Author Topic: THIS GENERIQUE BY KOFFI COULDVE BEEN GREAT IF THERE WASNT SO MUCH START AND STOP  (Read 268 times)

CM PRINCE on: June 18, 2025, 19:35

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I like some parts especially 3:55 and 9:00, I hate that they did so much cut and stop same thing with Danger De Mort Generique. This sounds like it was originally meant to be the 2nd Generique in danger de mort but didn’t make the cut because some of the sebene they were already playing it at concerts in 2005 but it didn’t make the album especially 5:29 with the synthe they’d dance Kisanola to it.

archos #1 on: June 18, 2025, 20:31

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reminds me of power 001 with the unnecessarily long intro before boussole passes it to identite and it kicks then kasangidi at the end with some unnecessary stuff as well,haha it became the trend at that time to have 10 plus minutes generiques
still impressed with how bouro completely changes his voice doing animation at times

Jeffrey Sirjeza Sibanda #2 on: June 18, 2025, 22:46

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reminds me of power 001 with the unnecessarily long intro before boussole passes it to identite and it kicks then kasangidi at the end with some unnecessary stuff as well,haha it became the trend at that time to have 10 plus minutes generiques
still impressed with how bouro completely changes his voice doing animation at times
Power 001 there is hand over take over from idantite to Kabuya🔥🔥🔥 without the unnecessary staff you mentioned this was going to have even bigger impact.

Jeffrey Sirjeza Sibanda #3 on: June 18, 2025, 22:48

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I like some parts especially 3:55 and 9:00, I hate that they did so much cut and stop same thing with Danger De Mort Generique. This sounds like it was originally meant to be the 2nd Generique in danger de mort but didn’t make the cut because some of the sebene they were already playing it at concerts in 2005 but it didn’t make the album especially 5:29 with the synthe they’d dance Kisanola to it.
All these contributes heavily to Seben decline, imagine play 9 minutes song with all that unnecessary staff while Nigerians come in and throw a 2:50sec song nowadays the new generation has a very low concentration span 13 minutes on 1 song will be a half album in Nigeria (almost 5 songs)

CM PRINCE #4 on: June 18, 2025, 22:49

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Lool I actually like the Power 001 générique with the intro. It’s the end part that I was like okay that wasn’t necessary. But this one swi it was just all over the place but oh yeah Bouro’s voice changes is impressive even in affaire d’état

archos #5 on: June 18, 2025, 23:39

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yeah the intro is cool,i think its just two minutes too long,it starts getting interesting when tangofort gets involved,and my word the transition from le petit,he never got the credit he deserved because he was in alvarito's shadow
man we were blessed with generiques in that period,now even the don of generiques werrason has gone nearly 7 years without a generique

Yadouble #6 on: June 19, 2025, 01:29

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I like some parts especially 3:55 and 9:00, I hate that they did so much cut and stop same thing with Danger De Mort Generique. This sounds like it was originally meant to be the 2nd Generique in danger de mort but didn’t make the cut because some of the sebene they were already playing it at concerts in 2005 but it didn’t make the album especially 5:29 with the synthe they’d dance Kisanola to it.
I don't know the Seben started well but after the initial lick at 4:33 I don't think this Sebene said anything special

Yadouble #7 on: June 19, 2025, 01:35

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reminds me of power 001 with the unnecessarily long intro before boussole passes it to identite and it kicks then kasangidi at the end with some unnecessary stuff as well,haha it became the trend at that time to have 10 plus minutes generiques
still impressed with how bouro completely changes his voice doing animation at times
I disagree, that slow buold up is actually what make Pwoer 001 special, it is actually in my top 3 Favourite Fally's fenerique the slow buold up being long was actually great to dance at parties



Especially with the ya sumbila mwana simba lipapa'a bana or something similar, at 3:48 I think by Dubai and the choir going ah la la laaaa gives it something special, and then rhe change to Sehen at 6:11 it is just special what Fally went wrong was at 10:48 when the Seben leave to give that awful Abobolais D'Oriengo type of style he did it fine.in the first half but after the Sbeen ended it felt.repetitive

Yadouble #8 on: June 19, 2025, 01:44

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I like some parts especially 3:55 and 9:00, I hate that they did so much cut and stop same thing with Danger De Mort Generique. This sounds like it was originally meant to be the 2nd Generique in danger de mort but didn’t make the cut because some of the sebene they were already playing it at concerts in 2005 but it didn’t make the album especially 5:29 with the synthe they’d dance Kisanola to it.
All these contributes heavily to Seben decline, imagine play 9 minutes song with all that unnecessary staff while Nigerians come in and throw a 2:50sec song nowadays the new generation has a very low concentration span 13 minutes on 1 song will be a half album in Nigeria (almost 5 songs)
That isn't the reason why Sebene lost to Nigerians, Congolese leaders don't have enough people who are blunt and honest because these people know that if they do they will get fired, what killed Sebene was the advent of Rhumba and Congolese leaders being obsessed with trends instead of staying glue to their formula, Rhumba being seen better then Sebene waa driven by two main factors first Ferre and Fally, focusing on Rhumbas and getting a huge success from it and Donors keep giving money to 30 rhumba songs albums and leaders not caring about the art enough to focus on trying to change the donor mind to make Seben,  Ferre wanted to do something exmtrely different than Maison Mere's style due to how he was treated and after the Sens Interdit generique being pure Ndombolo Congolais style after that he started to only focus on Rhumba and not caring about the générique so bad that he let his atalakus handle it by themselves, Ferre got popular and along with Fally being pushed and promoted heavily by Werra with Fally's success Rhumba became the genre that leaders started to prioritize, trust me people from all over africa prefer a 13 minutes long Seben then the random Nigerian afrobeat song try to put Loi by Koffi in any party and Soweto by Victony or any Burna Boy song and see which song gets danced to the most, I was actually surprised in hearing even Ethiopian people telling me that they love Congolese music, but the problem is if leaders are busy following trends and youngster are not interested in making Sebene, who is gonna make Seben songs? No one, if you notice groups like Zaiko despite having multiple decades of career has no trouble reaching millions of views


Despite them not being the most technological and not being the best promoters of their music, why? Cause people love Seben.
JB is almost at 10 mil views with a Seben song the same JB who doesn't have a single idea on how to promote music, why? Cause people will pay attention if you make a nice Sebene



Pls look at the gospel concerts by Congolese French or Belgian gospel artist packed with people in Europe not even in Congo but in Europe, this means there is demand for Seben, we have trouble promoting it in the right channel, Korean people despite making songs in Korean are able to reach a global audience, Congolese people don't not because the music isn't good but we don't know how to market, and guess what after Innoss already successful song Yo Pe (even tho it isn't Seben) got a crazy amount of views




68 milion with Congo internet Access being 30% and Congo Kin having 111.261.039 people it is like 33 milion people and given that Congo has a lot of families this means virtually every Congolese know this song, then Diamond Platinumz came to remix the song which structurally remain the same and guess what?




251 milion views when you will read this message will be probably 252 milion views with a song in Lingala pure Lingala And some small Swahili part see the power of Promotion?



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Seben_Maniac #9 on: June 19, 2025, 02:41

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archos #10 on: June 19, 2025, 10:56

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very good points there bro yadouble,one song which shows exactly what you say about people especially from abroad  valueing sebene

cleboa of koffi 2 millions on audio alone,and i believe the clip version from the former channel had reached 7 or something like that,but its not even a song a lot of congolese people remember ever existing,from that album most congolese know grand pretre mere lovemycine,katagourouma and co