he says yes,but knowing fally  some thing he said wont make it too easy for him to stay,but then again kabuya has always had a special status so he might have it till the end or it will be broken

Do you think Boussole would have it hard to return too? Since he cemented his number 2 position as an atalaku before staying in Europe.

it depends of if something happened behind the scenes with fally,if its the case our man is pretty ruthless,do you still see iseboya for example
if there is no case then maybe he might return thanks to the cousin tag,but having papers is too tricky in our groups it ends up almost always developping some things with or without an instigator between leader and employee

What is the problem with Iseboya ?

he says yes,but knowing fally  some thing he said wont make it too easy for him to stay,but then again kabuya has always had a special status so he might have it till the end or it will be broken

Do you think Boussole would have it hard to return too? Since he cemented his number 2 position as an atalaku before staying in Europe.

it depends of if something happened behind the scenes with fally,if its the case our man is pretty ruthless,do you still see iseboya for example
if there is no case then maybe he might return thanks to the cousin tag,but having papers is too tricky in our groups it ends up almost always developping some things with or without an instigator between leader and employee

A little off topic, but is Etat Unis still with Roga Roga? He didn't join Extra Musica Nouvel Horizon, but he hasn't participated in recent concerts for Roga Roga's new band. Is he going the solo route? And what happened to the atalaku at the beginning of this generique? He was phenomenal, I'm surprise he didn't have a long run with the group.

he says yes,but knowing fally  some thing he said wont make it too easy for him to stay,but then again kabuya has always had a special status so he might have it till the end or it will be broken

Do you think Boussole would have it hard to return too? Since he cemented his number 2 position as an atalaku before staying in Europe.

it depends of if something happened behind the scenes with fally,if its the case our man is pretty ruthless,do you still see iseboya for example
if there is no case then maybe he might return thanks to the cousin tag,but having papers is too tricky in our groups it ends up almost always developping some things with or without an instigator between leader and employee

What is the problem with Iseboya ?

from what i know he got slapped by artistic director djino liaki  who never got punished and said  out of anger something
 about him and fally which was reported with "spicing" to fally who blacklisted iseboya
unless i am mistaken in the history of fally's group only billy synthe returned  from having left really,kasangidi never really left he was sidelined but "since he did not go on tv to talk" he kind of returned before bercy(but he sang with alvarito in his years without activity which might not help his case)

he says yes,but knowing fally  some thing he said wont make it too easy for him to stay,but then again kabuya has always had a special status so he might have it till the end or it will be broken

Do you think Boussole would have it hard to return too? Since he cemented his number 2 position as an atalaku before staying in Europe.

it depends of if something happened behind the scenes with fally,if its the case our man is pretty ruthless,do you still see iseboya for example
if there is no case then maybe he might return thanks to the cousin tag,but having papers is too tricky in our groups it ends up almost always developping some things with or without an instigator between leader and employee

A little off topic, but is Etat Unis still with Roga Roga? He didn't join Extra Musica Nouvel Horizon, but he hasn't participated in recent concerts for Roga Roga's new band. Is he going the solo route? And what happened to the atalaku at the beginning of this generique? He was phenomenal, I'm surprise he didn't have a long run with the group.

etats unis is in europe recording an album,as for the other atalaku de brazza  he had some issues with roga and left years ago now
here is one of his solo works

"he got slapped by artistic director djino liaki  who never got punished "

what's with grown men slapping other grown men? Is this an African or Congolese mentality? Is the seniority thing or influence so big that we still think to do this? is it docility because we are trying to get closer to power? Just baffles me, is all.

he says yes,but knowing fally  some thing he said wont make it too easy for him to stay,but then again kabuya has always had a special status so he might have it till the end or it will be broken

Do you think Boussole would have it hard to return too? Since he cemented his number 2 position as an atalaku before staying in Europe.

it depends of if something happened behind the scenes with fally,if its the case our man is pretty ruthless,do you still see iseboya for example
if there is no case then maybe he might return thanks to the cousin tag,but having papers is too tricky in our groups it ends up almost always developping some things with or without an instigator between leader and employee

What is the problem with Iseboya ?

from what i know he got slapped by artistic director djino liaki  who never got punished and said  out of anger something
 about him and fally which was reported with "spicing" to fally who blacklisted iseboya
unless i am mistaken in the history of fally's group only billy synthe returned  from having left really,kasangidi never really left he was sidelined but "since he did not go on tv to talk" he kind of returned before bercy(but he sang with alvarito in his years without activity which might not help his case)

One day Djino is gonna pay for his actions, Fally is a clown for letting stuff like that happen to his group. One day kharma will hit Djino, Kakol and Seguin, the time will come.

 i finally got the full version of the iseboya and kasangidi incidents with djino by a pire petit of mine who was in the f victeam circle whose parents sent him here to get "him far from music", iseboya refused to give him a percentage of his concert wage two times after brazza concerts third time in kinshasa  he refused and he caught him by the neck and slapped him backstage,it was also one of the starting points of the year and half of beef between him and cousteau because cousteau stepped in to tell him he had no right to do it
kasangidi it was also after african concert and when they returned he received a bag of clothes coming from an europe fan,and he offered some clothes to cousteau and kabuya at rehearsal,then next time djino asked to receive also some  which he politely refused saying if he starts sharing everything he will have nothing left which did not please djino who waited for him after rehearsal and gave him an "egogo"  and kasangidi who liked to wear his cap reverse saw the cap fly and complained to those he could complain to while djino started then first  teasing him at rehearsals(if you remember cousteau's first appearance he said that djino was at some point shouting "baluba " referring to the fact  cousteau,kasangidi and kabuya are all luba guys
then  djino started causing kasangidi trouble in the group and gossiping to fally that he is not coming on time at rehearsals he is not discipline and all that, i dont remember if interview is still there but there was back in the days an interview of fally talking in that hype mode saying that there are some musicians who cant handle fame  and start turning up hours after  leader and so on alluding about kasangidi and kabuya
so kasangidi was getting 12 not do come on stage  until a moment where fally will see that he has arrived late and give him order that baby or boussole would do his parts until he got fed up went to that test with heritier,then got sick  went through surgery then returned later with alvarito calling him,then people who wanted to experience original live with him started to spam fally with messages about allowing him back  and he came like we saw to rehearsals  but did not make the cut

The last soloist should be picked, he got some heat.

Is this the pick?

"he got slapped by artistic director djino liaki  who never got punished "

what's with grown men slapping other grown men? Is this an African or Congolese mentality? Is the seniority thing or influence so big that we still think to do this? is it docility because we are trying to get closer to power? Just baffles me, is all.

Unfortunate things like that happen everywhere. I don't think it's an african or a congolese thing.