i dont mean in their first years guys,proof is that event with flamme was almost towards the middle of their solo careers,i am talking about the recent years,were they are acting like they are 60 and have completed solo career targets and can relax
i use the weight factor as an example of their drop of discipline and motivation, both are guys who had part of their fame on their looks/dressing and it clearly changes with the amount of weight they put on even though celeo tries to show the opposite with his stubborn attitude
sometimes about them i say to myself if drc was a serious country,they could have somebody like werra still on their back as some sort of external manager maintaining pressure on them and giving them strategies to exploit(like with some other artists,there could have been a structure created by ministry of culture or a private organism for werra and a couple of others guiding young talent)
they've clearly let the freedom of leadership completely absorb their hunger and it shows even with their voice,no way on earth a bill under control of prime werra(in terms of being very demanding) would have looked like he could suffocate about 5 times while just performing solola bien which is not even a fast song at arafat's burial,imagine werra was even in that prime of standards literally sending people to drag his musicians on top of a woman just to protect their voice like lacoste before the bercy concert where lacoste was surprised that werra was even aware that he was sleeping one of his sugarmommies and sankara came to drag him off bed,because of how werra was having incredibly tight control on their discipline and was spying them,people like celeo and heritier had countless little suspensions for being spied talking too much with their guys one two days before concerts because they had to rest their chords to be at highest performance,now if both bill and celeo want to chew 3 big macs then sleep with a sidekick minutes before going on stage who has something to say