Author Topic: BRIGADE FILES A COMPLAINT AGAINST WERRASON FOR COPYRIGHTS OF SIMA EKOLI AND CO  (Read 8151 times)


Franco Pepe Kalle #1 on: June 26, 2024, 04:41

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Brigade is right to ask for acknowledgement but he needs to prepare for Werrason's spokesmen to attack him viciously. This could lead to an ugly court war which may Brigade's image especially with Werrason fans.

Wenge1995 #2 on: June 26, 2024, 06:01

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How likely is it that Brigade will win? There are numerous videos of repetitions where you can see them rehearsing the cries, but it doesn't necessarily mean they're the author. As you've mentioned, a lot of cries come from street groups and the more established animators simply interpret the vocals for albums. However, I do feel like they should do a 50/50 split because maybe the leaders direct the general composition of the generique but the animation themselves are curated or "authored" on albums by atalakus.

It's interesting that these legal battles are occuring now when music sales are down. It would have been a big help to artists back in the 1990s and 2000s

CM PRINCE #3 on: June 26, 2024, 13:58

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If Brigade wins this case we’ll see a number of atalakus do the same thing. Because a lot have been complaining about the same thing, CNN went on Ado Yuhe and said they should be getting most royalties for generiques and Celeo supported him with that.

Wenge1995 #4 on: June 26, 2024, 15:17

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If Brigade wins this case we’ll see a number of atalakus do the same thing. Because a lot have been complaining about the same thing, CNN went on Ado Yuhe and said they should be getting most royalties for generiques and Celeo supported him with that.

I hope they get their share of the royalties because they blessed the group with great work. Those generiques endure the test of time just as strong as the rhumbas

Nkosi #5 on: June 27, 2024, 08:39

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He cannot win the case, he is acting out of total ignorance. Here is how it works: If Brigade produces a song under his name while under Werrason, then legally that is his song as it was produced and under his name. Brigade was employed by Werrason, while working for Werrason, he sang a part called Sima Ekoli in Werrason's generique called Techno Malewa. The song was produced by Werrason. At that point Brigade had zero rights to the part he sang on that song. There is no sane Judge who will rule in favour of Brigade because it will mean gutarists will also claim ownership and stop their former bosses from playing any song where they played guitar. Bill Gates isn't a scientist, he has employed scientists but he is the owner of the products they produce.

archos #6 on: June 27, 2024, 12:34

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i rewatched the interview and he said that he did not file a complaint as if to hurt or disrespect werra,but its the copyright company which forced his hand because the process is like that to reclaim your rights,some like suzuki ferre fally to name a few had to go through that to claim their quartier latin and wenge songs for example(which is part of the hard feelings which happened between them at some points)
and by the way guitarists and so on can fully claim composer and co rights,its just that our leaders are not honest enough
they know that if they make lets say 300K From a huge hit,the guitarist or drummer who composed the heart of the melody before the collective work can make 100k for example or even 50k as a composer,and he will no longer accept their funny treatments because he is now able to buy cars on his own,travel on his own so they go to the copyright companies claiming everything already
the fact in a purely legal field which will go against most our leaders is that the contribution of their artists is not paid in advance,maximum 2 of them can provide without making it up receipts of studio "salary" for their employees
its the same thing for the song writers,somebody like pida star wrote and fully pre-composed mayday for fally and carte rose for ferre arguably two of the 3/4 biggest hits of recent months but does not benefit even 0.000001 per cent of what he could,because its drc and influence wins,he comes to europe and brings his pre-records which is his way of operating to propose songs to artists it might be a completely different story

Tata Nkiadi #7 on: June 29, 2024, 07:18

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Unfortunately, depending on the jurisdiction Brigade may not have a case. He worked for Werra and he was paid on a retainer contract. These kids get hard ons working for these artists to get on signing performance contracts without lawyers. This is what happens when you don’t discuss publishing rights from the beginning.

archos #8 on: June 29, 2024, 09:30

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i believe in french juridiction what can go for him is that they might ask to see papers of the already paid contribution,i think it was the case with fally and suzuki when theywent solo  and since koffi was one of the rare to pay studio contribution sometimes they went for an amicable settlement
a lot of musicians have been in that position of having to be forced by company to file complaint to reclaim their rights and abandoned out of fear of criticism from people because it would be blown out of proportion as if they snitched on the leaders to get them on a life sentence

Nkosi #9 on: June 29, 2024, 11:14

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Archos, I think these are two different issues. Ferre can sue for Vita Imana because it was his song in that group album but Ferre cannot sue for his vocal on operational dragon because that was Werrason's song. This is the same with Brigade, he did not produce any song with werrason, what he had were vocals on a werrason's song. If copyrights worked like that then there is no single artist under the sun who owns copyrights to any song as whoever played a role can claim ownership. Brigade himself might not even claim copyrights because the instrumentalists who played on his vocal will also claim their share. Werrason who paid for that part of the vocal will also claim his share. In the end the whole thing will have no sane legal interpretation. What Brigade can claim is his salary if he was not paid and it has to be paid according to he contract he signed.

Tata Nkiadi #10 on: June 29, 2024, 13:25

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Archos, I think these are two different issues. Ferre can sue for Vita Imana because it was his song in that group album but Ferre cannot sue for his vocal on operational dragon because that was Werrason's song. This is the same with Brigade, he did not produce any song with werrason, what he had were vocals on a werrason's song. If copyrights worked like that then there is no single artist under the sun who owns copyrights to any song as whoever played a role can claim ownership. Brigade himself might not even claim copyrights because the instrumentalists who played on his vocal will also claim their share. Werrason who paid for that part of the vocal will also claim his share. In the end the whole thing will have no sane legal interpretation. What Brigade can claim is his salary if he was not paid and it has to be paid according to he contract he signed.

Bingo…publishing rights is the key here and instrumentalists/vocalists don’t get those unless they’re listed as songwriters or producers. French courts follow music law, so essentially Brigade doesn’t have a case.
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Tata Nkiadi #11 on: June 29, 2024, 13:57

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Archos, I think these are two different issues. Ferre can sue for Vita Imana because it was his song in that group album but Ferre cannot sue for his vocal on operational dragon because that was Werrason's song. This is the same with Brigade, he did not produce any song with werrason, what he had were vocals on a werrason's song. If copyrights worked like that then there is no single artist under the sun who owns copyrights to any song as whoever played a role can claim ownership. Brigade himself might not even claim copyrights because the instrumentalists who played on his vocal will also claim their share. Werrason who paid for that part of the vocal will also claim his share. In the end the whole thing will have no sane legal interpretation. What Brigade can claim is his salary if he was not paid and it has to be paid according to he contract he signed.

Bingo…publishing rights is the key here and instrumentalists/vocalists don’t get those unless they’re listed as songwriters or producers. French courts follow music law, so essentially Brigade doesn’t have a case.

Furthermore, who ever is advising him on this is giving him very bad advice and it will be detrimental to his career, which he barely has, if he loses.

archos #12 on: June 29, 2024, 15:49

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Yeah i get you guys now,i believe its the copyright company which automatically advises it like that,celeo aswell faced that problem  years before when he came to france when going to apply there and having to present his work,but then refused the process of filing against werra
now the major issue is that those guys mostly get nothing for their participation,their participation depends on the good willing of the leader in the first place,which leads to yet another problem of people doing other's work at times like how kirikou or late nono chaka were facing
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BR #13 on: June 30, 2024, 08:32

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Lets talk of Fally first album which was Fally's album under QLI band members. If instrumentals, vocalists etc want to claim a thing who do they go to? Fally or Koffi? The answer is Fally because the album is under his name even though QLI manned other sections.

Paysan Congolais #14 on: July 01, 2024, 18:30

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Brigade has a claim. f the cri belongs to him, he can claim that he's one of the authors of the song.

Look at  US's artists songs today: you have dozen of names...

Brigade just have to prove that the cri belongs to him and since he never signed a contract with Werra, he's good.