I’m amazed every time 20+ years on how on point everything was, from the tightness of the bass combined with tuning of the drumset, Lebou’s solo, and the mbonda/shakers. With pure acoustics and no 90’s era synthesizers, the music sounds it could’ve been released this year



It’s hard for me to swallow the music he’s making now when he used to make songs like this

Lol pathy bass played on this album like "you motherfxxker you will see what you missed out on for leaving me behind for years "

For me it’s still crazy how he went back to Europe and took Mboshi, Somono, Lebou, Felly Tyson, Pathy Bass and Champion to re-record the Sebene songs on the album and also the generique. I wonder what it originally sounded like before they re-recorded it because in ultimatum the sebene is far less aggressive and Lebou and Pathy weren’t there for the ultimatum recordings 

For me it’s still crazy how he went back to Europe and took Mboshi, Somono, Lebou, Felly Tyson, Pathy Bass and Champion to re-record the Sebene songs on the album and also the generique. I wonder what it originally sounded like before they re-recorded it because in ultimatum the sebene is far less aggressive and Lebou and Pathy weren’t there for the ultimatum recordings

Was he not happy with the initial mix of the album? I'm also surprised he released two albums in one year, didn't it undermine the success of Ultimatum? I'm guessing Koffi didn't want to get left behind when ndomnolo craze happened

The recordings of Loi during the Ultimatum tour were actually pre-recordings. Quartier Latin was supposed to return to the studio to finalize everything. Koffi Olomidé even had the idea of bringing Babia back to participate in the final version. But in the end, Koffi found the voix témoins perfect and simply decided to use them as they were. Him just decided to bring the instrumentalists and atalaku's to add cri's that were making people in Kinshasa dance (Bayeba te, Yungana, Ndombolo, Kuza na Mpimpa, Mbanza nge Moyo, etc.) which would bands like Wenge 4x4 and Wenge El Paris piss off when hearing the end product, who were seeing themselves as creators of these cri's. 


Ultimatum was meant for 1996, but the Wake-Up project delayed the album. Koffi losing the recording-files and them being forced to-record the album again Europe, made the album delay even to get released in March 1997. Ultimatum was a huge succes. Loi undermined Ultimatum succes, but it was not that people stopped listening to it. Also it was an era were artists used to release albums every year and different albums being on the market. Maybe that Koffi didn't want to miss out on December. Back in the days, December was the best moment to release an album, because people would like to have something new to dance with christmas and go into the new year. Talking about it, 1 months ago, I saw several videos of people complaining on tiktok about new year in Kinshasa being boring and back in the days people always having something to dance with (coming with different videos of generiques that came out in november/december).

The years of 1993-1995 were about aggresive sebene, distortion, etc. But due to the succes of folkloric band Kibinda Nkoy, many bands deciding to slow down and adapt to their style of playing bass, drums more focused on the snare drums, also came with slower but very melodious solo participations inspired from folklore "Agbaya". Quartier Latin adopted it as well, but Felly Tyson interpreted the style on his own way and not how most guitarist used to do. Wenge Musica didn't copy them musically, but just copied them by putting instead Skol-bottles, TelCel Phones in their backpocket when dancing Ndombolo. They also had their own version of the dance of Kibinda Nkoy which is basically Ndombolo but with more parts added to it.

Here some examples of the style






Here images of Kibinda Nkoy performing with Papy Kakol on the drums and Clovis Silawuka Ngouma on the bass. Koffi Olomidé even became their godfather and gave them special thanks for the dance and cri Kibinda Nkoy on the credits of his show in Abidjan (december 1995).



Nobody really knows how the album sounded in the studio, but it’s possible that it was already similar to what we hear on Ultimatum. If there’s one thing artists in the 1990s tried to avoid, it was monotony. However, it’s likely that the sebenes of Micko and Motomolo remained the same as in the pre-recordings, since Felly Tyson was already playing them in concerts back in 1996 and during the European tour. They probably just made some adjustments and had Pathy Bass re-record all the bass parts for the sebene sections.

For me it’s still crazy how he went back to Europe and took Mboshi, Somono, Lebou, Felly Tyson, Pathy Bass and Champion to re-record the Sebene songs on the album and also the generique. I wonder what it originally sounded like before they re-recorded it because in ultimatum the sebene is far less aggressive and Lebou and Pathy weren’t there for the ultimatum recordings

Yeah, with Loi générique being recorded last minute (apparently Oct-Nov 1997) just before final mixing, it’s almost a miracle it came out and became the most famous générique of all time. Koffi himself must’ve been surprised at the success of it

I’m glad I’m not the only one noticing this. The sonics on this album is unmatched… If you heard the loi album for the first time you’d think the album came out recently.

Let’s not forget the mixing and mastering of the album. Mixed By – Hervé Marignac, Rodolphe Sanguinetti Also mastered by: Mastered By – Raphaël Jonin that also contributed to the sound of loi

For me it’s still crazy how he went back to Europe and took Mboshi, Somono, Lebou, Felly Tyson, Pathy Bass and Champion to re-record the Sebene songs on the album and also the generique. I wonder what it originally sounded like before they re-recorded it because in ultimatum the sebene is far less aggressive and Lebou and Pathy weren’t there for the ultimatum recordings

no wonder lebou and pathy delivered a "fuelled by hate" performance lol must have been soooo pissed to be left behind
by the way off topic but still about koffi did you guys see  a lot of warriors page saying that washington of effrakata was a fally song which he gifted to koffi?

The recordings of Loi during the Ultimatum tour were actually pre-recordings. Quartier Latin was supposed to return to the studio to finalize everything. Koffi Olomidé even had the idea of bringing Babia back to participate in the final version. But in the end, Koffi found the voix témoins perfect and simply decided to use them as they were. Him just decided to bring the instrumentalists and atalaku's to add cri's that were making people in Kinshasa dance (Bayeba te, Yungana, Ndombolo, Kuza na Mpimpa, Mbanza nge Moyo, etc.) which would bands like Wenge 4x4 and Wenge El Paris piss off when hearing the end product, who were seeing themselves as creators of these cri's. 


Ultimatum was meant for 1996, but the Wake-Up project delayed the album. Koffi losing the recording-files and them being forced to-record the album again Europe, made the album delay even to get released in March 1997. Ultimatum was a huge succes. Loi undermined Ultimatum succes, but it was not that people stopped listening to it. Also it was an era were artists used to release albums every year and different albums being on the market. Maybe that Koffi didn't want to miss out on December. Back in the days, December was the best moment to release an album, because people would like to have something new to dance with christmas and go into the new year. Talking about it, 1 months ago, I saw several videos of people complaining on tiktok about new year in Kinshasa being boring and back in the days people always having something to dance with (coming with different videos of generiques that came out in november/december).

The years of 1993-1995 were about aggresive sebene, distortion, etc. But due to the succes of folkloric band Kibinda Nkoy, many bands deciding to slow down and adapt to their style of playing bass, drums more focused on the snare drums, also came with slower but very melodious solo participations inspired from folklore "Agbaya". Quartier Latin adopted it as well, but Felly Tyson interpreted the style on his own way and not how most guitarist used to do. Wenge Musica didn't copy them musically, but just copied them by putting instead Skol-bottles, TelCel Phones in their backpocket when dancing Ndombolo. They also had their own version of the dance of Kibinda Nkoy which is basically Ndombolo but with more parts added to it.

Here some examples of the style






Here images of Kibinda Nkoy performing with Papy Kakol on the drums and Clovis Silawuka Ngouma on the bass. Koffi Olomidé even became their godfather and gave them special thanks for the dance and cri Kibinda Nkoy on the credits of his show in Abidjan (december 1995).



Nobody really knows how the album sounded in the studio, but it’s possible that it was already similar to what we hear on Ultimatum. If there’s one thing artists in the 1990s tried to avoid, it was monotony. However, it’s likely that the sebenes of Micko and Motomolo remained the same as in the pre-recordings, since Felly Tyson was already playing them in concerts back in 1996 and during the European tour. They probably just made some adjustments and had Pathy Bass re-record all the bass parts for the sebene sections.

Artist have 3-4 years between albums, they can't have too long between albums because the cries on the generique are old having been used for too many concerts and repetitions.

For me it’s still crazy how he went back to Europe and took Mboshi, Somono, Lebou, Felly Tyson, Pathy Bass and Champion to re-record the Sebene songs on the album and also the generique. I wonder what it originally sounded like before they re-recorded it because in ultimatum the sebene is far less aggressive and Lebou and Pathy weren’t there for the ultimatum recordings

no wonder lebou and pathy delivered a "fuelled by hate" performance lol must have been soooo pissed to be left behind
by the way off topic but still about koffi did you guys see  a lot of warriors page saying that washington of effrakata was a fally song which he gifted to koffi?

lol, since when did Fally begin composing rhumbas start to finish himself…. These warriors are talking just to talk

For me it’s still crazy how he went back to Europe and took Mboshi, Somono, Lebou, Felly Tyson, Pathy Bass and Champion to re-record the Sebene songs on the album and also the generique. I wonder what it originally sounded like before they re-recorded it because in ultimatum the sebene is far less aggressive and Lebou and Pathy weren’t there for the ultimatum recordings

Yeah, with Loi générique being recorded last minute (apparently Oct-Nov 1997) just before final mixing, it’s almost a miracle it came out and became the most famous générique of all time. Koffi himself must’ve been surprised at the success of it

And the fact that even the band members apart from those 6 guys that went back with Koffi to finish the album didn’t even know what the generique sounded like. I remember Sam Tshintu said in an interview they all heard it for the very first time on the radio.

The recordings of Loi during the Ultimatum tour were actually pre-recordings. Quartier Latin was supposed to return to the studio to finalize everything. Koffi Olomidé even had the idea of bringing Babia back to participate in the final version. But in the end, Koffi found the voix témoins perfect and simply decided to use them as they were. Him just decided to bring the instrumentalists and atalaku's to add cri's that were making people in Kinshasa dance (Bayeba te, Yungana, Ndombolo, Kuza na Mpimpa, Mbanza nge Moyo, etc.) which would bands like Wenge 4x4 and Wenge El Paris piss off when hearing the end product, who were seeing themselves as creators of these cri's. 


Ultimatum was meant for 1996, but the Wake-Up project delayed the album. Koffi losing the recording-files and them being forced to-record the album again Europe, made the album delay even to get released in March 1997. Ultimatum was a huge succes. Loi undermined Ultimatum succes, but it was not that people stopped listening to it. Also it was an era were artists used to release albums every year and different albums being on the market. Maybe that Koffi didn't want to miss out on December. Back in the days, December was the best moment to release an album, because people would like to have something new to dance with christmas and go into the new year. Talking about it, 1 months ago, I saw several videos of people complaining on tiktok about new year in Kinshasa being boring and back in the days people always having something to dance with (coming with different videos of generiques that came out in november/december).

The years of 1993-1995 were about aggresive sebene, distortion, etc. But due to the succes of folkloric band Kibinda Nkoy, many bands deciding to slow down and adapt to their style of playing bass, drums more focused on the snare drums, also came with slower but very melodious solo participations inspired from folklore "Agbaya". Quartier Latin adopted it as well, but Felly Tyson interpreted the style on his own way and not how most guitarist used to do. Wenge Musica didn't copy them musically, but just copied them by putting instead Skol-bottles, TelCel Phones in their backpocket when dancing Ndombolo. They also had their own version of the dance of Kibinda Nkoy which is basically Ndombolo but with more parts added to it.

Here some examples of the style






Here images of Kibinda Nkoy performing with Papy Kakol on the drums and Clovis Silawuka Ngouma on the bass. Koffi Olomidé even became their godfather and gave them special thanks for the dance and cri Kibinda Nkoy on the credits of his show in Abidjan (december 1995).



Nobody really knows how the album sounded in the studio, but it’s possible that it was already similar to what we hear on Ultimatum. If there’s one thing artists in the 1990s tried to avoid, it was monotony. However, it’s likely that the sebenes of Micko and Motomolo remained the same as in the pre-recordings, since Felly Tyson was already playing them in concerts back in 1996 and during the European tour. They probably just made some adjustments and had Pathy Bass re-record all the bass parts for the sebene sections.

Artist have 3-4 years between albums, they can't have too long between albums because the cries on the generique are old having been used for too many concerts and repetitions.

Except for JB, I have never seen an artist being able to generate such hype taking on average 10 years between releases, plus Balle De Match should have come already out (way before Seguin, Zulema and jb's daughter's passing) but no where to be found.

For me it’s still crazy how he went back to Europe and took Mboshi, Somono, Lebou, Felly Tyson, Pathy Bass and Champion to re-record the Sebene songs on the album and also the generique. I wonder what it originally sounded like before they re-recorded it because in ultimatum the sebene is far less aggressive and Lebou and Pathy weren’t there for the ultimatum recordings

Yeah, with Loi générique being recorded last minute (apparently Oct-Nov 1997) just before final mixing, it’s almost a miracle it came out and became the most famous générique of all time. Koffi himself must’ve been surprised at the success of it

O.O that's insane