In his interview this year, Caludji said that when the return to Kinshasa after a long Pentagon Europe tour , they found that Kibinda Nkoy was very popular dance and Wenge had to find a style to counter it. Werrason summoned Caludji and direct him to find a cry and a style that will minimise the influence of Kibinda Nkoy. That is when Caludji brought. Werason has also been claiming to be the creator of Ndombolo, but that May be is a result of him asking Caludji to create a dance and possibly Caludji could have take it to Werra before presented to the band. In that interview Caludji also said that Werra was the band chief strategists and even Pentagon was his idea.