His signature on heritier's generique without that effect is even more impressive, that thing of effects is funny i am sure there is plenty of the tyson works who would sound meehh in normal version or the famous flamme one,and some normal partitions could have sounded wayyy better with those effects

"Les Marquis to panzana naturellement tse, Les Marquis to panzana spirituellement" I know what he's trying to say, but one thing I wonder is it possible for other groups to attack a group spiritually for them to break up, etc?

Edit: Any truth to Japonais saying that Maisha Park was created to destroy Les Marquis?

Yes there are many examples. When Evoloko, Bozi, Papa Wemba and Mavuela left Zaiko to form Isifi Lokole, Zaiko's founder DV Muanda was throwing nkisi to Evoloko's house in Yolo and their rehearshal place and cursing them every night. Bozi Boziana losing his head, them thinking that it was because of Evoloko, while it wasn't him. Them all bad smell when singing on stage. Evoloko becoming sick "having maladie ya mpese". The band just lasted 11 months. They kept hunting on Evoloko even in his Isifi Melodia days until he returned to Zaiko in 1978. There used to be a rare interview of Evoloko in the 90s, explaining a part of the story in London, at Mengi Massamba's channel. But that video got deleted.

 Papa Wemba sending Mere Malou to Luciana, Jose Fataki and Fafa de Molokai, but them not knowing that they were using her to fight there band and just eating blindly what she was coocking for them. Later on you that fara-fara concert of Viva La Musica against Nouvelle Ecriture and the money being bad, since that the concert-promoter was from Wemba's side and Wemba's staff throwing nkisi at the door of LSC. Savanet Depitcho and JF Ifonge getting strange calls from Benin, just hearing wind. The same for Sam Tshintu and co when they formed Academia, someone of the guys losing their head and many of them not sleeping, because of the attacks in the night. Koffi did everything to corrupt Modogo, Lebou, Suzuki, Bouro Mpela and Mboshi back in Quartier Latin. I don't know if you remember before Force de Frappe rumors of them returing. From them all only Bouro Mpela returned, after that Koffi talked to Bouro's father. Knowing that if Bouro Mpela would return it would affect Academia strongly. Bouro Mpela himself already left, being fed up of Sam's behaviour. Bouro Mpela thinking about joining BCBG or Maison Mere, but his father saying no and bringing him to Koffi's house or Koffi visting them (I don't remember anymore its already more than 20 years ago).

Sometimes they will use cursed girls and if you aren't smart, you will end up like Reddy Amisi or do everything to sleep with your wife for spiritual reasons.  Them also sleeping with the same side chicks. That's why you had that beef of Koffi vs Nyoka Longo, Koffi vs Wemba, Nyoka Longo vs Kester, Koffi vs Kester.

Yes there are many examples. When Evoloko, Bozi, Papa Wemba and Mavuela left Zaiko to form Isifi Lokole, Zaiko's founder DV Muanda was throwing nkisi to Evoloko's house in Yolo and their rehearshal place and cursing them every night. Bozi Boziana losing his head, them thinking that it was because of Evoloko, while it wasn't him. Them all bad smell when singing on stage. Evoloko becoming sick "having maladie ya mpese". The band just lasted 11 months. They kept hunting on Evoloko even in his Isifi Melodia days until he returned to Zaiko in 1978. There used to be a rare interview of Evoloko in the 90s, explaining a part of the story in London, at Mengi Massamba's channel. But that video got deleted.

 Papa Wemba sending Mere Malou to Luciana, Jose Fataki and Fafa de Molokai, but them not knowing that they were using her to fight there band and just eating blindly what she was coocking for them. Later on you that fara-fara concert of Viva La Musica against Nouvelle Ecriture and the money being bad, since that the concert-promoter was from Wemba's side and Wemba's staff throwing nkisi at the door of LSC. Savanet Depitcho and JF Ifonge getting strange calls from Benin, just hearing wind. The same for Sam Tshintu and co when they formed Academia, someone of the guys losing their head and many of them not sleeping, because of the attacks in the night. Koffi did everything to corrupt Modogo, Lebou, Suzuki, Bouro Mpela and Mboshi back in Quartier Latin. I don't know if you remember before Force de Frappe rumors of them returing. From them all only Bouro Mpela returned, after that Koffi talked to Bouro's father. Knowing that if Bouro Mpela would return it would affect Academia strongly. Bouro Mpela himself already left, being fed up of Sam's behaviour. Bouro Mpela thinking about joining BCBG or Maison Mere, but his father saying no and bringing him to Koffi's house or Koffi visting them (I don't remember anymore its already more than 20 years ago).

Sometimes they will use cursed girls and if you aren't smart, you will end up like Reddy Amisi or do everything to sleep with your wife for spiritual reasons.  Them also sleeping with the same side chicks. That's why you had that beef of Koffi vs Nyoka Longo, Koffi vs Wemba, Nyoka Longo vs Kester, Koffi vs Kester.

I understand that the spiritual world is often referred to in our music. Whether it be for success or even failure. But surely, you don't actually believe that nkisi has anything to do with any of the example you provided. Those are hyperbole that actually have nothing to do in reality.

Yes there are many examples. When Evoloko, Bozi, Papa Wemba and Mavuela left Zaiko to form Isifi Lokole, Zaiko's founder DV Muanda was throwing nkisi to Evoloko's house in Yolo and their rehearshal place and cursing them every night. Bozi Boziana losing his head, them thinking that it was because of Evoloko, while it wasn't him. Them all bad smell when singing on stage. Evoloko becoming sick "having maladie ya mpese". The band just lasted 11 months. They kept hunting on Evoloko even in his Isifi Melodia days until he returned to Zaiko in 1978. There used to be a rare interview of Evoloko in the 90s, explaining a part of the story in London, at Mengi Massamba's channel. But that video got deleted.

 Papa Wemba sending Mere Malou to Luciana, Jose Fataki and Fafa de Molokai, but them not knowing that they were using her to fight there band and just eating blindly what she was coocking for them. Later on you that fara-fara concert of Viva La Musica against Nouvelle Ecriture and the money being bad, since that the concert-promoter was from Wemba's side and Wemba's staff throwing nkisi at the door of LSC. Savanet Depitcho and JF Ifonge getting strange calls from Benin, just hearing wind. The same for Sam Tshintu and co when they formed Academia, someone of the guys losing their head and many of them not sleeping, because of the attacks in the night. Koffi did everything to corrupt Modogo, Lebou, Suzuki, Bouro Mpela and Mboshi back in Quartier Latin. I don't know if you remember before Force de Frappe rumors of them returing. From them all only Bouro Mpela returned, after that Koffi talked to Bouro's father. Knowing that if Bouro Mpela would return it would affect Academia strongly. Bouro Mpela himself already left, being fed up of Sam's behaviour. Bouro Mpela thinking about joining BCBG or Maison Mere, but his father saying no and bringing him to Koffi's house or Koffi visting them (I don't remember anymore its already more than 20 years ago).

Sometimes they will use cursed girls and if you aren't smart, you will end up like Reddy Amisi or do everything to sleep with your wife for spiritual reasons.  Them also sleeping with the same side chicks. That's why you had that beef of Koffi vs Nyoka Longo, Koffi vs Wemba, Nyoka Longo vs Kester, Koffi vs Kester.

That would have been interesting to hear Internet with both Mpela brothers, the chorus would have been magical. Although, I'm not sure Werra would welcome him given his friendship with Koffi at the time. People like Ferre and Heritier would have felt threatened given his singing and dancing abilities

Bouro to WMMM could be Werra's complete team ever. How I wish it happened.

Imagine Bouro in the ligne 11 vid or doing Koyimbi ko live my gosh.

It would’ve been interesting seeing him in WMM or BCBG but in hindsight it was much much better for him to return to QL, because the amount of space he got in Effrakata and ADT and he also performed at Zenith 3 times, and toured Europe 3 times and America twice, it was just better for him.
Whilst in WMM it was all about Ferre, then Baby, then Lacoste and Mabiala, he would’ve fallen down line like Aimelia and Kabose who are just as good singers.
With BCBG well..... LOOOOL need I say more?  He would’ve completed wasted his career there.

Imagine Bouro in the ligne 11 vid or doing Koyimbi ko live my gosh.

Bouro’s really good at doing Koyimbi Ko, maybe even better than some MM guys
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Wait a minute. Who played Ndombolo ya solo in the studio? Him or Makaba? I'm getting confused.

With all this talk on Bouro almost joining Maison Mere, you're making me imagine how Calvaire would've turned out if it was on A La Queue Leu Leu.

With all this talk on Bouro almost joining Maison Mere, you're making me imagine how Calvaire would've turned out if it was on A La Queue Leu Leu.

Lolll Werra would've destroyed that song with the excessive Mabanga like he did with Baby, JDT and Ferre's songs. Like I said it was much much much better that he returned to Quartier Latin.

Wait a minute. Who played Ndombolo ya solo in the studio? Him or Makaba? I'm getting confused.

Ali Mbonda said in his interview that the one who played in "Ndombolo Ya Solo" was Alain Makaba. But the guitar lines were by Japonais