Author Topic: If Adolphe was American then he had to pay Dallas for using their instrumental  (Read 7131 times)

mvulusi96 on: August 30, 2019, 00:15

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Tata Nkiadi #1 on: August 30, 2019, 00:28

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Very doubtful. The first two notes sound similar but that’s about it. In Tata’s version the second note extends to the next measure whereas in the Dallas version the first measure only has quarter notes. Plus it’s in French. I’d put my money on it being composed in France and subjected to French laws because the English version is TOTALLY different.
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Matebu #2 on: August 30, 2019, 00:34

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Ah, the only Adolphe/Wenge Tonya Tonya album with good sound.

Powerful album. Washington «l’animateur qui contrôle la terre»

Wenge1995 #3 on: August 30, 2019, 00:47

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American copyright law is set by precedent and with the recent ruling against Pharrell Williams with Blurred Lines, this song would be held liable for copyright infringment. Despite the similarities, Wenge Tonya Tonya expands on that rhythm with a dynamic guitar solo and drum passage, but the underlying melody is still very similar.

That's all it took to get Pharrell to pay a settlement to Marvin Gaye's family, because the court ruled the foundational melody to be similar between their songs; both use cowbells and a generic 70s funk beat.





Personally, I believe that the similarities between Dallas theme song and Wenge Tonya Tonya's generique is entirely by chance. I doubt they even know what Dallas is, I barely do and I live in America lol

Matebu #4 on: August 30, 2019, 00:51

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Quote from: Wenge1995 link=topic=16398.msg73619#msg73619 date=
Personally, I believe that the similarities between Dallas theme song and Wenge Tonya Tonya's generique is entirely by chance. I doubt they even know what Dallas is, I barely do and I live in America lol

Haha, you just admitted you’re too young. Back in the day Congolese were extremely obsessed with Dallas. It was a decades old phenomenon. This was intended

Wenge1995 #5 on: August 30, 2019, 01:16

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Dallas was well before my time, I'm twenty-three kiekie! Lol

congo-243 #6 on: August 30, 2019, 01:19

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Never heard listened to Mouna, should i give it a try?

Matebu #7 on: August 30, 2019, 01:23

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Never heard listened to Mouna, should i give it a try?

Most definitely, catch while it’s still on streaming. Adolphe is weird about keeping his catalog on streaming. Always disappearing

congo-243 #8 on: August 30, 2019, 01:27

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Never heard listened to Mouna, should i give it a try?

Most definitely, catch while it’s still on streaming. Adolphe is weird about keeping his catalog on streaming. Always disappearing
I will do. I remember affaire Tonya Tonya being available and then boom..deleted. Why does he do that it could benefit him in some way

Tata Nkiadi #9 on: August 30, 2019, 01:52

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American copyright law is set by precedent and with the recent ruling against Pharrell Williams with Blurred Lines, this song would be held liable for copyright infringment. Despite the similarities, Wenge Tonya Tonya expands on that rhythm with a dynamic guitar solo and drum passage, but the underlying melody is still very similar.

That case was bullshit decided by people who don’t compose music or familiar with music law. You can’t copyright a groove or a rhythm. Copyright cases are normally decided by similarities between melodies.

Tata Nkiadi #10 on: August 30, 2019, 01:59

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Ah, the only Adolphe/Wenge Tonya Tonya album with good sound.

Powerful album. Washington «l’animateur qui contrôle la terre»

I STILL rock that album til this day! Lacoste and Shella Mputu shined on that record. And the bass line in Rami is insane. It was so underrated and buried underneath the BCBG/WMM wars back then. Classic Adolphe for sure.

Wenge1995 #11 on: August 30, 2019, 03:40

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Those lawyers are very sophiaticated; he used an interview Pharrell made about the song against him as evidence to prove that that he knowingly plagiarized Marvin Gaye's song.

 

What Pharrell actually said in the interview is that he wanted to channel the style of Marvin Gaye from 1970s into a modern song, but no specific song was a main influence. He just listened to a lot of material from that decade which inspired him. But the lawyer is rereading that interview to Pharrell out of context so that he can get illicit an admission of wrongdoing.

An example of American music copyright law could rule that JB Mpiana would have to pay a sizable settlement to Tshala Muana for the song "RDC" since it samples one of her classic records.




Same applies to Fally Ipupa (2:45 second mark) , by American standards he infringes on copyright protection by the unauthorized use of that OK Jazz song.





You can see how quickly things can get out of hand...

Tata Nkiadi #12 on: August 30, 2019, 04:50

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Indeed! Congolese are the worst infringers. The irony is that they don’t view it as stealing but as a way to pesa respect ya ba artistes.

Sad to say, Lokuta Monene is one of my favorite OK Jazz songs. Actually, every OK Jazz song to dedicated to Mobutu/MPR are some of my favorites.

Manzambi94 #13 on: August 30, 2019, 09:34

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from 6:23 min


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/08/01/arts/katy-perry-dark-horse-suit.amp.html







Adolphe is lucky to be Congolese, Katy Perry will pat 2.8 milion for copyright towards a song by Flame called Joyful Noise that she presented as Dark Horse





Wow 4.3 milion against 2.6 bilion. See that is exactly how White Americans were stealing things from black American and 2.8 milion honestly is too much little for how the song have performed and what have generated


616 milion streams against 3.8 milions. God these things make me so angry!!!!!!








Tata Nkiadi #14 on: August 30, 2019, 12:49

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@Wenge 1995

Adolphe would not be sued if he was American because those two songs have different melodies.  Katy Perry on the otherhand, the melodies are EXACTLY identical.  Flame deserved to win that lawsuit.  The copyright infringement is very clear.  Katy Perry used to be a Christian artist and Flame are Christian artists so you can easily see how she got their song and drew so much inspiration from it that she copied the melody note for note.