Author Topic: Was it a Mistake for Ferré to join QL?  (Read 26404 times)

congo-243 #15 on: April 21, 2020, 00:30

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So if I'm reading all of this even the alleged part about Werra being behind it. Is there ever a possibility of Ferre & Werra not beefing anymore? Or did it go to far for it to be resolved.

Mfumu Vata #16 on: April 21, 2020, 00:50

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But why did Werra then join Bralima if he used Zacle & Bracongo ? Because it was said that Werrason was furious to hear that Bill signed a better contract with Bracongo then him.


archos #17 on: April 21, 2020, 01:07

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the big 4 needed to make les marquis split so even if they had conflict between themselves they had "mpimpa" discussions on how to eliminate their threat so they used zacle on a mission to go to europe and approach bill knowing bill left maison mere because he was denied a little personal deal and how he never got money destined to him by skol admins,and knowing he was the most hot headed of them
it was also good for zacle who would get a percentage of bill's deal then nsone got absolutely furious because the plan was just that bill gets something " decent" to satisfy him, but when bill was given that deal which made him straight away go from a house rent guy to one house for his parents,two for himself while they were stalling on renewal with werra for 6 months and gave to bill what werra wanted and which they were saying was too much nsone felt humiliated
by the time skol changed one of his european directors,nsone had made up his mind too much so primus jumped on the occasion and since nsone came with rage to primus he got within months three renewals to end  up on par with jb
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Mfumu Vata #18 on: April 21, 2020, 01:09

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When you guys say spiritually what do you mean? And can you be more specific? Because you always talk about spiritual stuff but it is hard to understand and if Ferre got attacked "spiritually" how could him and the others (Bill, JDT etc.) protect theirself?

Anyway. All the people saying no are crazy.


You are broke and the biggest musician of your country offer you a 20.00 dollar contract. What wi you do at his place? I am a Maison Mere fan? Yes. But sometimes Maison Mere Fans are acting like Hooligans and ignorant people. All the first generation guys in Wenge MMM in interviews always say one thing. "I would have never left Wenge". But they left not because they wanted but because Werra forced them out which was good.in the short.run but ended up turning a disaster 20 years later, kicking members out consistently give Fally the free pass to dominate Congolese music amd Ferre is the only one contrasting Fally, Fabregas had only two hits Ya Mado and Zigida, Heritier got only 2 or 3 rhumbas to stick and so on and Robinio is making views but he never release material who is legendary. The only guy contrasting Fally seriously is Innoss'B and if Werra never made that system Wenge would still be top.

Ferre did great to accept QL offer he wouldn't be who he is if he didn't

I don’t know what JDT & Bill were doing to protect themselves. But for the little fame Bill had in his solo career from 2005 to ‘08. He used to go to graveyards for mystical prayers and having sex with dead corpses in order to get big crowded concerts. They once caught him doing that and a newspaper wrote about that (but didn’t create buzz) and Prince exposed him about that in Sous Sol.

I remember him wearing a T-shirt with 666 being written on his back and a Skull with bones during his first Skol concert and DVD title being "Je suis votre maître" or something like that, the DVD cover was a little bit scary. The concert used to be on YouTube.

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Mfumu Vata #19 on: April 21, 2020, 01:17

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the big 4 needed to make les marquis split so even if they had conflict between themselves they had "mpimpa" discussions on how to eliminate their threat so they used zacle on a mission to go to europe and approach bill knowing bill left maison mere because he was denied a little personal deal and how he never got money destined to him by skol admins,and knowing he was the most hot headed of them
it was also good for zacle who would get a percentage of bill's deal then nsone got absolutely furious because the plan was just that bill gets something " decent" to satisfy him, but when bill was given that deal which made him straight away go from a house rent guy to one house for his parents,two for himself while they were stalling on renewal with werra for 6 months and gave to bill what werra wanted and which they were saying was too much nsone felt humiliated
by the time skol changed one of his european directors,nsone had made up his mind too much so primus jumped on the occasion and since nsone came with rage to primus he got within months three renewals to end  up on par with jb

Faux calcul on the end from Skol. Because when Werrason joined Bralima, Bracongo lost his position as number one market share in DRC, after being it for more than +20 years.

congo-243 #20 on: April 21, 2020, 01:22

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the big 4 needed to make les marquis split so even if they had conflict between themselves they had "mpimpa" discussions on how to eliminate their threat so they used zacle on a mission to go to europe and approach bill knowing bill left maison mere because he was denied a little personal deal and how he never got money destined to him by skol admins,and knowing he was the most hot headed of them
it was also good for zacle who would get a percentage of bill's deal then nsone got absolutely furious because the plan was just that bill gets something " decent" to satisfy him, but when bill was given that deal which made him straight away go from a house rent guy to one house for his parents,two for himself while they were stalling on renewal with werra for 6 months and gave to bill what werra wanted and which they were saying was too much nsone felt humiliated
by the time skol changed one of his european directors,nsone had made up his mind too much so primus jumped on the occasion and since nsone came with rage to primus he got within months three renewals to end  up on par with jb
So the big 4 are all behind Les Marquis breaking up? Wow. is it true that they put nkisi on albums, so it don't succeed?
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congo-243 #21 on: April 21, 2020, 01:57

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When you guys say spiritually what do you mean? And can you be more specific? Because you always talk about spiritual stuff but it is hard to understand and if Ferre got attacked "spiritually" how could him and the others (Bill, JDT etc.) protect theirself?

Anyway. All the people saying no are crazy.


You are broke and the biggest musician of your country offer you a 20.00 dollar contract. What wi you do at his place? I am a Maison Mere fan? Yes. But sometimes Maison Mere Fans are acting like Hooligans and ignorant people. All the first generation guys in Wenge MMM in interviews always say one thing. "I would have never left Wenge". But they left not because they wanted but because Werra forced them out which was good.in the short.run but ended up turning a disaster 20 years later, kicking members out consistently give Fally the free pass to dominate Congolese music amd Ferre is the only one contrasting Fally, Fabregas had only two hits Ya Mado and Zigida, Heritier got only 2 or 3 rhumbas to stick and so on and Robinio is making views but he never release material who is legendary. The only guy contrasting Fally seriously is Innoss'B and if Werra never made that system Wenge would still be top.

Ferre did great to accept QL offer he wouldn't be who he is if he didn't

I don’t know what JDT & Bill were doing to protect themselves. But for the little fame Bill had in his solo career from 2005 to ‘08. He used to go to graveyards for mystical prayers and having sex with dead corpses in order to get big crowded concerts. They once caught him doing that and a newspaper wrote about that (but didn’t create buzz) and Prince exposed him about that in Sous Sol.

I remember him wearing a T-shirt with 666 being written on his back and a Skull with bones during his first Skol concert and DVD title being "Je suis votre maître" or something like that, the DVD cover was a little bit scary. The concert used to be on YouTube.
Ezalaki n'a parti nini when Prince Exposes Bill?

litho #22 on: April 21, 2020, 02:06

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Kisi ezalaka te na music, moto okosa bino te.
bondimela ngai.

congo-243 #23 on: April 21, 2020, 02:07

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Always thought this cover was bit weird

Paysan Congolais #24 on: April 21, 2020, 05:15

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Kisi ezalaka te na music, moto okosa bino te.
bondimela ngai.

Kisi eza na bisika nionso, ko banda na mizik ti na mombongo ti na politki. Ba kosa yo te.

Wenge1995 #25 on: April 21, 2020, 08:14

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@Mfumu Vata

Mukusa Ya Mbwa did something similar as well, if I'm not mistaken. I always thought those were crazy rumors to promote their albums, but if this is actually true then I'm completely disgusted.

Aren't they worried about disease? Are we talking about decaying bodies or freshly dead? Not that it makes too much of a difference, both are unforgivable...

archos #26 on: April 21, 2020, 10:12

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last year shaka kongo had started recording hidden camera at cemetery to expose musicians coming to get dead bodies or the last drops of sweat of dead people to bath with or to drink but one minister called and threatened to send him to prison outside kinshasa which is much more difficult to get any intervention for,because the cameras would also spot politicians coming
bill and robinio were the last spotted  last year but they paid something to keep it from becoming viral,there is a whole business over there,female dancers coming to get pants of dead people to shine in concerts and many many other things,so the guys there  make a lot of money every week but their chiefs steal it from them only leaving them with congolese francs

masatomo #27 on: April 21, 2020, 10:57

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Kisi ezalaka te na music, moto okosa bino te.
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Man,  ozo rêver

Manzambi94 #28 on: April 21, 2020, 11:12

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When you guys say spiritually what do you mean? And can you be more specific? Because you always talk about spiritual stuff but it is hard to understand and if Ferre got attacked "spiritually" how could him and the others (Bill, JDT etc.) protect theirself?

Anyway. All the people saying no are crazy.


You are broke and the biggest musician of your country offer you a 20.00 dollar contract. What wi you do at his place? I am a Maison Mere fan? Yes. But sometimes Maison Mere Fans are acting like Hooligans and ignorant people. All the first generation guys in Wenge MMM in interviews always say one thing. "I would have never left Wenge". But they left not because they wanted but because Werra forced them out which was good.in the short.run but ended up turning a disaster 20 years later, kicking members out consistently give Fally the free pass to dominate Congolese music amd Ferre is the only one contrasting Fally, Fabregas had only two hits Ya Mado and Zigida, Heritier got only 2 or 3 rhumbas to stick and so on and Robinio is making views but he never release material who is legendary. The only guy contrasting Fally seriously is Innoss'B and if Werra never made that system Wenge would still be top.

Ferre did great to accept QL offer he wouldn't be who he is if he didn't

I don’t know what JDT & Bill were doing to protect themselves. But for the little fame Bill had in his solo career from 2005 to ‘08. He used to go to graveyards for mystical prayers and having sex with dead corpses in order to get big crowded concerts. They once caught him doing that and a newspaper wrote about that (but didn’t create buzz) and Prince exposed him about that in Sous Sol.

I remember him wearing a T-shirt with 666 being written on his back and a Skull with bones during his first Skol concert and DVD title being "Je suis votre maître" or something like that, the DVD cover was a little bit scary. The concert used to be on YouTube.
Ezalaki n'a parti nini when Prince Exposes Bill?


Woooooooow it is expises Bill at right after Brigade so it was well put togheter
11:42





Basically I don't understand much because he speak to fast at the beginning but at certain point he says mutu na yo ya mbua (your head is a dog head) and some other things I can't hear well then he says Demon eh zonga na zamba e wich means demons go back to the jungle. But I Don't understand the while crie but is evident now with the infirmations that it is about Bill
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Mfumu Vata #29 on: April 21, 2020, 11:19

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@Mfumu Vata

Mukusa Ya Mbwa did something similar as well, if I'm not mistaken. I always thought those were crazy rumors to promote their albums, but if this is actually true then I'm completely disgusted.

Aren't they worried about disease? Are we talking about decaying bodies or freshly dead? Not that it makes too much of a difference, both are unforgivable...

Fresly dead. They go to the mortuary and pay the people who work there to get those corpses and have sex with it at home or at a temples and give it back later or dump it somewhere. Big bandleaders often do it when they are about to have a big event in Europe or an important concert in Kinshasa. They also get sometimes babies to do weird stuff with it, Zobozi once exposed them about that.