Author Topic: PEPE KALLE'S ROGER MILLA HAD TWO DANCES LOOKING LIKE RECENT TRENDING ONES  (Read 4407 times)

archos on: July 10, 2020, 16:30

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around 4 30 djuna doing a dance looking like fally's leg dance,jolie bebe doing around 4 40 that dance in yo pe

Cavalier Solitaire #1 on: July 12, 2020, 08:49

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You are right @Archos. No wonder Ado Yuhe says bino ba musician boyokisa ngai mutu pasi, mais na kokoma livre. :D.
 So the cri "koyimbi ko" was from a whole song done by Grande Maitre Franco.

Franco Pepe Kalle #2 on: July 12, 2020, 14:58

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Roger Milla made Pepe Kalle the legend that he was destined to be. There is no question. I became a fanatic of Pepe Kalle due to this classic soukous song.

Mfumu Vata #3 on: July 12, 2020, 16:30

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You are right @Archos. No wonder Ado Yuhe says bino ba musician boyokisa ngai mutu pasi, mais na kokoma livre. :D.
 So the cri "koyimbi ko" was from a whole song done by Grande Maitre Franco.


Koyimbi-Ko is a traditional song of the Kongo-tribe, coming from the Bantandu (the northern Bakongo next to Kinshasa, living in cities like Kisantu, Madimba & Kasangulu). It's about a Phoenix who kidnapped a child and the mother crying, asking to the Phoenix to give her child back. Franco would then later in 1958 record it on a disc (It's btw Franco's first song sung in Kikongo). The song was a huge succes, but Franco would get problems with the Belgian authorities and getting arrested. They saw the song as an attack to the colonization. Ko-yimbi would later be sung sometimes on the radio for children by people who used to the stories. It would also be used by those traditional Kongo-churches (like for example Mpeve ya Longo) to exorcise demons in people. Musicians would also use it (Evoloko for example and Wemba in Elongi ya Jesus), but it hadn't a big impact. It became a big impact when the cri/dance got presented at FIKIN 2001, the time that Werrason just released Kibuisa Mpimpa with the dance getting also succes in Europe when the clips got released having the famous rehearshal as bonus where the dance got danced. After that a polemic started between people coming from Brazzaville, being mad against those from Kinshasa. They claimed that they created it, which is partly true, because the dance came from there and Patrouilles des Stars being the first one to dance it in 2000 (calling it Bord na Bord). But they forgot that the cri, came was a traditional song and many people who don't do research or aren't from Mukongo of DRC don't know it.



Franco would song many old traditional Bakongo songs (songs like Lombola, Ma Nkewa, Mantale, Beno Bakongo Sika, Ku Kisantu Ku Kwenda Ko, Nsenga, Kizonzi Ki Tata Mbemba, etc.). Some songs were normal songs about his life, pain and the society (like Ya Mbala dedicated to rich Angolan Mukongo living in Kinshasa who was a donor of Abako and Vita Club, the song Kingotolo Mbuta Ngani Mbote where he asked the politican Antoine Kingotolo to chase all white people from Congo, songs like Kisiona, Kimpa Kisangameni, Mbongo Zi Ya Voni, Sansi Fina Ma Ngoma, etc.) but people would wrongly classified it as Bakongo folklore-songs, since that they don't understand the language.




Some songs that Franco sung in Kikongo would later be used in songs and cries.  a part of Luvumbu Ndoki (which made him being hardly beaten by Mobutu-soldiers and make him a Mobutist) would be used in the song of Muzangila from the 'L-album of Nouvelle Ecriture. Ya Mbala would be used as intro for the song Tchatcho Mbala of Wenge El Paris. Ma Nkewa would be used as cri by Kerozene in the generique Wanted of the PPU'sbut pronouced as Ya-Nkewa (The song is a tale about a young monkey who had hidden and been betrayed by his tail. The message of the song was no matter how good it is to hide somewhere, you always end up being exposed).

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Manzambi94 #4 on: July 12, 2020, 18:51

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2:03

Kimpa Kisangameni sang by Genta






Sang by Werra on Malembe




1:02

Likambo Ya Ngai Na Papa





I did know that Franco has a big influence in the Congolese music but I didn't knos that it was this much big, to be honest it is good that artist keeps singing his songs, because they actually making his memory alive.

Mfumu Vata #5 on: July 12, 2020, 21:07

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About songs who are inspired by Franco's songs sung in Kikongo, I can maybe mention Pon Boum Paka Bouge of Pepe Kalle & Silivi of Koffi Olomide. They have lines of the song Camp Luka that Franco released in 70's. The song is unfortunately not on YouTube. In the 70s, Franco dedicated a song to the people living in Camp Luka, singing in Kiyaka (which like a dialect of Kikongo). Back in those days, people living there were mostly Bayaka. Silivi had the lines "woo, woo, wooo" and the one of Pon Boum Paka Bouge having "awa na Camp Luka, tembe ezali ? tembe ezali te!". But I'm not sure if they really were inspired from that song Camp Luka, because it really something identic to Bayaka and those living in Camp Luka, having also other folklore songs with those lines.

Cavalier Solitaire #6 on: July 12, 2020, 21:20

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Great history @Mfumu Vata. I like the story of a monkey hiding and being discovered because of the tail. Lol...Grand Maitre Franco's influence on Congolese music is immense.

 I also realise bantu proverbs are more less universal. Colonialism really separated people who were the same.

litho #7 on: July 14, 2020, 05:57

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You are right @Archos. No wonder Ado Yuhe says bino ba musician boyokisa ngai mutu pasi, mais na kokoma livre. :D.
 So the cri "koyimbi ko" was from a whole song done by Grande Maitre Franco.


Koyimbi-Ko is a traditional song of the Kongo-tribe, coming from the Bantandu (the northern Bakongo next to Kinshasa, living in cities like Kisantu, Madimba & Kasangulu). It's about a Phoenix who kidnapped a child and the mother crying, asking to the Phoenix to give her child back. Franco would then later in 1958 record it on a disc (It's btw Franco's first song sung in Kikongo). The song was a huge succes, but Franco would get problems with the Belgian authorities and getting arrested. They saw the song as an attack to the colonization. Ko-yimbi would later be sung sometimes on the radio for children by people who used to the stories. It would also be used by those traditional Kongo-churches (like for example Mpeve ya Longo) to exorcise demons in people. Musicians would also use it (Evoloko for example and Wemba in Elongi ya Jesus), but it hadn't a big impact. It became a big impact when the cri/dance got presented at FIKIN 2001, the time that Werrason just released Kibuisa Mpimpa with the dance getting also succes in Europe when the clips got released having the famous rehearshal as bonus where the dance got danced. After that a polemic started between people coming from Brazzaville, being mad against those from Kinshasa. They claimed that they created it, which is partly true, because the dance came from there and Patrouilles des Stars being the first one to dance it in 2000 (calling it Bord na Bord). But they forgot that the cri, came was a traditional song and many people who don't do research or aren't from Mukongo of DRC don't know it.



Franco would song many old traditional Bakongo songs (songs like Lombola, Ma Nkewa, Mantale, Beno Bakongo Sika, Ku Kisantu Ku Kwenda Ko, Nsenga, Kizonzi Ki Tata Mbemba, etc.). Some songs were normal songs about his life, pain and the society (like Ya Mbala dedicated to rich Angolan Mukongo living in Kinshasa who was a donor of Abako and Vita Club, the song Kingotolo Mbuta Ngani Mbote where he asked the politican Antoine Kingotolo to chase all white people from Congo, songs like Kisiona, Kimpa Kisangameni, Mbongo Zi Ya Voni, Sansi Fina Ma Ngoma, etc.) but people would wrongly classified it as Bakongo folklore-songs, since that they don't understand the language.




Some songs that Franco sung in Kikongo would later be used in songs and cries.  a part of Luvumbu Ndoki (which made him being hardly beaten by Mobutu-soldiers and make him a Mobutist) would be used in the song of Muzangila from the 'L-album of Nouvelle Ecriture. Ya Mbala would be used as intro for the song Tchatcho Mbala of Wenge El Paris. Ma Nkewa would be used as cri by Kerozene in the generique Wanted of the PPU'sbut pronouced as Ya-Nkewa (The song is a tale about a young monkey who had hidden and been betrayed by his tail. The message of the song was no matter how good it is to hide somewhere, you always end up being exposed).



Respect, oyo tango nabiso. Merci pona lisolo kitoko masolo ya boyende tolingi.
Ya Mbala, yewana nde Mingiedi Mbala co-fondateur ya Vita Club?

Mfumu Vita, when Franco was alive I knew and most people thought he was Mukongo from Kongo Central but today he been present as Tetela from Kasai, do you know history behind that?