy Bastin

Maybe he was trying too hard to gain credibility in this interview.

Maybe he was trying too hard to gain credibility in this interview.

It didn't help because Phylo discredited him by saying that its better to stay member in a band then becoming bandleader towards the end of the show and Carolyne taught at some point that he was the atalaku (Arafat) in Obligatoire.