They talked about his time with bill clinton when bill landed after judol recruited les samourai for him and how as things went on bill felt very uncomfortable with judol starting to have strong success while he wanted to be the main atalaku and the main singer at the same time(you'll notice 99,99999999999999999 per cent of the known names of les samourai is the defence,which represents no threat whatsoever for bill )
judol then explained to nathy how he joined bcbg after his solo experience sponsored by primus,after primus started already getting rid of " minor artists",he went to brazza and was shining there singing jb songs then when many people from DRC were kicked out he was left with nothing to do and he had to follow one guy who bcbg gives shoutout to for a concert as the guy knew he had easy access since jb back in the primus competition days welcomed him several times in tv interviews and concerts,and when jb saw him jb congratulated him for his success in brazza and asked what he's up to and he explained he was deported from brazza so jb suggested him to join bcbg as a stepping stone to restart solo career,like the way papa wemba went to work with tabuley then after that lead viva la musica for decades
but he hesitated as he promised himself when he was a leader that he'd persist until he becomes succesful instead of joining a group
then weeks later he came to a bcbg rehearsal and sang and genta started singing "he's joined bcbg"
thats how he joined,and started travelling with the group less than a month after joining while usually it takes years to get your first trip
he said he found excuses to miss out on a lot of balle de match sessions because he had set in his head that by 5 years in the group he'd go back solo,so he did not want to participate a lot like for example metro who had 11 vocals plus a lead,abraham who had 16 vocals plus two leads,fudji who had 17 vocals and 4 leads,because he'd leave and it would lead to the group having to open the mastering files,go back to the mixed version,to the pre-mixed then to the raw version so that somebody replaces
he just sang mosaka's song and thats it which was already replaced by didi kalombo and nathy is surprised that heis still so aware of whats happening in bcbg
and he did not want either to just wait for album release then leave with that buzz like an opportunist,he felt time had come so he went like a man and told jb he was leaving and for one of the very rare times in congolese music jb gave him his passport full of visas so that he went to dubai to buy equipment for his band and turkey for clips,most of the times musicians have to run away with it
(by the way about the passport issue i heard that they had two passports,the one for groups and the individual ones,which is why musicians try tricks to get their professional passports and leaders keep it when you leave in troublesome way,as its more difficult to get visas with their normal passports)
at some point they talked about people they know in common,and judol revealed he was told that nathy was the president of bcbg fans at his university back in the days which had nathy having embarassed laughter,and which is surprising as in his professional career he's been far more of a werrasonique and had all sorts of conflicts with bcbg
