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Mfumu Vata #15 on: February 12, 2023, 00:48

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Apocalyps didnt replace anybody. They just recruited him as a normal atalaku. Back then they had like 6 atalaku’s in Quartier Latin. 2 unknown atalaku’s who were never getting a proper chance, Acide, CNN, Brigade and Washington.

Jordan Kusa didn’t left he was just there. Koffi punished Jordan by leaving him behind in Kinshasa for Affaire d’Etat. Koffi already gave him a 4 months suspension not long after Stade des Martyrs, because of refusing to follow his orders (insulting JB Mpiana) and also that story about his girlfriend. After the end of his suspension, which was a few weeks before the trip Quartier Latin started to rehearse Affaire d’Etat in Binza. But when the trip came they all left the house where they were preparing the album without telling Jordan. The moment Jordan woke up didn’t see anybody in house and a few hours later Fally called him to say that they already crossed the Congo-river to get in Europe through Brazzaville and that he just had to stay strong. After Affaire d’Etat Jordan slowly started to get his place back in the band, but Koffi wasn’t giving him the same value anymore like he used to give before.

 Jordan Kusa was never fired by Koffi, he left QL by himself. It was because of the concert at Grand Hotel where Koffi invited multiple guest (Emeneya, JB Mpiana, Wemba, Bozi and Adolphe). When rehearsing for the event, nobody dared to sing with Emeneya. The singers were afraid that Koffi would be mad at them. Jordan Kusa was the only one who sang with him. Afterwards, Koffi was really mad, he said to Jordan “I didn’t know that I had a spy in my band”. Jordan had some difficulties with remembering old Koffi songs and it made Koffi mad to see him sing multiple Emeneya’s songs. During the event at Grand Hotel, Koffi refused have him on stage the whole concert long and the moment Emeneya came in he came on stage by force. The same stuff happened at following concert they did and from then he decided to leave and didn’t show up anymore at concerts and rehearsals. He started to prepare his album which he titled first “7 années de vache maigre” but later renamed into “danger de mort” just to piss Koffi up.

JF Ifonge case is different to Cambogde. JF Ifonge was Koffi’s favorite which made him not being scared to confront Koffi. He had a French passeport and return any moment back to europe. Although living at the house of Koffi parents, he wasn’t really dependent on Koffi, having a lot support from his friends, donors and fans living in Europe. Next to it, he was really important in the polemic-section to attack JB Mpiana, Nyoka Longo and Papa Wemba. Koffi’s biggest fear was that he and Depitcho would leave Quartier Latin for Wenge BCBG. So he was letting both guys doing their thing in Quartier Latin like it was their band and the newly recruited musicians just doing anything what they were saying in order to get a place in the band. However, behind he scenes Koffi had a hidden agenda against JF Ifonge and Depitcho but he was just waiting for the right time.  Both guys already left before he wanted to do 12 on them.Koffi was in reality not liking the way Depitcho was acting like Quartier Latin was he band and guys like Mamale and Champion often complained about it to Koffi. But Koffi not having any choice to accept it, because of Quartier Latin being a little bit weak because of Academia.

The moment JF Ifonge wanted to beat Koffi was after his departure from Quartier Latin. Koffi started to talk bad about him to people, he also said that JF Ifonge didn’t do anything in Quartier Latin and added that his mother was a slave (JF’s mom is from the West-Indies). It made JF really mad, so he started searching for Koffi. Koffi had to run for his life, the moment they met each other at the restaurant of Cesar Loboko’s sister.


Wenge1995 #16 on: February 12, 2023, 03:35

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Apocalyps didnt replace anybody. They just recruited him as a normal atalaku. Back then they had like 6 atalaku’s in Quartier Latin. 2 unknown atalaku’s who were never getting a proper chance, Acide, CNN, Brigade and Washington.

Jordan Kusa didn’t left he was just there. Koffi punished Jordan by leaving him behind in Kinshasa for Affaire d’Etat. Koffi already gave him a 4 months suspension not long after Stade des Martyrs, because of refusing to follow his orders (insulting JB Mpiana) and also that story about his girlfriend. After the end of his suspension, which was a few weeks before the trip Quartier Latin started to rehearse Affaire d’Etat in Binza. But when the trip came they all left the house where they were preparing the album without telling Jordan. The moment Jordan woke up didn’t see anybody in house and a few hours later Fally called him to say that they already crossed the Congo-river to get in Europe through Brazzaville and that he just had to stay strong. After Affaire d’Etat Jordan slowly started to get his place back in the band, but Koffi wasn’t giving him the same value anymore like he used to give before.

 Jordan Kusa was never fired by Koffi, he left QL by himself. It was because of the concert at Grand Hotel where Koffi invited multiple guest (Emeneya, JB Mpiana, Wemba, Bozi and Adolphe). When rehearsing for the event, nobody dared to sing with Emeneya. The singers were afraid that Koffi would be mad at them. Jordan Kusa was the only one who sang with him. Afterwards, Koffi was really mad, he said to Jordan “I didn’t know that I had a spy in my band”. Jordan had some difficulties with remembering old Koffi songs and it made Koffi mad to see him sing multiple Emeneya’s songs. During the event at Grand Hotel, Koffi refused have him on stage the whole concert long and the moment Emeneya came in he came on stage by force. The same stuff happened at following concert they did and from then he decided to leave and didn’t show up anymore at concerts and rehearsals. He started to prepare his album which he titled first “7 années de vache maigre” but later renamed into “danger de mort” just to piss Koffi up.

JF Ifonge case is different to Cambogde. JF Ifonge was Koffi’s favorite which made him not being scared to confront Koffi. He had a French passeport and return any moment back to europe. Although living at the house of Koffi parents, he wasn’t really dependent on Koffi, having a lot support from his friends, donors and fans living in Europe. Next to it, he was really important in the polemic-section to attack JB Mpiana, Nyoka Longo and Papa Wemba. Koffi’s biggest fear was that he and Depitcho would leave Quartier Latin for Wenge BCBG. So he was letting both guys doing their thing in Quartier Latin like it was their band and the newly recruited musicians just doing anything what they were saying in order to get a place in the band. However, behind he scenes Koffi had a hidden agenda against JF Ifonge and Depitcho but he was just waiting for the right time.  Both guys already left before he wanted to do 12 on them.Koffi was in reality not liking the way Depitcho was acting like Quartier Latin was he band and guys like Mamale and Champion often complained about it to Koffi. But Koffi not having any choice to accept it, because of Quartier Latin being a little bit weak because of Academia.

The moment JF Ifonge wanted to beat Koffi was after his departure from Quartier Latin. Koffi started to talk bad about him to people, he also said that JF Ifonge didn’t do anything in Quartier Latin and added that his mother was a slave (JF’s mom is from the West-Indies). It made JF really mad, so he started searching for Koffi. Koffi had to run for his life, the moment they met each other at the restaurant of Cesar Loboko’s sister.

What did Koffi mean by Jordan being a "spy"? Emeneya wasn't really competitive enough to poach musicians from rival bands, so I don't see how that criticism applied to Jordan.

I'm even surprised Jordan would even sing with Kester on stage if he knew his place in the band wasn't like before.

So when the musicians rehearse prior to a Europe tour, each musician brings their own songs? How does Koffi decide who gets a song on group albums and which musicians make the trip? I feel bad for the atalakus and guitarist that never got a chance to make the albums, a lot of their work gets interpreted by Felly Tyson and singers.

I know Depitcho came from Wenge El Paris, but where did JF come from? Was he in a band or he came straight from Europe. Thank god he didn't last with QL, the guy was a big faux chantuer...good dancer but terrible singer lol

Mfumu Vata #17 on: February 12, 2023, 16:01

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Apocalyps didnt replace anybody. They just recruited him as a normal atalaku. Back then they had like 6 atalaku’s in Quartier Latin. 2 unknown atalaku’s who were never getting a proper chance, Acide, CNN, Brigade and Washington.

Jordan Kusa didn’t left he was just there. Koffi punished Jordan by leaving him behind in Kinshasa for Affaire d’Etat. Koffi already gave him a 4 months suspension not long after Stade des Martyrs, because of refusing to follow his orders (insulting JB Mpiana) and also that story about his girlfriend. After the end of his suspension, which was a few weeks before the trip Quartier Latin started to rehearse Affaire d’Etat in Binza. But when the trip came they all left the house where they were preparing the album without telling Jordan. The moment Jordan woke up didn’t see anybody in house and a few hours later Fally called him to say that they already crossed the Congo-river to get in Europe through Brazzaville and that he just had to stay strong. After Affaire d’Etat Jordan slowly started to get his place back in the band, but Koffi wasn’t giving him the same value anymore like he used to give before.

 Jordan Kusa was never fired by Koffi, he left QL by himself. It was because of the concert at Grand Hotel where Koffi invited multiple guest (Emeneya, JB Mpiana, Wemba, Bozi and Adolphe). When rehearsing for the event, nobody dared to sing with Emeneya. The singers were afraid that Koffi would be mad at them. Jordan Kusa was the only one who sang with him. Afterwards, Koffi was really mad, he said to Jordan “I didn’t know that I had a spy in my band”. Jordan had some difficulties with remembering old Koffi songs and it made Koffi mad to see him sing multiple Emeneya’s songs. During the event at Grand Hotel, Koffi refused have him on stage the whole concert long and the moment Emeneya came in he came on stage by force. The same stuff happened at following concert they did and from then he decided to leave and didn’t show up anymore at concerts and rehearsals. He started to prepare his album which he titled first “7 années de vache maigre” but later renamed into “danger de mort” just to piss Koffi up.

JF Ifonge case is different to Cambogde. JF Ifonge was Koffi’s favorite which made him not being scared to confront Koffi. He had a French passeport and return any moment back to europe. Although living at the house of Koffi parents, he wasn’t really dependent on Koffi, having a lot support from his friends, donors and fans living in Europe. Next to it, he was really important in the polemic-section to attack JB Mpiana, Nyoka Longo and Papa Wemba. Koffi’s biggest fear was that he and Depitcho would leave Quartier Latin for Wenge BCBG. So he was letting both guys doing their thing in Quartier Latin like it was their band and the newly recruited musicians just doing anything what they were saying in order to get a place in the band. However, behind he scenes Koffi had a hidden agenda against JF Ifonge and Depitcho but he was just waiting for the right time.  Both guys already left before he wanted to do 12 on them.Koffi was in reality not liking the way Depitcho was acting like Quartier Latin was he band and guys like Mamale and Champion often complained about it to Koffi. But Koffi not having any choice to accept it, because of Quartier Latin being a little bit weak because of Academia.

The moment JF Ifonge wanted to beat Koffi was after his departure from Quartier Latin. Koffi started to talk bad about him to people, he also said that JF Ifonge didn’t do anything in Quartier Latin and added that his mother was a slave (JF’s mom is from the West-Indies). It made JF really mad, so he started searching for Koffi. Koffi had to run for his life, the moment they met each other at the restaurant of Cesar Loboko’s sister.

What did Koffi mean by Jordan being a "spy"? Emeneya wasn't really competitive enough to poach musicians from rival bands, so I don't see how that criticism applied to Jordan.

I'm even surprised Jordan would even sing with Kester on stage if he knew his place in the band wasn't like before.

So when the musicians rehearse prior to a Europe tour, each musician brings their own songs? How does Koffi decide who gets a song on group albums and which musicians make the trip? I feel bad for the atalakus and guitarist that never got a chance to make the albums, a lot of their work gets interpreted by Felly Tyson and singers.

I know Depitcho came from Wenge El Paris, but where did JF come from? Was he in a band or he came straight from Europe. Thank god he didn't last with QL, the guy was a big faux chantuer...good dancer but terrible singer lol

Koffi said it out anger, comparing Jordan to someone who would report stuff to Emeneya when being in Quartier Latin. Because it hurted him the way he was singing Emeneya's song out his heart, but him having difficulties with singing old Koffi songs. Talking about Jordan Kusa, Jordan and his brother Gessan Sakoko used to be big fanatics of Victoria Eleison and their older brother DesAffaire Mikwi was really close to Emeneya and used to be his garcon de couse (I dont know how to say that in English)

About spies, Werrason was often not trusting musicians coming from Quartier Latin, seeing them as spies. Because of these reasons wasn’t giving Bibicia, Cambodge and Brigade a proper chance when they came for the first time in 2004. The same thing in 2009, Asso and Mukusa ya Mbwa tried their luck in Wenge Maison Mere but Werrason rejected them, thinking that Koffi send them to spy Maison Mere.

Of course each musicians come with a song, otherwise their wouldn’t be a group album. G5 often come with excuses to not release group-albums, by saying to journalists that their musicians never come with songs into the band.

 The musicians come with songs that they prepared at home with songwriters, or just stole from streetbands or bands where they used to be part from. In the era of A La Que Leu Leu, Affaire d’Etat and co. it happened often that singers were sued by musicians of streetbands for stealing their songs. But those lawsuits went nowhere because of bandleaders corrupting the justice or calming those guys down by giving them some money. Koffi once said that his musicians don’t have any right to complain about their past, because of often saving them for the way they were stealing songs.

It just simple, Koffi just picks the best songs, he also looks to the influence you have in the band and if you have a problem you can be punished by not being allowed to put a song. About the trips, if you slept with a dancer you may be left behind. If you showed bad behaviour during the time in Kinshasa (skipping rehearsals or coming often late) you also may be left behind. If you respect everything, you dont have to worry.

JF Ifonge used to be part of Wenge Aile Paris for a short time, later on he followed Aime Buanga’s Wenge Aile Paris. After that he used to be part of sapeur Modogo GianFranco Ferre’s band Place Vendome and also spent some time in the band Grand Libanko “New Look” of Gina Efonge. JF Ifonge and his friend Cesar Loboko had some succes in Paris and Brussels for the looks they had and way they were dancing in nightclubs. They were often invited by artist like Papa Wemba, Bozi Boziana and Koffi Olomidé to dance on stage and some times to sing. But it was mostly the dance-skills that was attracting them.



The succes that bands like, Promuzika,  FGBM (it had members like Richard Mukena of Wenge BCBG, Papy Sebene, Christian Lema of Nouvelle Ecriture, Didier Anaconda of Wenge Tonya Tonya, etc.), Black Story of Smalto Dizoizo, etc. had in Brussels, gave JF Ifonge the desire live in Brussels and create his band there. JF Ifonge moved to Brussels and its there where he created his own band Chic La Puissanca having his friend Tshotsho Bokito who used to work at famous nightclub La Reference of Maman Shaguy Sharufa as president. He help from Caien Madoka he recorded his album Démolition which was produced by Jimmy Houetinou (the manager of Awilo Longomba and Aurlus Mabele). The generique of his album had some succes in African countries due to the ndombolo-virus (JF Ifonge himself only discovered it the moment he started to tour around Africa with Quartier LAtin). JF Ifonge’s name started grow more and more and not long after it he was approached by Koffi to join Quartier Latin. After the recordings of Droit de Veto, he officially joined Quartier Latin in Europe and went with them to Africa.


Wenge1995 #18 on: February 12, 2023, 16:22

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Apocalyps didnt replace anybody. They just recruited him as a normal atalaku. Back then they had like 6 atalaku’s in Quartier Latin. 2 unknown atalaku’s who were never getting a proper chance, Acide, CNN, Brigade and Washington.

Jordan Kusa didn’t left he was just there. Koffi punished Jordan by leaving him behind in Kinshasa for Affaire d’Etat. Koffi already gave him a 4 months suspension not long after Stade des Martyrs, because of refusing to follow his orders (insulting JB Mpiana) and also that story about his girlfriend. After the end of his suspension, which was a few weeks before the trip Quartier Latin started to rehearse Affaire d’Etat in Binza. But when the trip came they all left the house where they were preparing the album without telling Jordan. The moment Jordan woke up didn’t see anybody in house and a few hours later Fally called him to say that they already crossed the Congo-river to get in Europe through Brazzaville and that he just had to stay strong. After Affaire d’Etat Jordan slowly started to get his place back in the band, but Koffi wasn’t giving him the same value anymore like he used to give before.

 Jordan Kusa was never fired by Koffi, he left QL by himself. It was because of the concert at Grand Hotel where Koffi invited multiple guest (Emeneya, JB Mpiana, Wemba, Bozi and Adolphe). When rehearsing for the event, nobody dared to sing with Emeneya. The singers were afraid that Koffi would be mad at them. Jordan Kusa was the only one who sang with him. Afterwards, Koffi was really mad, he said to Jordan “I didn’t know that I had a spy in my band”. Jordan had some difficulties with remembering old Koffi songs and it made Koffi mad to see him sing multiple Emeneya’s songs. During the event at Grand Hotel, Koffi refused have him on stage the whole concert long and the moment Emeneya came in he came on stage by force. The same stuff happened at following concert they did and from then he decided to leave and didn’t show up anymore at concerts and rehearsals. He started to prepare his album which he titled first “7 années de vache maigre” but later renamed into “danger de mort” just to piss Koffi up.

JF Ifonge case is different to Cambogde. JF Ifonge was Koffi’s favorite which made him not being scared to confront Koffi. He had a French passeport and return any moment back to europe. Although living at the house of Koffi parents, he wasn’t really dependent on Koffi, having a lot support from his friends, donors and fans living in Europe. Next to it, he was really important in the polemic-section to attack JB Mpiana, Nyoka Longo and Papa Wemba. Koffi’s biggest fear was that he and Depitcho would leave Quartier Latin for Wenge BCBG. So he was letting both guys doing their thing in Quartier Latin like it was their band and the newly recruited musicians just doing anything what they were saying in order to get a place in the band. However, behind he scenes Koffi had a hidden agenda against JF Ifonge and Depitcho but he was just waiting for the right time.  Both guys already left before he wanted to do 12 on them.Koffi was in reality not liking the way Depitcho was acting like Quartier Latin was he band and guys like Mamale and Champion often complained about it to Koffi. But Koffi not having any choice to accept it, because of Quartier Latin being a little bit weak because of Academia.

The moment JF Ifonge wanted to beat Koffi was after his departure from Quartier Latin. Koffi started to talk bad about him to people, he also said that JF Ifonge didn’t do anything in Quartier Latin and added that his mother was a slave (JF’s mom is from the West-Indies). It made JF really mad, so he started searching for Koffi. Koffi had to run for his life, the moment they met each other at the restaurant of Cesar Loboko’s sister.

What did Koffi mean by Jordan being a "spy"? Emeneya wasn't really competitive enough to poach musicians from rival bands, so I don't see how that criticism applied to Jordan.

I'm even surprised Jordan would even sing with Kester on stage if he knew his place in the band wasn't like before.

So when the musicians rehearse prior to a Europe tour, each musician brings their own songs? How does Koffi decide who gets a song on group albums and which musicians make the trip? I feel bad for the atalakus and guitarist that never got a chance to make the albums, a lot of their work gets interpreted by Felly Tyson and singers.

I know Depitcho came from Wenge El Paris, but where did JF come from? Was he in a band or he came straight from Europe. Thank god he didn't last with QL, the guy was a big faux chantuer...good dancer but terrible singer lol

Koffi said it out anger, comparing Jordan to someone who would report stuff to Emeneya when being in Quartier Latin. Because it hurted him the way he was singing Emeneya's song out his heart, but him having difficulties with singing old Koffi songs. Talking about Jordan Kusa, Jordan and his brother Gessan Sakoko used to be big fanatics of Victoria Eleison and their older brother DesAffaire Mikwi was really close to Emeneya and used to be his garcon de couse (I dont know how to say that in English)

About spies, Werrason was often not trusting musicians coming from Quartier Latin, seeing them as spies. Because of these reasons wasn’t giving Bibicia, Cambodge and Brigade a proper chance when they came for the first time in 2004. The same thing in 2009, Asso and Mukusa ya Mbwa tried their luck in Wenge Maison Mere but Werrason rejected them, thinking that Koffi send them to spy Maison Mere.

Of course each musicians come with a song, otherwise their wouldn’t be a group album. G5 often come with excuses to not release group-albums, by saying to journalists that their musicians never come with songs into the band.

 The musicians come with songs that they prepared at home with songwriters, or just stole from streetbands or bands where they used to be part from. In the era of A La Que Leu Leu, Affaire d’Etat and co. it happened often that singers were sued by musicians of streetbands for stealing their songs. But those lawsuits went nowhere because of bandleaders corrupting the justice or calming those guys down by giving them some money. Koffi once said that his musicians don’t have any right to complain about their past, because of often saving them for the way they were stealing songs.

It just simple, Koffi just picks the best songs, he also looks to the influence you have in the band and if you have a problem you can be punished by not being allowed to put a song. About the trips, if you slept with a dancer you may be left behind. If you showed bad behaviour during the time in Kinshasa (skipping rehearsals or coming often late) you also may be left behind. If you respect everything, you dont have to worry.

JF Ifonge used to be part of Wenge Aile Paris for a short time, later on he followed Aime Buanga’s Wenge Aile Paris. After that he used to be part of sapeur Modogo GianFranco Ferre’s band Place Vendome and also spent some time in the band Grand Libanko “New Look” of Gina Efonge. JF Ifonge and his friend Cesar Loboko had some succes in Paris and Brussels for the looks they had and way they were dancing in nightclubs. They were often invited by artist like Papa Wemba, Bozi Boziana and Koffi Olomidé to dance on stage and some times to sing. But it was mostly the dance-skills that was attracting them.



The succes that bands like, Promuzika,  FGBM (it had members like Richard Mukena of Wenge BCBG, Papy Sebene, Christian Lema of Nouvelle Ecriture, Didier Anaconda of Wenge Tonya Tonya, etc.), Black Story of Smalto Dizoizo, etc. had in Brussels, gave JF Ifonge the desire live in Brussels and create his band there. JF Ifonge moved to Brussels and its there where he created his own band Chic La Puissanca having his friend Tshotsho Bokito who used to work at famous nightclub La Reference of Maman Shaguy Sharufa as president. He help from Caien Madoka he recorded his album Démolition which was produced by Jimmy Houetinou (the manager of Awilo Longomba and Aurlus Mabele). The generique of his album had some succes in African countries due to the ndombolo-virus (JF Ifonge himself only discovered it the moment he started to tour around Africa with Quartier LAtin). JF Ifonge’s name started grow more and more and not long after it he was approached by Koffi to join Quartier Latin. After the recordings of Droit de Veto, he officially joined Quartier Latin in Europe and went with them to Africa.



Who was chief of repetition in Quartier Latin? For some reason, I believe it was Beniko because he was the most experienced musician in the group and trained every guitarist from 1992 to 1999, but I could be wrong. Maybe Champion because he was Koffi's "number two" but isn't chief orchestra a higher position than repetition?

Mfumu Vata #19 on: February 12, 2023, 17:06

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I don't know. Koffi used to rotate that role often.

Beniko joined Quartier Latin 1993 after Noblesse Oblige. In 1992 he was still a session-artist after leaving Zaiko Familia Dei. He became chef d'orchestre somewhere in 1994 until 1997 when he left. late Ondoma replaced him but after two weeks Sam Tshintu became it with Ondo as his assistent.

Champion had the nickname Number Two, because he became the new chef d'orchestre in the period that they were preparing Bercy. He replaced Do Akongo.

chef de repetition doesn't have alot value when its a band of a solo-artist, because the chef d'orchestre himself is already doing that role. It's different when its a group with multiple leaders. back in the days chef d'orchestre was in reality the role as directeur artistique (artistic director) and that what we see as chef d'orchestre nowadays was chef de repetition. For example in late 80s, Alain Makaba was chef d'orchestre of Wenge Musica. Roga Roga used to be chef d'orchestre of Extra Musica until Quetin Moyascko's departure.

 But for whatever reasons it changed in late 90s, bandleaders making from their n2 the chef d'orchestre of the band and many adding the position (directeur artistique) in the band. Many bands adopted it in 2000s, guess that the influence of Alain Mpela as chef d'orchestre inspired many