Author Topic: Ngadiadia Vieux Ngadios & Chic-Choc Loyenge - Ngwele (CLIP)  (Read 1901 times)

Mfumu Vata on: December 14, 2022, 22:11

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It's strange to see Al Pacino with hair lol. It's a shame that he got his name know through Ngadiadia's band and not a proper band. It was difficult to get taken seriously when he left, because of people were associating him with comedian Ngadiadia although feeling sorry for him for the way they left him in Kinshasa. Luckily they accepted in Nouvelle Ecriture where he made his name bigger and people respecting him properly in no time.


Wenge1995 #1 on: December 15, 2022, 18:08

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It's strange to see Al Pacino with hair lol. It's a shame that he got his name know through Ngadiadia's band and not a proper band. It was difficult to get taken seriously when he left, because of people were associating him with comedian Ngadiadia although feeling sorry for him for the way they left him in Kinshasa. Luckily they accepted in Nouvelle Ecriture where he made his name bigger and people respecting him properly in no time.

What made Papa Wemba choose him to be an atalaku rather than finding a proper atalaku? I found it interesting how quickly he became good at both, that's not common

Manzambi94 #2 on: December 18, 2022, 13:29

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It's strange to see Al Pacino with hair lol. It's a shame that he got his name know through Ngadiadia's band and not a proper band. It was difficult to get taken seriously when he left, because of people were associating him with comedian Ngadiadia although feeling sorry for him for the way they left him in Kinshasa. Luckily they accepted in Nouvelle Ecriture where he made his name bigger and people respecting him properly in no time.

Where can I find a better audio quality of this?

Mfumu Vata #3 on: December 18, 2022, 13:52

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It's strange to see Al Pacino with hair lol. It's a shame that he got his name know through Ngadiadia's band and not a proper band. It was difficult to get taken seriously when he left, because of people were associating him with comedian Ngadiadia although feeling sorry for him for the way they left him in Kinshasa. Luckily they accepted in Nouvelle Ecriture where he made his name bigger and people respecting him properly in no time.

What made Papa Wemba choose him to be an atalaku rather than finding a proper atalaku? I found it interesting how quickly he became good at both, that's not common

Viva la Musica isn't a bad of atalaku's. Before Al Capino, singers were doing cries together. When Nouvelle Ecriture they continued with that to keep the original spirit of Viva la Musica. Like most bands in the early 80s, they still felt atalaku's like inferior musicians and them messing the music up by doing music of village "miziki ya mboka/mbonda ya kintambo". But they changed it after Al Pacino arrival. The release of Fula Ngenge made some viva-fanatics angry by betraying the Viva-code.

Al Pacino came from the same band like that of Tutu Calugi and Mboshi Lipassa. I forgot the name of that band, but it was based in Kasa-Vubu. They used to do both animation and singing on the same time. Al Pacino would do the same in Ngadiadia's band Chic Choc Loyenge. It's the same thing which made Kaluji stay in Wenge 4x4, when Werrason discovered his skills as atalaku after that he lost against Aimelia when they were looking some singers to replace Manda Chante.

Al Pacino didn't came as an atalaku to Nouvelle Ecriture. Al Pacino came as a normal singer. But when Wemba came from Europe, he said that he was missing something in him. Then the next day started to do animations on sebene which made Papa Wemba very happy and Al Pacino from that day doing both singing and atalaku in Nouvelle Ecriture and also adding those cries in Fula Ngenge.

Mfumu Vata #4 on: December 18, 2022, 13:54

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It's strange to see Al Pacino with hair lol. It's a shame that he got his name know through Ngadiadia's band and not a proper band. It was difficult to get taken seriously when he left, because of people were associating him with comedian Ngadiadia although feeling sorry for him for the way they left him in Kinshasa. Luckily they accepted in Nouvelle Ecriture where he made his name bigger and people respecting him properly in no time.

Where can I find a better audio quality of this?

Igwejunior1030 has the full album. But he needs to reupload all deleted videos on his channel first. Don't forget that it's an in Kin recorded album which hasn't the same quality like those recorded in Europe

Wenge1995 #5 on: December 18, 2022, 17:57

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It's strange to see Al Pacino with hair lol. It's a shame that he got his name know through Ngadiadia's band and not a proper band. It was difficult to get taken seriously when he left, because of people were associating him with comedian Ngadiadia although feeling sorry for him for the way they left him in Kinshasa. Luckily they accepted in Nouvelle Ecriture where he made his name bigger and people respecting him properly in no time.

What made Papa Wemba choose him to be an atalaku rather than finding a proper atalaku? I found it interesting how quickly he became good at both, that's not common

Viva la Musica isn't a bad of atalaku's. Before Al Capino, singers were doing cries together. When Nouvelle Ecriture they continued with that to keep the original spirit of Viva la Musica. Like most bands in the early 80s, they still felt atalaku's like inferior musicians and them messing the music up by doing music of village "miziki ya mboka/mbonda ya kintambo". But they changed it after Al Pacino arrival. The release of Fula Ngenge made some viva-fanatics angry by betraying the Viva-code.

Al Pacino came from the same band like that of Tutu Calugi and Mboshi Lipassa. I forgot the name of that band, but it was based in Kasa-Vubu. They used to do both animation and singing on the same time. Al Pacino would do the same in Ngadiadia's band Chic Choc Loyenge. It's the same thing which made Kaluji stay in Wenge 4x4, when Werrason discovered his skills as atalaku after that he lost against Aimelia when they were looking some singers to replace Manda Chante.

Al Pacino didn't came as an atalaku to Nouvelle Ecriture. Al Pacino came as a normal singer. But when Wemba came from Europe, he said that he was missing something in him. Then the next day started to do animations on sebene which made Papa Wemba very happy and Al Pacino from that day doing both singing and atalaku in Nouvelle Ecriture and also adding those cries in Fula Ngenge.

Is Nouvelle Ecriture still together or did the band break up because of Wemba dying?

Manzambi94 #6 on: December 18, 2022, 18:52

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It's strange to see Al Pacino with hair lol. It's a shame that he got his name know through Ngadiadia's band and not a proper band. It was difficult to get taken seriously when he left, because of people were associating him with comedian Ngadiadia although feeling sorry for him for the way they left him in Kinshasa. Luckily they accepted in Nouvelle Ecriture where he made his name bigger and people respecting him properly in no time.

What made Papa Wemba choose him to be an atalaku rather than finding a proper atalaku? I found it interesting how quickly he became good at both, that's not common

Viva la Musica isn't a bad of atalaku's. Before Al Capino, singers were doing cries together. When Nouvelle Ecriture they continued with that to keep the original spirit of Viva la Musica. Like most bands in the early 80s, they still felt atalaku's like inferior musicians and them messing the music up by doing music of village "miziki ya mboka/mbonda ya kintambo". But they changed it after Al Pacino arrival. The release of Fula Ngenge made some viva-fanatics angry by betraying the Viva-code.

Al Pacino came from the same band like that of Tutu Calugi and Mboshi Lipassa. I forgot the name of that band, but it was based in Kasa-Vubu. They used to do both animation and singing on the same time. Al Pacino would do the same in Ngadiadia's band Chic Choc Loyenge. It's the same thing which made Kaluji stay in Wenge 4x4, when Werrason discovered his skills as atalaku after that he lost against Aimelia when they were looking some singers to replace Manda Chante.

Al Pacino didn't came as an atalaku to Nouvelle Ecriture. Al Pacino came as a normal singer. But when Wemba came from Europe, he said that he was missing something in him. Then the next day started to do animations on sebene which made Papa Wemba very happy and Al Pacino from that day doing both singing and atalaku in Nouvelle Ecriture and also adding those cries in Fula Ngenge.

I wonder why they took Aimelia tbh I think Caludji is a better singer, compared to Aimelia, more natural

Manzambi94 #7 on: December 18, 2022, 18:53

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It's strange to see Al Pacino with hair lol. It's a shame that he got his name know through Ngadiadia's band and not a proper band. It was difficult to get taken seriously when he left, because of people were associating him with comedian Ngadiadia although feeling sorry for him for the way they left him in Kinshasa. Luckily they accepted in Nouvelle Ecriture where he made his name bigger and people respecting him properly in no time.

Where can I find a better audio quality of this?

Igwejunior1030 has the full album. But he needs to reupload all deleted videos on his channel first. Don't forget that it's an in Kin recorded album which hasn't the same quality like those recorded in Europe
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archos #8 on: December 18, 2022, 18:56

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promise musica,mboshi tutu alpatchino alino vimba all singers atalakus of the band until tutu mboshi and alpa went to bigger groups

Mfumu Vata #9 on: December 18, 2022, 21:26

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It's strange to see Al Pacino with hair lol. It's a shame that he got his name know through Ngadiadia's band and not a proper band. It was difficult to get taken seriously when he left, because of people were associating him with comedian Ngadiadia although feeling sorry for him for the way they left him in Kinshasa. Luckily they accepted in Nouvelle Ecriture where he made his name bigger and people respecting him properly in no time.

What made Papa Wemba choose him to be an atalaku rather than finding a proper atalaku? I found it interesting how quickly he became good at both, that's not common

Viva la Musica isn't a bad of atalaku's. Before Al Capino, singers were doing cries together. When Nouvelle Ecriture they continued with that to keep the original spirit of Viva la Musica. Like most bands in the early 80s, they still felt atalaku's like inferior musicians and them messing the music up by doing music of village "miziki ya mboka/mbonda ya kintambo". But they changed it after Al Pacino arrival. The release of Fula Ngenge made some viva-fanatics angry by betraying the Viva-code.

Al Pacino came from the same band like that of Tutu Calugi and Mboshi Lipassa. I forgot the name of that band, but it was based in Kasa-Vubu. They used to do both animation and singing on the same time. Al Pacino would do the same in Ngadiadia's band Chic Choc Loyenge. It's the same thing which made Kaluji stay in Wenge 4x4, when Werrason discovered his skills as atalaku after that he lost against Aimelia when they were looking some singers to replace Manda Chante.

Al Pacino didn't came as an atalaku to Nouvelle Ecriture. Al Pacino came as a normal singer. But when Wemba came from Europe, he said that he was missing something in him. Then the next day started to do animations on sebene which made Papa Wemba very happy and Al Pacino from that day doing both singing and atalaku in Nouvelle Ecriture and also adding those cries in Fula Ngenge.

Is Nouvelle Ecriture still together or did the band break up because of Wemba dying?

Nouvelle Ecriture/Nouvelle Ecrita still exists. Papa Wemba renamed it into Viva la Musica around 2008, because of the original one "Cour des Grands" based in Europe being totally inexisting. They released last year an album called "La Voie du Maitre" under artistic direction of Maika Munan and Tosha Fulakanda (who's the chief of the band). The album has several guests such as Luciana Demingongo, Reddy Amisi and late Général Défao. In the album it's Bébé Wemba "Neymar" who's doing the role of Papa Wemba. The album is ok, but for whatever reason people are not paying attention it.

About the band itself. Many left quickly after Wemba's death, due to disagreement with Amazone (Wemba's widow) about money and went each their own way. Pompom Miyake was the first one to leave, after being fired for singing in Kenya to pay tribute Wemba and tried a solo-career. Soliste Zamba got fired with some singers for performing Matadi without Amazone's permission. Bendoson left 2 years after it, because of not being happy that they wanted want to accept him as president and also the leadership war against Tosha Fulakanda.This made him start also a solo career. Than after seeing that he was going nowhere, Bendoson decided along with Pompom Miyake, ex'Nouvelle Ecriture singer Jean Apocalyps, singer Anthony Sampiao, Pathy Patecko and former Viva guitarist of 80s Stella Uomo to form a band called Bana Viva. They were recently joined by atalaku Biscuit des Ecoliers who left Viva la Musica being fed up that they were only doing rumba's in concerts and him almost not being on stage, sometimes even not animating. Pathy Patechko already left and Anthony Sampaio as well. Many consider for whatever reason Bendo's band as the real Viva la Musica. I see it as Nouvelle Ecriture de l'An 2000 2.0, which he, Pompom Miyake, Christian na Nzenze and Ramazani formed back in 2000. But didn't succeed due to financial difficulties and being boycotted.
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Mfumu Vata #10 on: December 18, 2022, 21:35

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It's strange to see Al Pacino with hair lol. It's a shame that he got his name know through Ngadiadia's band and not a proper band. It was difficult to get taken seriously when he left, because of people were associating him with comedian Ngadiadia although feeling sorry for him for the way they left him in Kinshasa. Luckily they accepted in Nouvelle Ecriture where he made his name bigger and people respecting him properly in no time.

What made Papa Wemba choose him to be an atalaku rather than finding a proper atalaku? I found it interesting how quickly he became good at both, that's not common

Viva la Musica isn't a bad of atalaku's. Before Al Capino, singers were doing cries together. When Nouvelle Ecriture they continued with that to keep the original spirit of Viva la Musica. Like most bands in the early 80s, they still felt atalaku's like inferior musicians and them messing the music up by doing music of village "miziki ya mboka/mbonda ya kintambo". But they changed it after Al Pacino arrival. The release of Fula Ngenge made some viva-fanatics angry by betraying the Viva-code.

Al Pacino came from the same band like that of Tutu Calugi and Mboshi Lipassa. I forgot the name of that band, but it was based in Kasa-Vubu. They used to do both animation and singing on the same time. Al Pacino would do the same in Ngadiadia's band Chic Choc Loyenge. It's the same thing which made Kaluji stay in Wenge 4x4, when Werrason discovered his skills as atalaku after that he lost against Aimelia when they were looking some singers to replace Manda Chante.

Al Pacino didn't came as an atalaku to Nouvelle Ecriture. Al Pacino came as a normal singer. But when Wemba came from Europe, he said that he was missing something in him. Then the next day started to do animations on sebene which made Papa Wemba very happy and Al Pacino from that day doing both singing and atalaku in Nouvelle Ecriture and also adding those cries in Fula Ngenge.

I wonder why they took Aimelia tbh I think Caludji is a better singer, compared to Aimelia, more natural

Both Aimelia and Calugi were battling in public concerts in multiple areas of Kinshasa to see who could intepret Manda's vocal in Kalayi Boeing and Aimelia ended up by winning because his voice was higher than that of Calugi also back than he was singing better than Calugi altough some of Wenge 4x4 not really liking his voice and wanting another singer. Another thing also was that I think one of Aimelia's cousins was married to JB's family plus he was from Matete/Lemba, which was important to lure more fans into Wenge 4x4 like the way they got alot fans when they recruited Manda who was from N'djili. Calugi than started to focus more on animation and became atalaku, but was left behind Anges Adorables vol. 1 & 2 recordings which made Ekokota do some of his cries. Many don't know that Makaba's song Douglas Ilumbe was actually a song that Calugi brought from his band and that he used to sing along with Al Pacino. Al Pacino reworked the song in one of Ngadiadia's album as Angie.

Sydo #11 on: December 18, 2022, 22:16

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It's strange to see Al Pacino with hair lol. It's a shame that he got his name know through Ngadiadia's band and not a proper band. It was difficult to get taken seriously when he left, because of people were associating him with comedian Ngadiadia although feeling sorry for him for the way they left him in Kinshasa. Luckily they accepted in Nouvelle Ecriture where he made his name bigger and people respecting him properly in no time.

Where can I find a better audio quality of this?

I have the album, I'll post it tomorrow with Z1 International's Ère de Vérité
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Manzambi94 #12 on: January 05, 2023, 20:39

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Thanks where have you uploaded it?


It's strange to see Al Pacino with hair lol. It's a shame that he got his name know through Ngadiadia's band and not a proper band. It was difficult to get taken seriously when he left, because of people were associating him with comedian Ngadiadia although feeling sorry for him for the way they left him in Kinshasa. Luckily they accepted in Nouvelle Ecriture where he made his name bigger and people respecting him properly in no time.

Where can I find a better audio quality of this?

I have the album, I'll post it tomorrow with Z1 International's Ère de Vérité