Author Topic: (Rare) When Eric Tutsi joined Cultura Pays'Vie  (Read 3078 times)

Mfumu Vata on: January 06, 2021, 21:42

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Wenge1995 #1 on: January 06, 2021, 22:52

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Did Wazekwa leave Eric behind because of the indiscipline or to mitigate polemic with Koffi? He seems fine here, but he never participated on Yo Nani and sorta disappeared for a while. I never understood why Eric Tutsi never participated in Ultimatum, Loi, or Droit de Veto. I suppose Babia was vocally identical and more "attractive", but Babia was often unpredictable

CM PRINCE #2 on: January 06, 2021, 23:04

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Eric didn't participate in Ultimatum, Loi and Droit De Veto because he was left behind for those two tours when they recorded those three albums. He participated in the original Ultimatum recordings along with Willy Bula and Babia but Koffi lost those recordings.

Mfumu Vata #3 on: January 06, 2021, 23:17

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Eric Tutsi left by himself, because he didn't like the way Cultura was operating like a second class band, since that he felt himself like a god. His last concert was the one in Matadi, back in those days, the route of Kinshasa to Matadi wasn't like that of today. If you would go out the car, your face and clothes would be covered with sand. This happened with Eric Tutsi, when they returned the decided to leave and settle in Brazzaville for a moment, where he had alot of fans and donors before joining College de Noble after a year to leave it again after a few months, to return back in 2004 again to Quartier Latin.

It had nothing to do with Babia, because Babia himself didn't participate on Loi & Ultimatum. Ultimatum was record in 1996, in Kenya with 6 singers (Sam Tshintu, Babia Ndonga, Eric Tutsi, Willy Bula,  Suzuki Luzubu and Modogo), but when Koffi arrived for the tour in Europe, he lost the recording-files when he wanted to mix the album. So they had to record the album again, but this time Willy Bula, Babia Ndonga and Eric Tutsi weren't there because they were left behind in Kinshasa. Which made Koffi record it with just 4 singers (Bouro Mpela, Sam Tshintu, Modogo Ambarambwa and Suzuki Luzubu), in the same tour they recorded also Loi, since that Koffi wanted to his solo album before the end of 1997. That explains Eric Tutsi absence in both albums. Eric Tutsi was left behind for the tour of 1997, because he succes of V12, Magie and the tour of 1997 in Europe, made him big headed and not showing up in rehearshals or coming very late, the same for Babia. Like Babia, Eric would start to use strong drugs and become addicted to it. When Quartier Latin came back, Eric Tutsi was still not changing his behaviour, getting often suspended and his drugproblems would become until that he started to his voice. Then when the 1998-tour came that had Olympia & Zenith, he decided to bring for the first time 6 singers. From the 8 main singers, Eric Tutsi was then the worst at that time, because him not being able anymore to sing well and for his Olympia-show, Koffi wanted singers who also knew how to dance, but Eric Tutsi didn't know how to dance, so it was already known that he would be left behind once again. On the 1998-trip, Koffi decided to bring Depitcho, Bouro Mpela, Sam Tshintu, Modogo Ambrambwa, Babia Ndonga and Mamale, leaving Suzuki and Eric Tutsi behind, which why Eric Tutsi didn't sing on Droit de Veto. Then when Babia snitched to Koffi about the Academia-project, Koffi called his mother and staffmembers to recruit musicians in Kinshasa and ordered to get Eric Tutsi and do a rehab with Eric Tutsi ending up by becoming 100% clean and coordinating the rehearshals in Kinshasa with Rocky Blanchard who was also left behind. With those 25 singers/dancers all ending up by performing at Stade des Martyrs with Koffi, when he returned from the tour.

archos #4 on: January 06, 2021, 23:23

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guys if you think you ever saw koffi jb or werra too much in awe of a singer its nothing compared the the way wazekwa admired eric lool
wazekwa admired eric since magie even before becoming a professional musician and was saying guys we could have here the next papa wemba and  when eric joined  he would always give him money every rehearsal while others had to wait for end of the month or standing to let eric sit on his chair while leaders can do if they like you very very very very much like for example nsone and heritier,jb and alain mpela...
but in the long run strange spiritual things started to happen about them quartier latin guys like the way bizima said about marie paul dragging him back from quartier latin  and from that wazekwa does not recruit ex quartier latin guys unless he does not know for example francis bokeli who was on the video to announce bercy but did not stay and went to jf's group along with cousteau arc en ciel and co
he wanted multiple times  to get eric back but he was fearing the same thing would happen and also he did not want unnecessary noise of "wazekwa azui musicien ya koffi" 

Wenge1995 #5 on: January 07, 2021, 00:22

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Eric Tutsi left by himself, because he didn't like the way Cultura was operating like a second class band, since that he felt himself like a god. His last concert was the one in Matadi, back in those days, the route of Kinshasa to Matadi wasn't like that of today. If you would go out the car, your face and clothes would be covered with sand. This happened with Eric Tutsi, when they returned the decided to leave and settle in Brazzaville for a moment, where he had alot of fans and donors before joining College de Noble after a year to leave it again after a few months, to return back in 2004 again to Quartier Latin.

It had nothing to do with Babia, because Babia himself didn't participate on Loi & Ultimatum. Ultimatum was record in 1996, in Kenya with 6 singers (Sam Tshintu, Babia Ndonga, Eric Tutsi, Willy Bula,  Suzuki Luzubu and Modogo), but when Koffi arrived for the tour in Europe, he lost the recording-files when he wanted to mix the album. So they had to record the album again, but this time Willy Bula, Babia Ndonga and Eric Tutsi weren't there because they were left behind in Kinshasa. Which made Koffi record it with just 4 singers (Bouro Mpela, Sam Tshintu, Modogo Ambarambwa and Suzuki Luzubu), in the same tour they recorded also Loi, since that Koffi wanted to his solo album before the end of 1997. That explains Eric Tutsi absence in both albums. Eric Tutsi was left behind for the tour of 1997, because he succes of V12, Magie and the tour of 1997 in Europe, made him big headed and not showing up in rehearshals or coming very late, the same for Babia. Like Babia, Eric would start to use strong drugs and become addicted to it. When Quartier Latin came back, Eric Tutsi was still not changing his behaviour, getting often suspended and his drugproblems would become until that he started to his voice. Then when the 1998-tour came that had Olympia & Zenith, he decided to bring for the first time 6 singers. From the 8 main singers, Eric Tutsi was then the worst at that time, because him not being able anymore to sing well and for his Olympia-show, Koffi wanted singers who also knew how to dance, but Eric Tutsi didn't know how to dance, so it was already known that he would be left behind once again. On the 1998-trip, Koffi decided to bring Depitcho, Bouro Mpela, Sam Tshintu, Modogo Ambrambwa, Babia Ndonga and Mamale, leaving Suzuki and Eric Tutsi behind, which why Eric Tutsi didn't sing on Droit de Veto. Then when Babia snitched to Koffi about the Academia-project, Koffi called his mother and staffmembers to recruit musicians in Kinshasa and ordered to get Eric Tutsi and do a rehab with Eric Tutsi ending up by becoming 100% clean and coordinating the rehearshals in Kinshasa with Rocky Blanchard who was also left behind. With those 25 singers/dancers all ending up by performing at Stade des Martyrs with Koffi, when he returned from the tour.

Lol do they think Koffi wouldn't suspend them for skipping rehearsals or showing up late? I suppose Koffi must have a lot of love for Eric and Babia given how many opportunities he gave them to return. I'm not even sure Werra or JB would tolerate that type of behavior

Mfumu Vata #6 on: January 07, 2021, 00:39

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You don't know Koffi well. Koffi doesn't joke with his music, because he see it as his job, since that back in 1982 wasn't able to find a proper job in Kinshasa after finishing his studies. That's also why he's always in the spotlights try to adapt everytime never watch to the past like Emeneya, who were giving the impression that in you a timemachine in life. Koffi is really serious with music compared to JB, Adolphe and Werra,etc. who often don't showup to rehearshal and spent times in the studio. If Quartier Latin was like Clan Wenge, then Babia, Willy Bula and Eric Tutsi would never been left behind. If Maison Mere was Quartier Latin, then someone like Kakol would have been removed from his role as 'chef d'orchestre' and been left behind for a tour, like the way Koffi did to Champion when Koffi saw that he was not doing his role as 'chef d'orchestre' well and killing his band. Quartier Latin, that has a long list of chef d'orchestre and minor mistake can make Koffi furious and give someone else the role. The one who really lasted long as chef d'orchestre is Beniko Popolipo, followed by Fally Ipupa who replaced Felly Tyson in 2003.

Wenge1995 #7 on: January 07, 2021, 05:24

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You don't know Koffi well. Koffi doesn't joke with his music, because he see it as his job, since that back in 1982 wasn't able to find a proper job in Kinshasa after finishing his studies. That's also why he's always in the spotlights try to adapt everytime never watch to the past like Emeneya, who were giving the impression that in you a timemachine in life. Koffi is really serious with music compared to JB, Adolphe and Werra,etc. who often don't showup to rehearshal and spent times in the studio. If Quartier Latin was like Clan Wenge, then Babia, Willy Bula and Eric Tutsi would never been left behind. If Maison Mere was Quartier Latin, then someone like Kakol would have been removed from his role as 'chef d'orchestre' and been left behind for a tour, like the way Koffi did to Champion when Koffi saw that he was not doing his role as 'chef d'orchestre' well and killing his band. Quartier Latin, that has a long list of chef d'orchestre and minor mistake can make Koffi furious and give someone else the role. The one who really lasted long as chef d'orchestre is Beniko Popolipo, followed by Fally Ipupa who replaced Felly Tyson in 2003.

Who do you think was the best chef d'orchestra in Wenge Musica? To my knowledge, I only recall Ferre having the role briefly in 2002 which explains his two songs on A La Queue Leu Leu. What about before him?

Mfumu Vata #8 on: January 07, 2021, 17:07

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Ferre wasn't briefly the chief d'orchestre. He was already Chef d'Orchestre since 1999 until his departure in 2004. He replaced bass-player Christian Mwepu, who was since the birth of Maison Mere the chef d'orchestre, Ferre Gola being then chef de repetition or discipline, I don't remember.

The most famous chef d'orchestre in Clan Wenge and the Congolese music-scene, will stay Alain Mpela. He was like a mini-president of Wenge BCBG and all youngster well dreaming of his extravagant style, way of talking, etc. and wanted to copy. He had then the nickname "Chef du Gouvernement". From then all chef d'orchestre were called "Chef du Gouvernement". People used to say that Joss Diena was a copy of him, for the way he was acting on tv. Alain Mpela became chef d'orchestre in 1998, during the Canada-trip, JB decided without talking to Blaise Bula & Alain Makaba to make from him the chef d'orchestre, which created tensions in the band. Alain Mpela would stay chef d'orchestre until his departure in 2003.