Author Topic: Spino la Djatence talking about his time in Quartier Latin & Wenge Tonya Tonya  (Read 4247 times)

Mfumu Vata on: October 29, 2020, 01:54

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Saying that Mustapha, Jordan Kusa and Ocean came to Bercy because of nkisi. (I also heard that story recently by a man who was close to Koffi, saying that if Mustapha lost his head it was not because of Gipson, but because of the strong nkisi he took for the trip where he went in the place of Chikito. Saying that using nkisi always has after years later with most people being being drunk-drunk or lose their head. Also adding that Koffi was confused when he saw Jordan Kusa in Paris when arriving a few days later after Quartier Latin, asking him what he was doing there, going in the place of Soleil Wanga and Ocean going in the place of Bizima Kondos of El Paris.)

He said that he left after the trip in Gabon, because of Koffi being jealous, not wanting to salute him there after that a woman who used direct a restaurant became his sidechick. I remember him saying years agothat it was because of Montana, gossping about to Koffi that he was wearing expensive clothes to challenge him.

Spino revealing that they hadn't a place to sleep towards the end of the Euope-tour when they came with Tonya Tonya in Europe. He said that he didn't know how to return in Kinshasa, because they hadn't received clothes from fans and any money from Adolphe Dominguez. Adding that Tabu Ley, who used to be his father in law, adviced him to stay in Europe and that he later influenced his collgues Chibida Dumbu, Ilus Matshuda and others to stay. After that he said that Didier Lacoste tried to form his band in Europe with Shella, but it didn't work and the money problems were apparently due to the tour-promoters running away with the money.

So Fiston Bass who used to play bass in Maison Mere and Tonya Tonya passed away ?


archos #1 on: October 29, 2020, 12:02

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mannn having to watch a fimbu na fimbu video lol  hahaha
about mustapha i remember papy deluxe mampata nephew who used to be with manda saying that he was the one who did spiritual preparation for mustapha and he did not say or make any allusion that it was something really strong
the jipson part happened after the start of struggles of academia,paparazzi also did not stay long due partly to such things
every big group had at least one guy like that always fighting people who can be potential threats
what a level of fanatism by ken,spino's interview just because  he praises efandjo which is something good  he puts as thumbnail picture of efandjo with mombaya stemay and whoever it is in the middle

CM PRINCE #2 on: October 29, 2020, 13:44

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Gibson indirectly admitted to Ado yuhe that he did nkisi on paparazz, because Koffi préférer him above Gibson, to the point that Koffi left Gibson behind in Kin for an African tour and brought Paparazzi instead and during a concert Paparazzi started to lose his voice suddenly and couldn’t go high in notes and Koffi called his staff to bring Gibson to join them.

So that story of Koffi being surprised to find Jordan in Europe is true then? Because a few former members said that they were surprised when Jordan’s name was announced for the list of Bercy.
Man looking back it would’ve been better if Chikito went to Bercy, Mustapha performed very well but he disappeared not long after so it was just a waste and obviously look at him now, it just wasn’t worth it.

Manzambi94 #3 on: October 29, 2020, 18:16

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Saying that Mustapha, Jordan Kusa and Ocean came to Bercy because of nkisi. (I also heard that story recently by a man who was close to Koffi, saying that if Mustapha lost his head it was not because of Gipson, but because of the strong nkisi he took for the trip where he went in the place of Chikito. Saying that using nkisi always has after years later with most people being being drunk-drunk or lose their head. Also adding that Koffi was confused when he saw Jordan Kusa in Paris when arriving a few days later after Quartier Latin, asking him what he was doing there, going in the place of Soleil Wanga and Ocean going in the place of Bizima Kondos of El Paris.)

He said that he left after the trip in Gabon, because of Koffi being jealous, not wanting to salute him there after that a woman who used direct a restaurant became his sidechick. I remember him saying years agothat it was because of Montana, gossping about to Koffi that he was wearing expensive clothes to challenge him.

Spino revealing that they hadn't a place to sleep towards the end of the Euope-tour when they came with Tonya Tonya in Europe. He said that he didn't know how to return in Kinshasa, because they hadn't received clothes from fans and any money from Adolphe Dominguez. Adding that Tabu Ley, who used to be his father in law, adviced him to stay in Europe and that he later influenced his collgues Chibida Dumbu, Ilus Matshuda and others to stay. After that he said that Didier Lacoste tried to form his band in Europe with Shella, but it didn't work and the money problems were apparently due to the tour-promoters running away with the money.

So Fiston Bass who used to play bass in Maison Mere and Tonya Tonya passed away ?

Maybe one of the reason why Ocean died this early? Who knows, anyway musician must stop with this spiritual attack thing it wouldn't be bad if it was for positive things like talking to the dead and your love ones (like Bill does) or something like that but to use it to send other people away when they deserved it it is bad, now that I recall I remember Sabena (ex Wenge Musica Maison Mère Atalakus kinda losing the voice in Diata Bawu)


@3:21 Til lthe 3:49 and again at 3:55 until at 4:21
and also sometimes hearing Brigade out of tune in his own cries while usually he used to nail them, anyway how can a leader be spiritually convinced that he must bring another guy instead of the deserving one, anyway back to Jordan, maybe that was the reason people didn't want to hold him when he tried to jump off the stage, it doesn't seem like it but even people who are not aware of this spirituality games just know

CM PRINCE #4 on: October 29, 2020, 18:56

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Saying that Mustapha, Jordan Kusa and Ocean came to Bercy because of nkisi. (I also heard that story recently by a man who was close to Koffi, saying that if Mustapha lost his head it was not because of Gipson, but because of the strong nkisi he took for the trip where he went in the place of Chikito. Saying that using nkisi always has after years later with most people being being drunk-drunk or lose their head. Also adding that Koffi was confused when he saw Jordan Kusa in Paris when arriving a few days later after Quartier Latin, asking him what he was doing there, going in the place of Soleil Wanga and Ocean going in the place of Bizima Kondos of El Paris.)

He said that he left after the trip in Gabon, because of Koffi being jealous, not wanting to salute him there after that a woman who used direct a restaurant became his sidechick. I remember him saying years agothat it was because of Montana, gossping about to Koffi that he was wearing expensive clothes to challenge him.

Spino revealing that they hadn't a place to sleep towards the end of the Euope-tour when they came with Tonya Tonya in Europe. He said that he didn't know how to return in Kinshasa, because they hadn't received clothes from fans and any money from Adolphe Dominguez. Adding that Tabu Ley, who used to be his father in law, adviced him to stay in Europe and that he later influenced his collgues Chibida Dumbu, Ilus Matshuda and others to stay. After that he said that Didier Lacoste tried to form his band in Europe with Shella, but it didn't work and the money problems were apparently due to the tour-promoters running away with the money.

So Fiston Bass who used to play bass in Maison Mere and Tonya Tonya passed away ?

Maybe one of the reason why Ocean died this early? Who knows, anyway musician must stop with this spiritual attack thing it wouldn't be bad if it was for positive things like talking to the dead and your love ones (like Bill does) or something like that but to use it to send other people away when they deserved it it is bad, now that I recall I remember Sabena (ex Wenge Musica Maison Mère Atalakus kinda losing the voice in Diata Bawu)
Come on man this was more than 20 years ago, Ocean died because it was just his time. God called for his return, it has nothing to do with spiritual reasons.

Monsieur Congo #5 on: October 29, 2020, 19:00

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Saying that Mustapha, Jordan Kusa and Ocean came to Bercy because of nkisi. (I also heard that story recently by a man who was close to Koffi, saying that if Mustapha lost his head it was not because of Gipson, but because of the strong nkisi he took for the trip where he went in the place of Chikito. Saying that using nkisi always has after years later with most people being being drunk-drunk or lose their head. Also adding that Koffi was confused when he saw Jordan Kusa in Paris when arriving a few days later after Quartier Latin, asking him what he was doing there, going in the place of Soleil Wanga and Ocean going in the place of Bizima Kondos of El Paris.)

He said that he left after the trip in Gabon, because of Koffi being jealous, not wanting to salute him there after that a woman who used direct a restaurant became his sidechick. I remember him saying years agothat it was because of Montana, gossping about to Koffi that he was wearing expensive clothes to challenge him.

Spino revealing that they hadn't a place to sleep towards the end of the Euope-tour when they came with Tonya Tonya in Europe. He said that he didn't know how to return in Kinshasa, because they hadn't received clothes from fans and any money from Adolphe Dominguez. Adding that Tabu Ley, who used to be his father in law, adviced him to stay in Europe and that he later influenced his collgues Chibida Dumbu, Ilus Matshuda and others to stay. After that he said that Didier Lacoste tried to form his band in Europe with Shella, but it didn't work and the money problems were apparently due to the tour-promoters running away with the money.

So Fiston Bass who used to play bass in Maison Mere and Tonya Tonya passed away ?

Maybe one of the reason why Ocean died this early? Who knows, anyway musician must stop with this spiritual attack thing it wouldn't be bad if it was for positive things like talking to the dead and your love ones (like Bill does) or something like that but to use it to send other people away when they deserved it it is bad, now that I recall I remember Sabena (ex Wenge Musica Maison Mère Atalakus kinda losing the voice in Diata Bawu)
Come on man this was more than 20 years ago, Ocean died because it was just his time. God called for his return, it has nothing to do with spiritual reasons.
Why is it always Ba Congolais always wanna refer to deaths especially if its a musician that it was for spiritual reasons. It’s life people die everyday and it’s normal, frankly it’s quite disrespectful to Mon petit Blaise aka Ocean and his family to be hinting such things. Repose en Paix Blaise. 

Wenge1995 #6 on: October 29, 2020, 19:01

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Gibson indirectly admitted to Ado yuhe that he did nkisi on paparazz, because Koffi préférer him above Gibson, to the point that Koffi left Gibson behind in Kin for an African tour and brought Paparazzi instead and during a concert Paparazzi started to lose his voice suddenly and couldn’t go high in notes and Koffi called his staff to bring Gibson to join them.

So that story of Koffi being surprised to find Jordan in Europe is true then? Because a few former members said that they were surprised when Jordan’s name was announced for the list of Bercy.
Man looking back it would’ve been better if Chikito went to Bercy, Mustapha performed very well but he disappeared not long after so it was just a waste and obviously look at him now, it just wasn’t worth it.

I don't think Chikito would fit in well in QL, that team was very strong in terms of looks, singing, and attitude. Jordan barely clung on because of being a good dancer and charisma

archos #7 on: October 29, 2020, 19:11

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the part about jordan i am very careful,even with people close to artists,there is pure truth and a bit of masolo ya balabala
because jordan had natural reasons to be there already
lets analyse the potential lineup of bercy 
great dancers depitcho fally jf ifonge chikito kabobo jordan
 decent dancers  capable of following the choreographies well mamale jipson mustapha to some extent
average at best dancers babia,eric tutsi,lola muana,spino(or spino could go in the category of mamale,soleil before he made serious improvement
he was close to koffi's two favorites depitcho and fally,he has family link with aliyah
and we know also koffi had a sense of detail in his lineup which is why jordan and jf  were on the extremes being the tallest,while in most groups singers are just lined up with two of the most important left and right of the boss and thats it
so saying koffi was surprised to see him is like overlooking all those factors,or maybe koffi was just joking
and the fact koffi was always fearing  or believing he'd run away was how he missed attentat,and made the list with none of his own vocals to sing while others could have interpreted  modogo and go without him coming,and if you remember jordan's interviews he was saying that some members of the group were telling koffi that even in south africa he'd run away

CM PRINCE #8 on: November 03, 2020, 11:49

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Gibson indirectly admitted to Ado yuhe that he did nkisi on paparazz, because Koffi préférer him above Gibson, to the point that Koffi left Gibson behind in Kin for an African tour and brought Paparazzi instead and during a concert Paparazzi started to lose his voice suddenly and couldn’t go high in notes and Koffi called his staff to bring Gibson to join them.

So that story of Koffi being surprised to find Jordan in Europe is true then? Because a few former members said that they were surprised when Jordan’s name was announced for the list of Bercy.
Man looking back it would’ve been better if Chikito went to Bercy, Mustapha performed very well but he disappeared not long after so it was just a waste and obviously look at him now, it just wasn’t worth it.

I don't think Chikito would fit in well in QL, that team was very strong in terms of looks, singing, and attitude. Jordan barely clung on because of being a good dancer and charisma
Then I’d suggest you watch the Attentat clip or the Sur la route de Bercy, because Chikito was a very good fit. He was one of the best dancers on that team, he was also a good singer and had good looks and didn’t dress bad either.
He’s also from Bandal and actually grew up with Fally, Mamale, Jordan etc cause Fally even mentioned him an interview not long ago.
What a lot of people don’t know is the Attentat and Force De Frappe and also Bercy choreography most were actually his creation, and During the solo dances Jordan used his and Kabobo’s dancing steps.
He even said that he actually preferred his time in QL rather than BCBG that itself says a lot, he was just unlucky that Koffi suspended/fired him and also that Bouro returned.





archos #9 on: November 03, 2020, 12:02

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 prince you just reminded me with those videos of spino's ndombolo salsa oh my dayyyyyyyyyysss :D :D :D :D :D

CM PRINCE #10 on: November 03, 2020, 13:38

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prince you just reminded me with those videos of spino's ndombolo salsa oh my dayyyyyyyyyysss :D :D :D :D :D
LOL that had me laughing so hard I was like wtf is he doing  ;D :D