Author Topic: I realize only now that CNN animated Mea Culpa on his own  (Read 3686 times)

Mfumu Vata on: April 02, 2023, 11:45

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You can feel that he really gave all his energy and the sebene of Ridens Makosso feels emotional during the "ba mamu-animation¨ and the coco wele-part. The way CNN ended the sebene with "yoyoyoh" from 6:58 was fanatasic but the sound already went down.

So sad that because of hearing CNN having hit Koffi's "at that moment" dancer first, messing everything up. Koffi doing everything to humilate him in the following months until the Zenith-trip. I would have liked to hear him at least in two albums more. It took some time for me to accept Effrakata, because it was weird for me not hear CNN and suddenly hear to two new atalaku's. It was also weird for me to hear suddenly CNN in Monde Arabe after hearing the combo Brigade-Kerozene on two albums.

Wenge1995 #1 on: April 02, 2023, 13:02

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You can feel that he really gave all his energy and the sebene of Ridens Makosso feels emotional during the "ba mamu-animation¨ and the coco wele-part. The way CNN ended the sebene with "yoyoyoh" from 6:58 was fanatasic but the sound already went down.

So sad that because of hearing CNN having hit Koffi's "at that moment" dancer first, messing everything up. Koffi doing everything to humilate him in the following months until the Zenith-trip. I would have liked to hear him at least in two albums more. It took some time for me to accept Effrakata, because it was weird for me not hear CNN and suddenly hear to two new atalaku's. It was also weird for me to hear suddenly CNN in Monde Arabe after hearing the combo Brigade-Kerozene on two albums.

I feel like Koffi didn't really care for Ocean, he never praised him on songs and concerts like Kerozene, Brigade, Mboshi and Dolce. I always wondered why he left Ocean behind when they went to South Africa to record Titanic?



Mfumu Vata #2 on: April 02, 2023, 13:16

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Ocean was new and joined a few weeks before the recording. CNN was animating for months on his own after Mboshi's departure. You had duet's at that time, but it was still normal to see one atalaku animating a whole album on his own. Tutu Calugi for example animated Titanic on his own at that time.


archos #3 on: April 02, 2023, 13:38

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 what i also liked about cnn is that he could interpret animation of other atalakus and give it another feeling,and i am not talking about beevans mboshi somono before him, i am talking about those of his generation molayi bizima and co,for example the "midi midi tokolia pondu"animation by bizima look at how he transformed it on the attentat generique or how he transformed in integral the animation he found in cultura

CM PRINCE #4 on: April 02, 2023, 15:57

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CNN is a legend. One of the best atalakus in history, it was better for brigade and kerozene that cnn didn’t participate in Effrakata because he would’ve totally outshined them like the way he outshined acide, apocalypse and kerozene in monde arabe

Mfumu Vata #5 on: April 02, 2023, 17:24

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For me everybody failed in Monde Arabe. Because of them Koffi had to justify in every interview that he isn’t an atalaku but a singer and giving more motivation to go for  rumba albums. Koffi did go to bring Brigade back

CM PRINCE #6 on: April 02, 2023, 17:42

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For me everybody failed in Monde Arabe. Because of them Koffi had to justify in every interview that he isn’t an atalaku but a singer and giving more motivation to go for  rumba albums. Koffi did go to bring Brigade back
You think even CNN failed?? Especially in l’autre la?? CNN killed it on that Generique, it’s weird how the generiques weren’t well received compared to the others of the past because now they’re very popular especially heros national. Come to think of it I don’t think I’ve ever heard those generiques being played live.

Seben_Maniac #7 on: April 02, 2023, 17:53

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For me everybody failed in Monde Arabe. Because of them Koffi had to justify in every interview that he isn’t an atalaku but a singer and giving more motivation to go for  rumba albums. Koffi did go to bring Brigade back
You think even CNN failed?? Especially in l’autre la?? CNN killed it on that Generique, it’s weird how the generiques weren’t well received compared to the others of the past because now they’re very popular especially heros national. Come to think of it I don’t think I’ve ever heard those generiques being played live.

I agree with Mfumu Vata. If you compare the animations from Monde Arabe to Affaire Dtat and Effrakata, there was a fall off there. This is an unpopular opinion but I think if Brigade was on Monde Arabe instead of CNN, that album may have been recieved differently since those were originally Brigades animations in the first place

archos #8 on: April 02, 2023, 19:08

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For me everybody failed in Monde Arabe. Because of them Koffi had to justify in every interview that he isn’t an atalaku but a singer and giving more motivation to go for  rumba albums. Koffi did go to bring Brigade back
You think even CNN failed?? Especially in l’autre la?? CNN killed it on that Generique, it’s weird how the generiques weren’t well received compared to the others of the past because now they’re very popular especially heros national. Come to think of it I don’t think I’ve ever heard those generiques being played live.

it could be because of the style or sound of the generiques,i noticed the monde arabe  et danger de mort generiques have total opposite reactions its either very like or quite negatively reviewed as overrated  i was tempted to say its because of the fact it was partly recorded in kinshasa but then longitima also started and almost finished in kin only soleil's vocal i think was done in europe

Mfumu Vata #9 on: April 02, 2023, 19:41

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they did a pre-recording of Monde Arabe in Kinshasa (them not being sure if they would get visa's). But they ended up by re-recording the whole album in Europe. When Acide ran away, there was a point that Koffi was thinking about erasing Acide's voice and letting Kerozene do his cri's but Kerozene refused. During the tour, many Koffi fans were complaining that the atalaku-department was failing in concerts. Mainly due to people being used by the kerozene-brigade combo and affaire d'etat still having succes but them suddenly seeing acide, cnn and apocalyps and them not really being able to bring the same atmosphere back in concerts.

I think that the problem of Heroes National was them not having any pressure when recording the generique. Back when they started recording the album nobody released an album and because of the ngulu-affair it was not sure if those albums would come (quartier latin being the only band in the schengen-area). Then when the album got close to get released Koffi starting to have problems with justice in Kinshasa which delayed the release for months

Manzambi94 #10 on: April 02, 2023, 22:26

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For me everybody failed in Monde Arabe. Because of them Koffi had to justify in every interview that he isn’t an atalaku but a singer and giving more motivation to go for  rumba albums. Koffi did go to bring Brigade back
You think even CNN failed?? Especially in l’autre la?? CNN killed it on that Generique, it’s weird how the generiques weren’t well received compared to the others of the past because now they’re very popular especially heros national. Come to think of it I don’t think I’ve ever heard those generiques being played live.

it could be because of the style or sound of the generiques,i noticed the monde arabe  et danger de mort generiques have total opposite reactions its either very like or quite negatively reviewed as overrated  i was tempted to say its because of the fact it was partly recorded in kinshasa but then longitima also started and almost finished in kin only soleil's vocal i think was done in europe
O.O Longitima Skol was done in Kin? Broooo the quality of that song is supreme what is the name of that studio?

Mfumu Vata #11 on: April 02, 2023, 22:55

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studio ndiaye. at that time received a new equipment which made songs being of top quality. sound engineer JP Kyss Kyungu started to get praised in songs. It's in that era that bandleaders like Koffi, Werrason, JB Mpiana started to record albums in Kinshasa (Sous Sol, Bord Ezanga Kombo, Kipe Ya Yo, Techno Malewa, etc.)
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BienMat23 #12 on: April 03, 2023, 00:07

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what i also liked about cnn is that he could interpret animation of other atalakus and give it another feeling,and i am not talking about beevans mboshi somono before him, i am talking about those of his generation molayi bizima and co,for example the "midi midi tokolia pondu"animation by bizima look at how he transformed it on the attentat generique or how he transformed in integral the animation he found in cultura
I think there is nobody better at this than CNN

Wenge1995 #13 on: April 03, 2023, 04:47

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they did a pre-recording of Monde Arabe in Kinshasa (them not being sure if they would get visa's). But they ended up by re-recording the whole album in Europe. When Acide ran away, there was a point that Koffi was thinking about erasing Acide's voice and letting Kerozene do his cri's but Kerozene refused. During the tour, many Koffi fans were complaining that the atalaku-department was failing in concerts. Mainly due to people being used by the kerozene-brigade combo and affaire d'etat still having succes but them suddenly seeing acide, cnn and apocalyps and them not really being able to bring the same atmosphere back in concerts.

I think that the problem of Heroes National was them not having any pressure when recording the generique. Back when they started recording the album nobody released an album and because of the ngulu-affair it was not sure if those albums would come (quartier latin being the only band in the schengen-area). Then when the album got close to get released Koffi starting to have problems with justice in Kinshasa which delayed the release for months

Why did Acide run away? Did he fall out with Koffi?

Localh #14 on: April 03, 2023, 15:57

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For me everybody failed in Monde Arabe. Because of them Koffi had to justify in every interview that he isn’t an atalaku but a singer and giving more motivation to go for  rumba albums. Koffi did go to bring Brigade back
You think even CNN failed?? Especially in l’autre la?? CNN killed it on that Generique, it’s weird how the generiques weren’t well received compared to the others of the past because now they’re very popular especially heros national. Come to think of it I don’t think I’ve ever heard those generiques being played live.

I agree with Mfumu Vata. If you compare the animations from Monde Arabe to Affaire Dtat and Effrakata, there was a fall off there. This is an unpopular opinion but I think if Brigade was on Monde Arabe instead of CNN, that album may have been recieved differently since those were originally Brigades animations in the first place

Hearing Brigade doing his version of nzembo na music & ya manuele cri (originally Kerozenes cri) at the GHK show in 2003 i was confused at why he wasn’t on monde arabe, he killed it. I wanted to hear cambodge as well