Author Topic: Isn't it weird that Koffi posted a teaser of Hippodrome while Nseka passed away?  (Read 3875 times)

Mfumu Vata on: January 06, 2025, 22:42

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Is he holding a grudge towards Nseka for accepting Fally's offer to go Europe or is he not informed about his death ?

CM PRINCE #1 on: January 06, 2025, 23:27

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Let's not read too much into it at the moment, it's possible he wasn't aware at the time because it's still not breaking news but at the same time news like that travels fast so I don't know.

Franco Pepe Kalle #2 on: January 06, 2025, 23:53

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If he knows about his death and does not mention it, it has more likely to due with their fallout years prior to Fally getting Nseka into Europe. However I am with CM Prince, that probably Koffi was not informed yet. He will probably do a tribute post to him or so I hope so.

Localh #3 on: January 08, 2025, 02:52

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Let's not read too much into it at the moment, it's possible he wasn't aware at the time because it's still not breaking news but at the same time news like that travels fast so I don't know.

Hows everyone on social media in the Congolese community aware & not him? He would’ve definitely known before it hit social media whether they fell out or not

Manzambi94 #4 on: January 09, 2025, 21:40

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Guys, not qll things are for social media, Mimiche Bass Maison Mere Bassist passed away some time ago, Ferre didn't post about his death for a while on social media and because Mimiche was like his brother...
Sometimes people just want to grief in peace and without social media knowing what they feel about the person passing.

Mfumu Vata #5 on: January 09, 2025, 23:16

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It's not about Koffi not posting about Nseka. The thing is that Nseka passed away and Koffi a few hours later posting about the event at Hippodrome. It's a weird action and he also didn't delete it afterwards. Looks like he's still angry about the stuff that happened in 2006, how Zoulou's helped dancers run away while Nseka was safeguarding them and the dancers later sueing Koffi for rape, which made him not come to Europe for years.


Some people talked about Koffi posting the video during Nseka's death in the comments, the day he posted it (I don't know if the comments are still there), but Koffi-fanatics defending him, saying that he became a warrior (fally-fan), forgetting everything Nseka did for Quartier Latin since he joined in 1988 and his comeback in 1991 till Abacadabra. He never ran away during all the Europe-tours he participated on, he also informed Koffi about everything, snitched on collegues, also did dirty mission for Koffi also against rivals (that I will not mention here). Also he used to safeguard the dancers at Koffi's house in France during Europe-tours. Next to it, he was the first one who openly disagreed about Fally doing an album in Quartier Latin, shouting all loud during the reunion.


Nobody knows that the songs Nseka released under his name in Quartier Latin are at SACEM credited on Koffi's name like other QL-members that released songs in QL-albums and Koffi getting royalties from it every 6 months until this day

Wenge1995 #6 on: January 09, 2025, 23:51

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It's not about Koffi not posting about Nseka. The thing is that Nseka passed away and Koffi a few hours later posting about the event at Hippodrome. It's a weird action and he also didn't delete it afterwards. Looks like he's still angry about the stuff that happened in 2006, how Zoulou's helped dancers run away while Nseka was safeguarding them and the dancers later sueing Koffi for rape, which made him not come to Europe for years.


Some people talked about Koffi posting the video during Nseka's death in the comments, the day he posted it (I don't know if the comments are still there), but Koffi-fanatics defending him, saying that he became a warrior (fally-fan), forgetting everything Nseka did for Quartier Latin since he joined in 1988 and his comeback in 1991 till Abacadabra. He never ran away during all the Europe-tours he participated on, he also informed Koffi about everything, snitched on collegues, also did dirty mission for Koffi also against rivals (that I will not mention here). Also he used to safeguard the dancers at Koffi's house in France during Europe-tours. Next to it, he was the first one who openly disagreed about Fally doing an album in Quartier Latin, shouting all loud during the reunion.


Nobody knows that the songs Nseka released under his name in Quartier Latin are at SACEM credited on Koffi's name like other QL-members that released songs in QL-albums and Koffi getting royalties from it every 6 months until this day

All these years later, why hasn't SACEM given the royalties to the members of Quartier Latin? I'm surprised they haven't sued because there's numerous videos where Koffi and the artist differentiate group albums from solo albums. A lawsuit to renegotiate their share of those songs shouldn't be too challenging, I'm surprised no one has sued a long time ago.

What about Fally? He is the most known and financially successful member of Quartier Latin, did he ever manage to secure the rights to his songs on group albums or does Koffi still profit from them today?

Why do group albums if you won't share the royalties lol just make all of the albums solo albums

archos #7 on: January 10, 2025, 00:36

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fally ferre and suzuki to name a few managed to claim their songs,but most of them dont
back on koffi and nseka there must be something very serious behind the scenes "around fally" for koffi to be this radical
i  mean "around fally" since the reasons given are the grudge over the dancers and him like champion "picking fally side"
because in a normal context even with some conflicts,koffi would pop out with a smoking and a tie and bring out his best blues singer talking voice to release a message

archos #8 on: January 10, 2025, 01:06

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Koffi will be guest of sango israel today he'll surely be asked about his lack of tribute to passe kosse and seguin

Mfumu Vata #9 on: January 10, 2025, 15:00

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It's not about Koffi not posting about Nseka. The thing is that Nseka passed away and Koffi a few hours later posting about the event at Hippodrome. It's a weird action and he also didn't delete it afterwards. Looks like he's still angry about the stuff that happened in 2006, how Zoulou's helped dancers run away while Nseka was safeguarding them and the dancers later sueing Koffi for rape, which made him not come to Europe for years.


Some people talked about Koffi posting the video during Nseka's death in the comments, the day he posted it (I don't know if the comments are still there), but Koffi-fanatics defending him, saying that he became a warrior (fally-fan), forgetting everything Nseka did for Quartier Latin since he joined in 1988 and his comeback in 1991 till Abacadabra. He never ran away during all the Europe-tours he participated on, he also informed Koffi about everything, snitched on collegues, also did dirty mission for Koffi also against rivals (that I will not mention here). Also he used to safeguard the dancers at Koffi's house in France during Europe-tours. Next to it, he was the first one who openly disagreed about Fally doing an album in Quartier Latin, shouting all loud during the reunion.


Nobody knows that the songs Nseka released under his name in Quartier Latin are at SACEM credited on Koffi's name like other QL-members that released songs in QL-albums and Koffi getting royalties from it every 6 months until this day

All these years later, why hasn't SACEM given the royalties to the members of Quartier Latin? I'm surprised they haven't sued because there's numerous videos where Koffi and the artist differentiate group albums from solo albums. A lawsuit to renegotiate their share of those songs shouldn't be too challenging, I'm surprised no one has sued a long time ago.

What about Fally? He is the most known and financially successful member of Quartier Latin, did he ever manage to secure the rights to his songs on group albums or does Koffi still profit from them today?

Why do group albums if you won't share the royalties lol just make all of the albums solo albums


Koffi is not the only one that does that. There was a video on youtube, where almost all bandleaders were exposed of crediting songs of their bandmembers to themselves in SACEM.

Releasing solo-albums is something that is recent. Back in the days it was rare to see bandleaders release solo-albums. They would often do it during Europe tours who were there once in the 2 or in some cases 4 years. When releasing albums it was mostly a LP with 4 songs, where 2 tracks were credited to the bandleaders and the remaining two to bandmembers. The same when LP’s with 6 songs started to get released (3 songs for the bandleader and the remaining 3 to the bandmembers). Solo-albums were mostly for Europe-based artists that tried to make a name in Congolese community living in Brussels and those who tried to establish themselves in Kinshasa (Koffi Olomide is one of them). There also those who disappeared from the music-scene and then decided to record a solo-album to make a comeback (for example Lita Bembo in the 1980s). You had also those who were bandmembers and wanted to make quick money, by recording a solo-album, them in most cases getting suspended once returning in Kinshasa, like the way they were often punished in Kinshasa after secretly recording a single or doing a nzong-nzing with other artists. Only artists from Choc Stars had such freedom to record solo-albums and do nzong-nzings.





When Viva la Musica settled in Europe, bandmembers were also free to release solo-albums. But it was still rare to see bandleaders that had success in Kinshasa to release solo-albums every year. Someone like Nyoka Longo has until this day just no solo-album. It’s with Koffi’s influence after he became big, that bandleaders started to structure their album-releases, by releasing one year a group-album and the other year a solo-album and not more releasing 2 or 3 albums in one year of 8 or 6 tracks with songs that are divided between them and bandmembers.




Bandleaders did release group-albums, because next to showing the talents of their bandmembers, it also contributed to boosted their success even more. If they weren’t giving that opportunity and adopted Fally’s strategy in the 1990s, then most of them would already have been finished and a new generation of artists having replaced them. I think that there would not have been Olympia, Zenith’s and Bercy’s, unless an artist having the luck to do world-music and being boosted very hard by his label, like you had Cesaria Evora from Cape Verde, Alpha Blondy of Ivory Coast or Khaled from Algeria and have discipline that Wemba lacked to have when working with Martin Meissonier (There were projects to perform in the future at Palais des Sports and Olympia, but the contract got cut off, because of Wemba refusing to stop singing in the community and albums of his bandmembers. He was lucky to sign with Peter Gabriel later, but there was no project to hit the mythic halls of Paris).







Former’ Victoria Eleison drummer Signore Depatra Uomo said in an interview with Teddy Mola, that the Olympia’s, Zenith’s and Bercy’s that Koffi, Wemba, JB, Werra, Emeneya and Adolphe did are not theirs but the work of streetsbands like Promise Musica, SVP La Gamme and co, that tried to succeed like Wenge 4x4, but didn’t get the opportunity and just joined their bands.



Bouro Mpela said when rejoining Quartier Latin after 13eme Apotre, that he had a huge contribution on Koffi finishing his swimming pool at Montfleury for the way, he danced in the Loi-clips. I don’t know if it was Miette Shegue or Nono ba Diamants, but one of them said that its because of them (the dancers) that Koffi was able to finish his villa of Montfleury and that they had a big contribution of Koffi’s fame.

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Mfumu Vata #10 on: January 10, 2025, 15:01

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fally ferre and suzuki to name a few managed to claim their songs,but most of them dont
back on koffi and nseka there must be something very serious behind the scenes "around fally" for koffi to be this radical
i  mean "around fally" since the reasons given are the grudge over the dancers and him like champion "picking fally side"
because in a normal context even with some conflicts,koffi would pop out with a smoking and a tie and bring out his best blues singer talking voice to release a message

Don't you think that Cindy also have some influence over it. Because I noticed that Koffi changed alot these last years and is also less forgiving now compared to the past

CM PRINCE #11 on: January 10, 2025, 17:49

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fally ferre and suzuki to name a few managed to claim their songs,but most of them dont
back on koffi and nseka there must be something very serious behind the scenes "around fally" for koffi to be this radical
i  mean "around fally" since the reasons given are the grudge over the dancers and him like champion "picking fally side"
because in a normal context even with some conflicts,koffi would pop out with a smoking and a tie and bring out his best blues singer talking voice to release a message

Don't you think that Cindy also have some influence over it. Because I noticed that Koffi changed alot these last years and is also less forgiving now compared to the past
I was gonna say the same thing, Koffi used to be so forgiving and has forgiven musicians or dancers for far less but nowadays seems to really hold a grudge against people. Even the Passe Kosse he indirectly fired him from the group and never explained why and even Passe Kosse didn’t know what he did so how can he expect him to remain a pro Koffi guy lol

archos #12 on: January 10, 2025, 18:17

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just watched his interview with sango,he really has changed in terms of grudge,he was quite agressive at some point when asked about seguin and completely avoiding mentioning jb because jb did not send him condolences for mama amy and papa charles,and still is firing shots at sam tshintu for sam saying that koffi came himself to recruit him and so on
but anyways with congolese musicians anything is good publicity at the end of the day,it was not even over that some parts were already on socials
i think the level of insult that generation of internet woman had towards him about mama amy is what really turned him that radical,and literally reignited every single of his hidden grudges,notice how its from the same periods also onwards that he started going hard on popolipo despite popolipo expressing his upset about him for more than 10 years and he was even clearly saying in the past that he wishes popolipo can forgive him and come and play on one of his albums again and now he rubbishes popolipo and says tyson is far superior and so on
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Manzambi94 #13 on: January 10, 2025, 22:01

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just watched his interview with sango,he really has changed in terms of grudge,he was quite agressive at some point when asked about seguin and completely avoiding mentioning jb because jb did not send him condolences for mama amy and papa charles,and still is firing shots at sam tshintu for sam saying that koffi came himself to recruit him and so on
but anyways with congolese musicians anything is good publicity at the end of the day,it was not even over that some parts were already on socials
i think the level of insult that generation of internet woman had towards him about mama amy is what really turned him that radical,and literally reignited every single of his hidden grudges,notice how its from the same periods also onwards that he started going hard on popolipo despite popolipo expressing his upset about him for more than 10 years and he was even clearly saying in the past that he wishes popolipo can forgive him and come and play on one of his albums again and now he rubbishes popolipo and says tyson is far superior and so on
It is becoming quite sad now. He is almost or close to 70 years old, he is one of the biggest musicians and singers and songwriter in Congo and in Africa, why does he keeps behaving like this? I can understand him holding grudge against JB despite that being missed up, but not really.the grudge towards Passe Kosse, why do Congolese leaders always fail to mention 100 things good you have done for them but then wanting to hold grudge for one "bad" thing you have allegedly done? With that said If Passe Kosse was thr factor or one of the leaving factor of people accusing him of rape I can understand his grudges.

CM PRINCE #14 on: January 11, 2025, 00:13

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just watched his interview with sango,he really has changed in terms of grudge,he was quite agressive at some point when asked about seguin and completely avoiding mentioning jb because jb did not send him condolences for mama amy and papa charles,and still is firing shots at sam tshintu for sam saying that koffi came himself to recruit him and so on
but anyways with congolese musicians anything is good publicity at the end of the day,it was not even over that some parts were already on socials
i think the level of insult that generation of internet woman had towards him about mama amy is what really turned him that radical,and literally reignited every single of his hidden grudges,notice how its from the same periods also onwards that he started going hard on popolipo despite popolipo expressing his upset about him for more than 10 years and he was even clearly saying in the past that he wishes popolipo can forgive him and come and play on one of his albums again and now he rubbishes popolipo and says tyson is far superior and so on
You know what I kinda understand, a loss of a parent let alone two in a few years apart does change you. Also the fact his father died in Europe whilst he was stuck in Congo played a part and Mama Amy usually kept Koffi grounded so the fact that she's not there probably made him lose it. Him also losing his golden children Didi Stone, St James rolls and Delpirlo also didn't help matters I'm sure.