<cite>@archos said:</cite>
more recently there is abracadabra( magic formula as we all know) another title was added aside it was "tous dans mes bras" in english" all in my hands"
people do not know it but the date of release coincided perfectly with the day one of his girlfriends had a miscarriage of twins,and the day of relese instead of mourning the babies koffi made that girl drink champagne and celebrate
koffi says this album is  the only one of his whole career to have insane success in every of the 24 communes of kinshasa and by very far the one he has sold the most
even more recently boite noire and power
boite noire is the idea of  wrestler edingwe who initiated ferre into world of witchcraft
it is the start of ferre on the way of doing the "dragon pact" aswell soon
he was asked  a certian nubmer of people to give through any possible way to reach a higher level
the day album was released there were  many accidents on the very same road in ferre's childhood quarter of kasavubu
power of fally was inspired from kanye west's power,as fally has or is trying hard to enter "their world"(illuminati and all those stuff)
fally sees kanye as a model and whenever he is in states tries to become friends with those guys,usher,drake and co
ferré's toko kendé na bango likolo au dela de la troisieme corde was a hidden message to fally as he knew fally was entering another dimension and he was telling him he we is also be up there or even stronger than him
he even took nickname "fantome" (ghost) and suddenly abandoned it once album was out

I have been addicted to Cindy/Koffi/quartier latin(the previous set),and Ferre's music for a while now.  Maybe it's part of the deal that they have with the underworld, that once a listener, hears their songs..they become addicted to it.  I can't believe that I'm actually still playing their songs after these confirmations.  These people are heartless, you see them smiling and dancing but they are heartless.  Fally, Ferre, Werrason, Koffi, Cindy will never attain the same level of success as Kanye West..They can join all the occultic groups in the world.  They will NEVER be as successful.  They will suffer the consequences of their actions, maybe not now..but they will.

like i said earlier, you can still listen to songs,otherwise there are millions of guys if not 90 per cent of the whole universe who would do nothing in life since they are addicted to songs of those guys
witchcraft does not make melodies or voices sound good,but it can make you almost worship those guys,i doubt it's your case or the case of any of us here,its a leisure for us not a way of life

Papa Wemba's withcraft of the 70' & '80. Did ruines the vision and lifes of many youngsters of that time and effets are still visible today. But he had also helped at the same peoples, to let them to Europe for a better life.

<cite>@Musicfan said:</cite>
Wow..this is serious.  I was told by my fiance who is Congolese how heavily involved in witchcraft these musicians are, I did not quite believe him, until I joined this forum.  It is truly sad, to see that these artist who are immensely talented result to using diabolic means to achieve success.  They sell their souls to the devil, one day it will come back to haunt them or their families(children or grand-children inclusive).  With all these diabolic means still they are not as popular as a Celine Dion or Toni Braxton; Who used their talents to gain world recognition without the use of witchcraft.  We dance and sing to these songs, unaware of what goes on behind the scene. I have been told to stop listening to these artists because of their involvement in the underworld and so far it's been difficult.  What can I say? I love Congolese music...God help me.

Boite Noire is unfortunately a big flop. Only the 3 generique + Pakadjuma are doing well. But the rest not. I was very dissapointed when the album out. I thought that it would be like Kibuisa Mpimpa & TH, because how they did praise the album on tv and that twitter-affair against Fally "to gagner". But it wasn't the case, it's full with monotony and stuff about sex. The same thing was also with Power when it came out, but there I like all the songs and there are not sex-songs.

I observed that Fally and Ferre always praise their albums to much, so that peoples think that it is a great album like V12, T.H. and Kibuisa Mpimpa. But when there fans buy the albums, they come always disappointed out.  

i think that's not witchraft or not only witchcraft
 you are surely talking about la sape,chance eloko pamba and stuff like that no?
viva was  a group born in strets,so they took the spirit of street guys( gangsters,ganja,stealing and so on)
but then again i dont think it can be reduced to witchcraft,because those things i mentioned were seen everywhere,on tvs and stuff like that,and there was a similar situation in the US with  movies,the groups of hippies and so on
but if you mean the power wemba got back then also influenced  people in those ways you are absolutely true
 and you are right when you say he did a lot of bad but in some way did good aswell
and its the same with koffi later and the wenges  and co with ngulu,yes they sacrificed people and all that but also those guys changed the life of thousands if not millions of people bringing them to europe or america

<cite>@archos said:</cite>
you can actually listen,same with hip hop and co
 you can listen as long as it's just the music in itself(melody arrangement and co) which pleases you rather than everything those guys do or say becoming your way of life,then you are under their control

True, I do listen to it because of the aforementioned attributes,  of course the infamous GUITAR RIFTS.  Congolese guitarists are one the best in the world. As well as the language(especially in rumba songs..it sounds romantic). Although there might be vulgar, senseless hidden meanings to many of the songs.   Speaking of meaning of songs, can you please translate Cindy Le Coeur Homélie's song?  Thanks a million.  Again still can't believe that I listen to Cindy's album even with the representation of her album's title.  

   

yes mvulusi,what matters to fally and ferre the most is how much their album creates excitement when its out,playing in front of crazy crowds and stuff like that,they have guarantees from their sorcerers that no matter what,there will be excitement about albums and thats what they prefer
if you listen to interviews after album is out,they insist a lot more on how its succesful rather than how good the songs are,whereas kibuisa and co had mystic success but also a very high quality of work

<cite>@Musicfan said:</cite>
True, I do listen to it because of the aforementioned attributes,  of course the infamous GUITAR RIFTS.  Congolese guitarists are one the best in the world. As well as the language(especially in rumba songs..it sounds romantic). Although there might be vulgar, senseless hidden meanings to many of the songs.   Speaking of meaning of songs, can you please translate Cindy Le Coeur Homélie's song?  Thanks a million.  Again still can't believe that I listen to Cindy's album even with the representation of her album's title.</blockquot
 
yes i will translate homelie soon

kibuisa mpimpa in kikongo also has something got to do with the night, note marie paul is called roi soleil "king of sun" in one interview said they can't kill me in the sun so the try at night, mpimpa means night in kikongo so that means kibuisa mpimpa is also something go to do with the night which links back to witchcraft but mvulusi titles like solola bien ain't really witchcraft linked is just leadership wars solola bien was sent for jb blatantly if not then it would have been a bit more hidden like other titles same with miracles a tease to werra so he can pissed of they took his title

kibuisa mpimpa in lingala is ko kweyisa butu,that's probably why its translated as eclipse since eclipse suddenly makes the sky dark

omoni olobi ko kweyisa c'est pourquoi ko kweyisa ekoki kozala kibuisa mais mpimpa tuna bakongo ba ko yebisa yo mpimpa esa butu wango wana je dit que marie-paul alobaki ba meka nga na soleil ba koka te mais ba mekaka ngai na mpimpa yango wana esa kaka po aloba que werra asalaka ba faire na ba nkisi wana mais soki nalobi mabe corrigier nga merci archos

justement its what i said man ko kweyisa butu or kibuisa mpimpa in kikongo its a clear allusion to mystic things which happened late in the night when people are sleeping
those guys who believe in witchcraft rarely do things during sunlight unless its things people can not necessarily realise like accidents(since accidents happen every day its difficult to see with precision which ones are from witchcraft)
you see what i mean?

i see what you mean archos, looooooooooooool so most witchcraft is based in asia i've just thought about this fleche india has probably has something dark about it too notice how werra went india i wonder what for???

 werra probably got some stuff there during his treatment,bill clinton also went there last year for moto ya danger lol
the guy they work with there worked with the likes of madilu in the past

damn i think if your in a different of those businesses you got to go abroad but i heard asians are promoting that sort business in congo without being scared it's sad now and for fally i know his trying to get the same level as kanye west and co. but i'm asking how can the success for the usa is not comparable to africa for instance if jay-z went to congo he probably fill up the whole of bandal and kintambo but the congolese can't fill up yankees stadium why lol?