Author Topic: This song of Adolphe Dominguez, is not written by him, it looks like  (Read 7914 times)

Pabloone71 on: October 21, 2019, 07:59

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Given the way that this Adolphe Dominguez, it seems that his colleagues or Wenge, help in writing this beautiful song, or maybe it's Bogus Bopema, I can believe that he wrote and give songs to all Wenge members (like Werra, JB ...).
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archos #1 on: October 21, 2019, 09:00

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Voyage  is pascal poba i think but bogus did give some songs to tata and so did kibens

Pabloone71 #2 on: October 21, 2019, 09:22

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Voyage  is pascal poba i think but bogus did give some songs to tata and so did kibens

Ah thank you Archos, Pascal Poba also existed at that time, it is a good poet of proverbs, it will be said. Jules Kibens also existed at that time, but I find it odd that, for example, Kibens began his BCBG career after Wenge's separation, it's like Bogus Bopema. I could say that he could even  to go Wenge Musica already since all these times at least could try their luck (like Manda Chante, Alain Mpela .. especially Aimelia)
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Pabloone71 #3 on: October 21, 2019, 09:29

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Not to mention Alain Mpela wrote songs for Werra in Wenge for the song Nicky D

Do Akongo specially wrote songs for Werra, recording a song in a cassette (Eboa Lotin also sang)

archos #4 on: October 21, 2019, 12:23

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Kibens would be in wenge 4x4 if not for his family,and he went to brazza and jb werra adolphe blaise were buying him ticket to come back to kin to give songs 
jb also tried to get bogus into 4X4 but he preferred trying solo career before he ended up convinced to join viva

Pabloone71 #5 on: October 21, 2019, 18:54

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Kibens would be in wenge 4x4 if not for his family,and he went to brazza and jb werra adolphe blaise were buying him ticket to come back to kin to give songs 
jb also tried to get bogus into 4X4 but he preferred trying solo career before he ended up convinced to join viva
But for Bogus Bompema?

Pabloone71 #6 on: October 21, 2019, 18:59

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Was the album Kalayi Boeing only successful in Belgium (at Brussels), before it could make the success (in CD compilation produced by Ngoyarto)?

The same CD-vinyl was not sold in Kin-Africa, that in Europe, Martinique...
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Kibens would be in wenge 4x4 if not for his family,and he went to brazza and jb werra adolphe blaise were buying him ticket to come back to kin to give songs 
jb also tried to get bogus into 4X4 but he preferred trying solo career before he ended up convinced to join viva
But for Bogus Bompema?

Bogus preferred recording an album rather than join wenge 4X4 and while he was recording he got contacted to join viva and took some songs of his album there and took the rest to bcbg later

mvulusi96 #8 on: October 21, 2019, 21:21

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Was the album Kalayi Boeing only successful in Belgium (at Brussels), before it could make the success (in CD compilation produced by Ngoyarto)?

The same CD-vinyl was not sold in Kin-Africa, that in Europe, Martinique...

The Ngoyarto-version was released somewhere in 1997/98. Ngoyarto only used to release compilation-albums of Vinyls who became very rare, best of hits and albums who weren't anymore on the martket.

Kalayi Boeing was produced by Willy Beya who distributed the album in Europe (Paris, Brussels, Geneva & London) were Congolese people used to have shops. Editions Veve (Verckys Kiamuangana's label) did the distribution in Zaire and Africa, but it got pirated very hard like all other albums of that era. Kalayi Boeing was a huge succes in Africa, Zaire and the French West Indies. It  confirmed their succes in Africa after the succes of Kin E Bouge and it made them tour in alot of African countries, getting contracts for USA, Canada and Europe.

I think that Kalayi Boeing was Wenge 4x4 biggest succes in Africa, because alot of bands in Africa (Ivory Coast, Senegal, Tanzania, etc.) copied their chorus. A good example is the song Sabina of the Mapouka-group Les Youle.


Pabloone71 #9 on: October 21, 2019, 21:27

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Was the album Kalayi Boeing only successful in Belgium (at Brussels), before it could make the success (in CD compilation produced by Ngoyarto)?

The same CD-vinyl was not sold in Kin-Africa, that in Europe, Martinique...

The Ngoyarto-version was released somewhere in 1997/98. Ngoyarto only used to release compilation-albums of Vinyls who became very rare, best of hits and albums who weren't anymore on the martket.

Kalayi Boeing was produced by Willy Beya who distributed the album in Europe (Paris, Brussels, Geneva & London) were Congolese people used to have shops. Editions Veve (Verckys Kiamuangana's label) did the distribution in Zaire and Africa, but it got pirated very hard like all other albums of that era. Kalayi Boeing was a huge succes in Africa, Zaire and the French West Indies. It  confirmed their succes in Africa after the succes of Kin E Bouge and it made them tour in alot of African countries, getting contracts for USA, Canada and Europe.

I think that Kalayi Boeing was Wenge 4x4 biggest succes in Africa, because alot of bands in Africa (Ivory Coast, Senegal, Tanzania, etc.) copied their chorus. A good example is the song Sabina of the Mapouka-group Les Youle.



That's exactly what I meant by W.I.B.E Production.

Pabloone71 #10 on: October 21, 2019, 21:30

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Was the album Kalayi Boeing only successful in Belgium (at Brussels), before it could make the success (in CD compilation produced by Ngoyarto)?

The same CD-vinyl was not sold in Kin-Africa, that in Europe, Martinique...

The Ngoyarto-version was released somewhere in 1997/98. Ngoyarto only used to release compilation-albums of Vinyls who became very rare, best of hits and albums who weren't anymore on the martket.

Kalayi Boeing was produced by Willy Beya who distributed the album in Europe (Paris, Brussels, Geneva & London) were Congolese people used to have shops. Editions Veve (Verckys Kiamuangana's label) did the distribution in Zaire and Africa, but it got pirated very hard like all other albums of that era. Kalayi Boeing was a huge succes in Africa, Zaire and the French West Indies. It  confirmed their succes in Africa after the succes of Kin E Bouge and it made them tour in alot of African countries, getting contracts for USA, Canada and Europe.

I think that Kalayi Boeing was Wenge 4x4 biggest succes in Africa, because alot of bands in Africa (Ivory Coast, Senegal, Tanzania, etc.) copied their chorus. A good example is the song Sabina of the Mapouka-group Les Youle.


Like the production Maitre Imbuma for Les Editions Plus De Paris "Ecurie Leopards" also publishes 80's albums only as for Zaiko Langa Langa, Viva La Musica ....
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dany #11 on: October 22, 2019, 12:31

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Kalayi Boeing had a bigger impact and influence than Kin E bouge. This album truly cemented Wenge's legacy as a formidable band across Africa. Prior to Kalayi Boeing Wenge Musica was somewhat of a band only confined to central Africa and some parts of West  Africa but after Kalayi boeing the band truly crossed over. I remember the Christmas of 1993 Kalayi boeing was playing in every Bar and house party in Kisumu

Pabloone71 #12 on: October 22, 2019, 12:40

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Kalayi Boeing was released for the happy new year 1993 in vinyl.


JB had locks, its themselves sees very good on this disk.


Its registered in 1992 it looks like, at Studio Carabes, for mixing 32 Pistes Digital.

It's been over 1 years or 2 years (for the album Kin E Bouge, i believe) that they staying in Brussels it looks like but they could do some tricks (to Paris, return to Kinshasa etc.)


Adolphe Dominguez, he resemble my cousin, hahahaha 37:39 min.

Werrason speaks like an Ivorian in French hahaha ... 38:00 min
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mvulusi96 #13 on: October 22, 2019, 16:39

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Kalayi Boeing was released for the happy new year 1993 in vinyl.


JB had locks, its themselves sees very good on this disk.


Its registered in 1992 it looks like, at Studio Carabes, for mixing 32 Pistes Digital.

It's been over 1 years or 2 years (for the album Kin E Bouge, i believe) that they staying in Brussels it looks like but they could do some tricks (to Paris, return to Kinshasa etc.)


Adolphe Dominguez, he resemble my cousin, hahahaha 37:39 min.

Werrason speaks like an Ivorian in French hahaha ... 38:00 min

Kalayi Boeing was not only relased on vinyl. It was also released in CD and Cassette. The CD sold the most, because then most people had already moved on using CD's and they used Cassette's more than vinyl.

JB Mpiana had then the haircut of rapper Criss-Cross (RIP) when he came back in Kinshasa, alot of youngster in Kinshasa started to do the Cris-Cross haircut. But JB Mpiana went to cut his hair not long after that.

Wenge Musica released Kin E Bouge in the spring of 1991. They spent like 1 year in Kinshasa, touring then also to some African countries and some cities of Zaire (Mbuji Mayi, Lubumbasi,..). Then somewhere in June 1992 they came to an Europe-tour with their concert at La Madeleine in Brussels being the first concert (it was seen as a big event in Kinshasa, JB Mpiana talked about it towards the end of the song Voyage Mboso). then they performed also in Paris, London, Geneva, some Belgian,  German and French cities. In meantime they recorded Kalayi Boeing & Pleins Feux (which didn't come on the market because of a conflict with Kongolo Mobutu, it came 4 years later on the market when they came for the recordings of Feux de l'Amour. It was said that when a lot of Vinyl, Cd's and cassettes of Pleins Feux came to Kinshasa, Kongolo Mobutu took it and all seized it). They also performed on a festival in France which was broadcasted on the French nationaltelevision channel TF1 (the image are very are) which is seen is one of biggest achievement of Wenge 4x4 and they performed at Clarigde in Brussels on the same stage with the mythic caraiben band Kassav (a fara-fara concert) having then Nyoka Longo & Nono Monzuluku as guest (the concert is on youtube). The fara-fara concert with Kassav made people in Zaire respect Wenge 4x4 even more, since that Kassav was a big band having filled many stadiums in Africa and West Indies, having mutiple platina albums and hits in their pocket. They spent like 3 months in Europe and then came back to Kinshasa, but then started to have a hard time because of Wenge Aile Paris trying to mess up their big events. For example when they came in Bandal after the tour Marie Paul came with mystical powers steal all the public, the same thing happened when they performed at Nsele. It started to fustrate them, so they went to record the song "Le Monde est Mechant" in Brazzaville which was a strong attack towards Marie Paul and also like a reponse to his his "Bako Juger". Shortly after that Manda Chante decided to leave and went to join Wenge Aile Paris, he was suspecting then JB Mpiana for wanting to sacrifice him, since that he started have health issue when they toured in Europe. From then a big episode started of Manda Chante wanting to get his passeport back from Wenge 4x4 to join Wenge Aile Paris in Paris and Kongolo Mobutu (who was like Aile Paris's manager) becoming furious and doing all those things we know to Mbuta Kisolokele, Adolphe and Mpela lol, Werrason then making it worser by provocking Kongolo by doing the victory-sign during the spot of their concert at Palais du Peuple. It made Kongolo even more furious and sent soldiers to interrupt Wenge 4x4's concert at Palais du Peuple with tear gas. So from that moment Manda Chante could finally get his passeport back and went to join Wenge Aile Paris and Wenge 4x4 on their turn continuing with performing and recruiting Tutu Calugi and Aimelia Lias as replacer of Manda Chante and later on reconciled with Kongolo Mobutu.



Pabloone71 #14 on: October 22, 2019, 18:43

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Kalayi Boeing was released for the happy new year 1993 in vinyl.


JB had locks, its themselves sees very good on this disk.


Its registered in 1992 it looks like, at Studio Carabes, for mixing 32 Pistes Digital.

It's been over 1 years or 2 years (for the album Kin E Bouge, i believe) that they staying in Brussels it looks like but they could do some tricks (to Paris, return to Kinshasa etc.)


Adolphe Dominguez, he resemble my cousin, hahahaha 37:39 min.

Werrason speaks like an Ivorian in French hahaha ... 38:00 min

Kalayi Boeing was not only relased on vinyl. It was also released in CD and Cassette. The CD sold the most, because then most people had already moved on using CD's and they used Cassette's more than vinyl.

JB Mpiana had then the haircut of rapper Criss-Cross (RIP) when he came back in Kinshasa, alot of youngster in Kinshasa started to do the Cris-Cross haircut. But JB Mpiana went to cut his hair not long after that.

Wenge Musica released Kin E Bouge in the spring of 1991. They spent like 1 year in Kinshasa, touring then also to some African countries and some cities of Zaire (Mbuji Mayi, Lubumbasi,..). Then somewhere in June 1992 they came to an Europe-tour with their concert at La Madeleine in Brussels being the first concert (it was seen as a big event in Kinshasa, JB Mpiana talked about it towards the end of the song Voyage Mboso). then they performed also in Paris, London, Geneva, some Belgian,  German and French cities. In meantime they recorded Kalayi Boeing & Pleins Feux (which didn't come on the market because of a conflict with Kongolo Mobutu, it came 4 years later on the market when they came for the recordings of Feux de l'Amour. It was said that when a lot of Vinyl, Cd's and cassettes of Pleins Feux came to Kinshasa, Kongolo Mobutu took it and all seized it). They also performed on a festival in France which was broadcasted on the French nationaltelevision channel TF1 (the image are very are) which is seen is one of biggest achievement of Wenge 4x4 and they performed at Clarigde in Brussels on the same stage with the mythic caraiben band Kassav (a fara-fara concert) having then Nyoka Longo & Nono Monzuluku as guest (the concert is on youtube). The fara-fara concert with Kassav made people in Zaire respect Wenge 4x4 even more, since that Kassav was a big band having filled many stadiums in Africa and West Indies, having mutiple platina albums and hits in their pocket. They spent like 3 months in Europe and then came back to Kinshasa, but then started to have a hard time because of Wenge Aile Paris trying to mess up their big events. For example when they came in Bandal after the tour Marie Paul came with mystical powers steal all the public, the same thing happened when they performed at Nsele. It started to fustrate them, so they went to record the song "Le Monde est Mechant" in Brazzaville which was a strong attack towards Marie Paul and also like a reponse to his his "Bako Juger". Shortly after that Manda Chante decided to leave and went to join Wenge Aile Paris, he was suspecting then JB Mpiana for wanting to sacrifice him, since that he started have health issue when they toured in Europe. From then a big episode started of Manda Chante wanting to get his passeport back from Wenge 4x4 to join Wenge Aile Paris in Paris and Kongolo Mobutu (who was like Aile Paris's manager) becoming furious and doing all those things we know to Mbuta Kisolokele, Adolphe and Mpela lol, Werrason then making it worser by provocking Kongolo by doing the victory-sign during the spot of their concert at Palais du Peuple. It made Kongolo even more furious and sent soldiers to interrupt Wenge 4x4's concert at Palais du Peuple with tear gas. So from that moment Manda Chante could finally get his passeport back and went to join Wenge Aile Paris and Wenge 4x4 on their turn continuing with performing and recruiting Tutu Calugi and Aimelia Lias as replacer of Manda Chante and later on reconciled with Kongolo Mobutu.

But why Wenge after the recordings from up to the album Kin E Bouge that he distanced himself with Kongolo Mobutu "Saddam Hussein" and with Marie Paul Kambulu when they stayed in France with Riccoco, Zing Zong... and he created Wenge Musica Aile Paris?
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