Author Topic: LOL BERCY PULLS HIS CRYING STUNT AGAIN  (Read 5377 times)

archos on: November 02, 2020, 22:58

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of all the groups he left its only of his two moves from ferre's group that he cried and he says his staff will be very angry that he mentions ferre's name because of how ferre abandoned him in prison(if i remember well he had gone missing for ferre then there was suspicion that he was about to rejoin maison mere for a third time via kakol and koffi werra and heritier sent people to visit him)
he talked about his first time in maison mere recruited by aimelia who at some point started to get the guys he recruited more into a private group than fully involving them in maison mere maybe knowing he was unsettled so he was saving his guys in case
then he went to cultura before joss diena left and he says he has good memories from cultura,he was leaving in the beginning with wazekwa and out of all of the group he's ever been in it is the only group where whether they performed or not they were receiving monthy salary,even if sometimes he was a bit lower due to lack of concert income
and he left because of his strategy to fake death which wazekwa did not appreciate at all and he started missing concerts for a month and got sent a paper of suspension (he is trying to twist it like he decided to live while he tried all sorts of intervention but wazekwa said he'd return if he can bring back into his eyes his tears during a whole of losing a then 22 year old musician)
he talked about his collaboration behind the scenes with genta and bill clinton and said for example that bill changed on his remix of famous animation the tatu kansebu based on a way him bercy was doing when working with genta and that it got genta so excited that he called his brothers to make them hear it  and although he idolised bill more he was closer to genta,knows whole genta family  was even going to eat in family house  and he remembers how they were rehearsing for such a long time daily that they were sweating under their feet
he said he was not receiving a salary with ferre and werra officially as they were not paid in kinshasa only after touring,but in private he was receiving money from them and revealed that he received 10K from werra sent by grevy mfutila and he says to his colleagues of then "dont be angry that i was paid without you knowing "

Nkosi #1 on: November 03, 2020, 05:27

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The best place for this guy is WMMM. All he needs to do is get down to serious animation and deal with his private life. Jamaique needs someone to push him. Golbert and Diego aren't meant for WMMM, their energy levels are too low and they produce one good cry in a moon and that is it.

Petit bercy #2 on: November 03, 2020, 06:23

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Golbert is definitely meant for maison mere , golbert alobaka te Mais afrapaka fort like a old celeo.. that little space golbert gets in génériques he never misses ...

Franco Pepe Kalle #3 on: November 03, 2020, 12:10

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Golbert is definitely meant for maison mere , golbert alobaka te Mais afrapaka fort like a old celeo.. that little space golbert gets in génériques he never misses ...
Why does Golbert not get more chances to do his cries?

Nkosi #4 on: November 03, 2020, 18:52

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No one restricts him. He is the kind of a guy who would release one good cry in a moon and that is it. WMMM is competitive. They want you to chain 20 cries so that they pick 4 for an album. He had the chance to lead when Ambulance left but nothing much.

Nkosi #5 on: November 03, 2020, 18:53

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No one gives him little space. That is what he offers.

Manzambi94 #6 on: November 03, 2020, 19:41

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No one restricts him. He is the kind of a guy who would release one good cry in a moon and that is it. WMMM is competitive. They want you to chain 20 cries so that they pick 4 for an album. He had the chance to lead when Ambulance left but nothing much.

That's BS, WMMM restrains people a lot, Kimbangu wanted to add 5 or 6 songs in Wenge Maison Mère before the release of Malewa and Werrason told him that it was Orchestre Ta Batu (People's group) but yet Kakol has 2 sometimes 3 songs added to his name, plus if I am not wrong Zenga Luketo was actually a Kimbangu's song, or for example when Kirikou made the Kotele crie he used with Ferré in MMM plus Buba and other cries who were given to Ambulance, or do we have to talk about Cinq Chantier who was coming every week with a new crie that basically Werra didn't even pay attention too? Despite the crie being great? The real reason why Goldberg, Prince, and other stalaku with talent do not get the shine is because Maison Mère as Eboa Saïd is college ya ba nganga, where is either you have a lot of money or a lot of spiritual game to get on, from the way Goldberg speaks and by his cries you can see he is a God's man, that's the real reason why he doesn't get space, Mwinda is not a bad générique, Diemba also is not a bad crie, plus he made a very old crie who was called Libomgo ya Ndolo when he was very young that Werra never out even after these years despite the potential of the crie.

Nkosi #7 on: November 03, 2020, 19:53

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...and you honestly expect a new guy like Kimbangu to add 5 songs? Isn't that an album on it's own? Let's say he was allowed to add 5 songs and all musicians had 5 songs each....we would have had an album of 100 songs....the quality of the songs matter too. Why hasn't Kimbangu released those good songs now that he is solo? ....

Nkosi #8 on: November 03, 2020, 19:57

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Have you ever asked yourself why since Cinq left he has never released any of that in another group? He is basically not even heard of now. He was simply not good enough for WMMM...simple as that...otherwise he would be a big star in some other band right now. When you think through this you will understand why non of his works made it.

Nkosi #9 on: November 03, 2020, 20:00

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Kirikou is simply not a good ataluku that is why he suffered the same fate wherever he went. He has been moving around bands without much success, unless you tell me Werra, Ferre and Koffi are just bad!
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Nkosi #10 on: November 03, 2020, 20:06

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You have mentioned Prince and Golbert...surely if it is WMMM that is a problem to these atalukus then they would have made it somewhere else. Why isn't Prince ticking right now if he is an excellent ataluku? There was a gap when Ambulance left, even the young guy who animates like Brigade started getting the shine ahead of Golbert because he was stuck with Diemba chants. You cannot run WMMM with Diemba alone. He really never stepped up, same with Diego. WMMM basically had to go hunting for Jamaique.

Nkosi #11 on: November 03, 2020, 20:16

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Golbert made a generique when he was very young and werra never recognised it all these years...Golbert has not always been with Werra, he was a reserve in the days of Celeo, left and only came back recently...so Werra was suppose to release what Golbert did when he was young all these years he was out? Remember that before Golbert rejoined Werra he was with Ferre and there is nothing much to remember about him in Ferre's band. He simply could not  stand the competition. Yes he does good cries once in a while but WMMM is not run like that, you have to keep chaining. If you have watched Jamiaque's interviews, he has over 15 cries but not all have made it to an album...even Brigade himself had so many cries that never made it despite him having been lead ataluku.

Manzambi94 #12 on: November 03, 2020, 20:26

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Have you ever asked yourself why since Cinq left he has never released any of that in another group? He is basically not even heard of now. He was simply not good enough for WMMM...simple as that...otherwise he would be a big star in some other band right now. When you think through this you will understand why non of his works made it.

Lol are you serious?




Right from the start Cinq Chantier with Manioko Fritte the crie he used to do in Wenge that got never released



2:45 Cinq Chantier again

Then again him in what became a massive success Tsha Nanu Boye



0:55 Again Cinq Chantier in 4 Lettres a song that when was in the Ndombolhino channel was on 6 milion views

0:34 again Cinq Chantier

And I will stop here with the successful songs Cinq Chantier has been since he left Werra, simply put as I said Werra is guided by spiritual stuff rather than talent otherwise Bercy wouldn't have had that much space in Ingeta because to be honest Décollage (Ingeta main générique) would have been perfect if it only stuck with Mussels by Lobeso, Mama Leki by Ambulance and Ya Ngiama Coach, that would have been a great générique

Nkosi #13 on: November 04, 2020, 11:15

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Nothing special in that! That is why Robinho now does more talking than Cinq's chants doing the talking. The guy simply wasn't WMMM standard. Check out how many people know those chants....nothing much  and that is the sad truth.

Nkosi #14 on: November 04, 2020, 11:21

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The most popular parts of those generiques that send people crazy in concerts are Bercy's parts...unless you wanted an album with muselu from 1st to last minute...so again, it depends on whether Werra should have followed your test or what sends people crazy in shows. They do not even play Ambulance's parts in concerts because people do not demand them, it is only Bercy's parts and muselu.