Wish I could get a full translation for this interview , lol, funny how back in the days we all thought it was his band...and Roga Roga was 'just' the guitarist...

It is still like this, any Atalaku or Singer that comes always outshine Roga and risk to kill him musically. First Doudou Copa for singers (After Kila of course) then Arafat, then Papy Bastin, then Kerson Saddam, then Youyou Mobange and now even Zaparo kinda killed him with that Na Suka Wapi song which is better of whatever Roga produced since the split. Instead of working on his insecurities Roga keep acting like a victim because he can't stand when (a lot of times) people who are way more talented then him get praised and more recognition than he wants

Bro its not just you lol in 1999 i went to christmas or something like that maybe easter,in my mother's family in togo and extra came to perform at stadium president eyadema,and president sent guys on stage to take kila to him thinking he's the leader and gave him a nice enveloppe
roga and espe were looking at each other like they are about to commit murder
they switched the note of the dancers sebene about to start so that he sounds off tune when he kicks in with animation

bato ya sima really suffer in the Congolese groups. No wonder he had no choice but become a singer.

Hahahaha yeah and it worked kila started off tune to which roga angrily shouted to him at,suka na 12
I am sure it also messed  the fact eyadema wanted them to come perform every new year,if the group accepted that idea kila would have gained way too much power compared to them since they were convinced he was the leader
even barbershops in togo had american stars and their haircuts onthe walls and awilo and kila mbongo as the only african artists

Wish I could get a full translation for this interview , lol, funny how back in the days we all thought it was his band...and Roga Roga was 'just' the guitarist...

It is still like this, any Atalaku or Singer that comes always outshine Roga and risk to kill him musically. First Doudou Copa for singers (After Kila of course) then Arafat, then Papy Bastin, then Kerson Saddam, then Youyou Mobange and now even Zaparo kinda killed him with that Na Suka Wapi song which is better of whatever Roga produced since the split. Instead of working on his insecurities Roga keep acting like a victim because he can't stand when (a lot of times) people who are way more talented then him get praised and more recognition than he wants

Papy Bastin & Kerson Saddam didn't have alot of impact in Extra Musica compared to Herman Ngassaki and Doudou Copa. Kerson Saddam just participated to one album, had just a few vocals and then left to join created Universal Zangul alongside Papy Bastin, Oyxgene, Rossen Yaourt and co. They also left before a long time before Arafat. Papy Bastin didn't had any song credited to his name in Extra Musica, where he was just giving songs to those who were higher in the hierachy. Papy Basitn's moment in Extra Musica was about to come, but he didn't want to wait anymore.

Roga Roga was about to give him more space after Obligatoire. Seeing him as someone who would later replace Herman's role. But Papy Bastin was fed up to be still considered as "nouveau" and didn't want to wait more since that he started to struggle with money, he went twice to Europe with them and already participated to three albums, which made family-members thinking that he was rich while he wasn't getting paid and the responsabilities still keeping growing. This made him motivate his friend to go towards Oxygene who already left and form their own band Universal Zangul after that Doudou Copa declined their offer, who was about to record his solo-album.

The first victim was Guy-Guy Fall who was Extra Musica's biggest start when Nouveaux Missiles got released. For years he would diss Roga Roga in every interview and in his first two albums he used to diss Roga Roga as motema mabe. He was mad that Roga Roga and Espe Bass decided to cut his song for Maman Dany (Kongolo Mobutu's wife) from the Confirmation-album. While Kongolo Mobutu already paid him alot of money and promised him a mercedes and much more money when the album would get released. It made Roga Roga jealous and he created a whole conspiracy with Sonor Digital and Espe Bass to get him out the band and cut the song from the album, claiming that he was using nkisi. Which made him leave the band.




The two disstracks against Roga Roga

Second victim was Regis Touba who before Nouveaux Missiles and Variete Samedi Soir. But his parents didn't want him to do music, so they sended him to Angola to punish him. After Nouveaux Missiles he came back and started to rise again when Guy-Guy Fall left. Ouragan was his album where he had multiple vocals and a song. Roga Roga knew that he would probably become their biggest star again and they weren't liking the way he started behaving. So they decided to do a 12 by not leaving him behind for their west-africa tour and not sending a ticket to him when they arrived in Europe on the moment when the civil-war broke done in Brazzaville. Abilissi who was a reserve-member ending up by doing most of his vocals and going away with all the shine. Regis would remain in the band, but Abilissi ending up by being more popular then him. Regis Touba would end up co-creating Extra Musica International with Quetin Moyascko and Durrel Loemba. Then once leaving them to form Z1 International along with Durella Loemba where he was the main star. Them having Levyson, Rav4 and Kerson Saddam as singers who were all stolen by Roga Roga.



Third Victim was Abilissi who became after the succes of Ouragan (the song Losambo made him really famous) and Etat Major one of the main stars of the band alongside Herman and Kila Mbongo. Roga Roga was then using Papy Jah to do him dirty. Abilissi himself wasn't liking Papy Jah, seeing already that they recruited him to get his place. So they weren't getting along until this day Papy Jah isn't able to mention Abilissi's name. Roga Roga did alot of 12 on him until he left and decided to join Academia before starting his solo career.





Fourth victim Kila Mbongo

Fifth victim Doudou Copa

6th Arafat

7th & 8th victim Herman Ngassaki & Regis Touba. They were to old and Roga Roga couldn't outshine him when he became the lead-singer. So he deiced to get rid of them just before the last recordings of Sorcellerie Kindoki. Using once again Sonor Digital, Levyson and Rav4. It was normal that Roga decided to get rid of Herman, because Herman was often looking more charismatic then him despite wearing uniforms sometimes.



Roga Roga dancing along with Regis Touba, Herman Ngassaki and Sonor Digital at Kora Awards 2008. You can already say that they were ba tata mibimba and had to leave.

Wish I could get a full translation for this interview , lol, funny how back in the days we all thought it was his band...and Roga Roga was 'just' the guitarist...

It is still like this, any Atalaku or Singer that comes always outshine Roga and risk to kill him musically. First Doudou Copa for singers (After Kila of course) then Arafat, then Papy Bastin, then Kerson Saddam, then Youyou Mobange and now even Zaparo kinda killed him with that Na Suka Wapi song which is better of whatever Roga produced since the split. Instead of working on his insecurities Roga keep acting like a victim because he can't stand when (a lot of times) people who are way more talented then him get praised and more recognition than he wants

Papy Bastin & Kerson Saddam didn't have alot of impact in Extra Musica compared to Herman Ngassaki and Doudou Copa. Kerson Saddam just participated to one album, had just a few vocals and then left to join created Universal Zangul alongside Papy Bastin, Oyxgene, Rossen Yaourt and co. They also left before a long time before Arafat. Papy Bastin didn't had any song credited to his name in Extra Musica, where he was just giving songs to those who were higher in the hierachy. Papy Basitn's moment in Extra Musica was about to come, but he didn't want to wait anymore.

Roga Roga was about to give him more space after Obligatoire. Seeing him as someone who would later replace Herman's role. But Papy Bastin was fed up to be still considered as "nouveau" and didn't want to wait more since that he started to struggle with money, he went twice to Europe with them and already participated to three albums, which made family-members thinking that he was rich while he wasn't getting paid and the responsabilities still keeping growing. This made him motivate his friend to go towards Oxygene who already left and form their own band Universal Zangul after that Doudou Copa declined their offer, who was about to record his solo-album.

The first victim was Guy-Guy Fall who was Extra Musica's biggest start when Nouveaux Missiles got released. For years he would diss Roga Roga in every interview and in his first two albums he used to diss Roga Roga as motema mabe. He was mad that Roga Roga and Espe Bass decided to cut his song for Maman Dany (Kongolo Mobutu's wife) from the Confirmation-album. While Kongolo Mobutu already paid him alot of money and promised him a mercedes and much more money when the album would get released. It made Roga Roga jealous and he created a whole conspiracy with Sonor Digital and Espe Bass to get him out the band and cut the song from the album, claiming that he was using nkisi. Which made him leave the band.




The two disstracks against Roga Roga

Second victim was Regis Touba who before Nouveaux Missiles and Variete Samedi Soir. But his parents didn't want him to do music, so they sended him to Angola to punish him. After Nouveaux Missiles he came back and started to rise again when Guy-Guy Fall left. Ouragan was his album where he had multiple vocals and a song. Roga Roga knew that he would probably become their biggest star again and they weren't liking the way he started behaving. So they decided to do a 12 by not leaving him behind for their west-africa tour and not sending a ticket to him when they arrived in Europe on the moment when the civil-war broke done in Brazzaville. Abilissi who was a reserve-member ending up by doing most of his vocals and going away with all the shine. Regis would remain in the band, but Abilissi ending up by being more popular then him. Regis Touba would end up co-creating Extra Musica International with Quetin Moyascko and Durrel Loemba. Then once leaving them to form Z1 International along with Durella Loemba where he was the main star. Them having Levyson, Rav4 and Kerson Saddam as singers who were all stolen by Roga Roga.



Third Victim was Abilissi who became after the succes of Ouragan (the song Losambo made him really famous) and Etat Major one of the main stars of the band alongside Herman and Kila Mbongo. Roga Roga was then using Papy Jah to do him dirty. Abilissi himself wasn't liking Papy Jah, seeing already that they recruited him to get his place. So they weren't getting along until this day Papy Jah isn't able to mention Abilissi's name. Roga Roga did alot of 12 on him until he left and decided to join Academia before starting his solo career.





Fourth victim Kila Mbongo

Fifth victim Doudou Copa

6th Arafat

7th & 8th victim Herman Ngassaki & Regis Touba. They were to old and Roga Roga couldn't outshine him when he became the lead-singer. So he deiced to get rid of them just before the last recordings of Sorcellerie Kindoki. Using once again Sonor Digital, Levyson and Rav4. It was normal that Roga decided to get rid of Herman, because Herman was often looking more charismatic then him despite wearing uniforms sometimes.



Roga Roga dancing along with Regis Touba, Herman Ngassaki and Sonor Digital at Kora Awards 2008. You can already say that they were ba tata mibimba and had to leave.

Would things have went better for Papy Bastin if he stayed patient with Zangul? Arafat got a song on La Main Noire, I think Bastin would have too and had lasted longer with Roga than Universal Zangul.

No. Universal Zangul made him reach another level. If he stayed in Extra Musica Zangul, I think that would have reached the level that Universal Zangul made him reach.

In Universal  Zangul he was the second leader behind Oxygene, having the hitsongs Ibrahima Sylla, La Vie Ondongo and Tout a Coup on his name. Back at time he would often confront Herman Ngassaki on tv who used to diss them. The polemic of Extra Musica Zangul vs Universal Zangul was very strong at that time. But Oxygene wasn't happy with them and felt that Papy Bastin was about to become more popular than him. So he was about to plan a huge 12 against him. Papy Bastin was aware and then said openly on tv that he won't appear anymore in any interview, because of Oxygene not being happy with it. It made Oxygene really mad and he decided to fire him from the band after saying that. Which dissapointed the public who saw the band as really promosing, who already won the price of best band of year 2005 & 2006.




 Oxygene became the supreme leader from that moment and they started preparing Conjugaison with Kerson Saddam, Rossen and co until that he was sent to Cameroun. Papy Bastin on his side started his solo-career. But his first album wasn't a big succes due to the lack of promotion.

It's sad that Universal Zangul imploded from within. In this interview done Papy Bastin says ba petit (Rossen Yaourt and Kerson Saddam) didn't like that he was becoming too influential in the group so they went and lied to Oxygene that Papy Bastin wants to dethrone him as leader leading to him having a bad relationship with Oxygene until that he was fired from the group as Mfumu wrote above.

I like the album Tapis Rouge but the atalaku really tried to sound like Kila Mbongo but failed lamentable. Sans Hypocrise being my favourite rumba of the album Bondo Mania with that little solo guitar at the end.