Author Topic: WHICH WAS THE PRIMUS AD GENERUQUE?  (Read 1222 times)

Manzambi94 on: June 30, 2025, 10:27

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I don't think this one of Extra Musica is the best it is just what I am listening to right now, YouYou Mobange part I'm here is really a masterclass he cleared Zapparro and Etas Unis
Another Prumus AD I love a lot is the Kiyunguzuna One probably one of the best long generique AD I have ever heard even the "Eeeh mwana Mulub'eeee, eee mwana mulub'eeee sulutani mwana mulub'e " with the add of I think Eto'o Ben Laden who goes and does "Eeeeh yo-yo melaka primus" with his accent which I think is a Muluba accent



Going back to Brazzaville I really like the completeness of the Primus Engoudouka one where you have a great melange and amalgama between singers and Atatlaku pretty much every singer present in the starting line up and the two Atalakus sang and I don't think it has ever done again of having singers and Atalaku in the same Primus AD




Then another one I love is the Werra one where you can hear Celeo singing a bit I don't know why but it is one of those underrated songs that it rarely gets mentioned maybe cause it was an ad, also cause I don't hear it at Werra concerts the way I for example listens to Kiyunguzuna guitar links and cries being played over and over again by JB




Going back to Werra this was the Primus Ad song





But I think that the best Ad song at least to me for Primus was definitely Sous Sol even tho I have never understood if it was an AD that Werra later turned into a generique or a Generique who was already in rhe making  and Primus paid Werra so he decided to advertise them only in the beginning  also because there are two videos of this song one the "normal" one with Kapaya in a ring if I am not mistaken and the dancers playing volleyball
And the other who is really a huge Primus AD with the stands and the people showing Primus beer






Wbu guys which Primus AD do you think was the best

jordanlumbala101 #1 on: June 30, 2025, 10:37

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CM PRINCE #2 on: June 30, 2025, 14:38

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Sous Sol is definitely the most famous one.

archos #3 on: June 30, 2025, 14:58

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dont understimate bongolowayi though,it was make or break for jb,but like most of his generiques though the overall quality of the sound was a let down so with such an agressive banger of a sound sous sol stayed more in the youth's memory on longterm+ but bongolowayi pretty much was like a near dead jb coming back to life

Wenge1995 #4 on: June 30, 2025, 15:36

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dont understimate bongolowayi though,it was make or break for jb,but like most of his generiques though the overall quality of the sound was a let down so with such an agressive banger of a sound sous sol stayed more in the youth's memory on longterm+ but bongolowayi pretty much was like a near dead jb coming back to life

His career was really in that bad of a spot? I thought the Kipe Ya Yo and the album after were successful, maybe I wasn't paying close attention that time

Mfumu Vata #5 on: June 30, 2025, 16:03

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dont understimate bongolowayi though,it was make or break for jb,but like most of his generiques though the overall quality of the sound was a let down so with such an agressive banger of a sound sous sol stayed more in the youth's memory on longterm+ but bongolowayi pretty much was like a near dead jb coming back to life

It surprises me how people tend to forget about Bolongowayi. Back in the day it was a huge hit and dancefloors would always be packed whenever it was played. I've seen TikToks and Facebook posts making top 10 lists of Clan Wenge's most famous génériques and I'm always surprised to see Bolongowayi often not being mentioned. But it's probably due to many who are making these posts being in their twenties, not being aware about the impact it had in society. Supporters of Jean Pierre Bemba even used Gentamicine's "Aza Mwana Congo" for it's presidential campaign of 2006
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Mfumu Vata #6 on: June 30, 2025, 16:32

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dont understimate bongolowayi though,it was make or break for jb,but like most of his generiques though the overall quality of the sound was a let down so with such an agressive banger of a sound sous sol stayed more in the youth's memory on longterm+ but bongolowayi pretty much was like a near dead jb coming back to life

His career was really in that bad of a spot? I thought the Kipe Ya Yo and the album after were successful, maybe I wasn't paying close attention that time

Yes, back at that time JB Mpiana had a 5-years ban in the Schengen Area, which made him being limited compared to his rival Werrason. It's just that JB Mpiana had loyal fans at that time otherwise he would have been finished. Like, in the era of Pelisa Ngwasuma, Bralima was about to cut his contract. At that time Werrason just signed a lucrative signed with them and released Changement de Frequence, after receiving a triumphal reception upon his return from his Europe-tour of 2005. This made Bralima demand a strong générique from them, warning that if it flopped, they would be shown the door, which led JB Mpiana to use the générique that was originally meant for Chemin de Fer, that they were recording at that time. They modified it to praise the product of their sponsor Primus and when it came out, it was a massive banger. It completely overshadowed Maison Mère’s générique. It was played everywhere. The Maison Mère camp responded with all kinds of excuses, saying things like they were saving their real banger for Témoignage, etc.

The Kipe Ya Yo générique was successful and  songs like Francis Kalombo and Guantanamo doing well. But the album didn’t have the same impact as Titanic or TH, the albums that people truly held in their hearts. The albums  Anti-Terro and Internet had a better reception. It was also a different era, the G-5 just started. At that time, people were saying that it was time for Chai, Kibens, Rio, and Bogus to leave in order to give a chance to the PPU team Djino, Gessan, Zulema, Atshuda, Nono, and Abraham. They were called mikuli's, booed in concerts and sometimes even physcially attacked. There was even a point when JB seriously considered firing them, but he  changed his mind last and made a press statement saying it was all part of a strategy to destabilize Wenge BCBG, since they were the most stable band in DR Congo. I remember many fans being dissapointed and many becoming neutral fans. At the same time, where Maison Mère's fanbase kept rejuvenate, BCBG's fanbase stagnated.

In Quel est Ton Probleme, despite holding the old guard, JB Mpiana gave the new team more chances and the EP gave also some hope, fans believing that Chemin de Fer would come soon but it didn't happen. Zadio and Liberez became huge hits but  the generique surprisingly  not having the same impact as Kipe ya Yo.
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bencuri #7 on: July 01, 2025, 03:27

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There is HD version of the old Extra Musica one:


Manzambi94 #8 on: July 01, 2025, 08:12

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dont understimate bongolowayi though,it was make or break for jb,but like most of his generiques though the overall quality of the sound was a let down so with such an agressive banger of a sound sous sol stayed more in the youth's memory on longterm+ but bongolowayi pretty much was like a near dead jb coming back to life
I wanted to put Bongolowayi actually but I think that with Kiyunguzuna I already put JB in I loved Bongolowayi and Biloko by JB especially the Bongolowayi part when Genta says "Lisimooo management masese,  Kokomo Lisimo management masese" and also I think Pelisa Ngwasuma is a very great generique it was one of the Primus generique where the cries were really top notch and one of the time where Genta had his beautiful voice with Tutu Caludji and Cellulaire also killing it with their cries "Bi Bi but eh" by Tutu Caludji and "Mwana Mama nyukula Luketo Nyeka Nyeka" and the other crie by Cellulaire who I think it had the word "bilele " in cries later who will make it into anti terro

Manzambi94 #9 on: July 01, 2025, 08:24

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dont understimate bongolowayi though,it was make or break for jb,but like most of his generiques though the overall quality of the sound was a let down so with such an agressive banger of a sound sous sol stayed more in the youth's memory on longterm+ but bongolowayi pretty much was like a near dead jb coming back to life

His career was really in that bad of a spot? I thought the Kipe Ya Yo and the album after were successful, maybe I wasn't paying close attention that time

Yes, back at that time JB Mpiana had a 5-years ban in the Schengen Area, which made him being limited compared to his rival Werrason. It's just that JB Mpiana had loyal fans at that time otherwise he would have been finished. Like, in the era of Pelisa Ngwasuma, Bralima was about to cut his contract. At that time Werrason just signed a lucrative signed with them and released Changement de Frequence, after receiving a triumphal reception upon his return from his Europe-tour of 2005. This made Bralima demand a strong générique from them, warning that if it flopped, they would be shown the door, which led JB Mpiana to use the générique that was originally meant for Chemin de Fer, that they were recording at that time. They modified it to praise the product of their sponsor Primus and when it came out, it was a massive banger. It completely overshadowed Maison Mère’s générique. It was played everywhere. The Maison Mère camp responded with all kinds of excuses, saying things like they were saving their real banger for Témoignage, etc.

The Kipe Ya Yo générique was successful and  songs like Francis Kalombo and Guantanamo doing well. But the album didn’t have the same impact as Titanic or TH, the albums that people truly held in their hearts. The albums  Anti-Terro and Internet had a better reception. It was also a different era, the G-5 just started. At that time, people were saying that it was time for Chai, Kibens, Rio, and Bogus to leave in order to give a chance to the PPU team Djino, Gessan, Zulema, Atshuda, Nono, and Abraham. They were called mikuli's, booed in concerts and sometimes even physcially attacked. There was even a point when JB seriously considered firing them, but he  changed his mind last and made a press statement saying it was all part of a strategy to destabilize Wenge BCBG, since they were the most stable band in DR Congo. I remember many fans being dissapointed and many becoming neutral fans. At the same time, where Maison Mère's fanbase kept rejuvenate, BCBG's fanbase stagnated.

In Quel est Ton Probleme, despite holding the old guard, JB Mpiana gave the new team more chances and the EP gave also some hope, fans believing that Chemin de Fer would come soon but it didn't happen. Zadio and Liberez became huge hits but  the generique surprisingly  not having the same impact as Kipe ya Yo.
Why do you think the generique didn't have the same impact of Kipe Ya Yo, I think Quel Est Ton Probleme had great cries like Kizubanata, Quel Est Ton Probleme, Na Ko Kanga Bondo, by Genta Nga Na Loba by Ben Laden, Tulumuka Mwana Tulumuka Mwana Na Binadam, but there were also some fries I think they didn't fit well for example I think the Cellulaire cri even tho he only had one was uneccessary and the Beta Songa Na Tala by Pajo I don't think it should have been use on the first main generique but for the rest almost all of Genta cries and especially the final crie by Ben Laden were really
About Liberes you know that I really.didnt know the song until I saw a concert live on a boat by JB and I have heard Liberez but I didn't know the name of the song and I have searched it and I really liked it, it was extremely strange because usually when songs are good and the album is successful people talk about the song you will know the tile since people spoke about a lot.

Manzambi94 #10 on: July 01, 2025, 08:33

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I really love the Biloko generique especially the Mutuashi homage done by the first Atalaku was he also Ben Laden?   even tho I would have loved to see Pajo and Ben Laden more since there is a lot of Genta,  I used to hate the Rota Rota crie but now I kinda like it, for Bongolowayi I like the Genta parts but I think that a lot of Cellulaire cries mmm they weren't something I really liked but it is still a great generique

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dont understimate bongolowayi though,it was make or break for jb,but like most of his generiques though the overall quality of the sound was a let down so with such an agressive banger of a sound sous sol stayed more in the youth's memory on longterm+ but bongolowayi pretty much was like a near dead jb coming back to life

His career was really in that bad of a spot? I thought the Kipe Ya Yo and the album after were successful, maybe I wasn't paying close attention that time

Yes, back at that time JB Mpiana had a 5-years ban in the Schengen Area, which made him being limited compared to his rival Werrason. It's just that JB Mpiana had loyal fans at that time otherwise he would have been finished. Like, in the era of Pelisa Ngwasuma, Bralima was about to cut his contract. At that time Werrason just signed a lucrative signed with them and released Changement de Frequence, after receiving a triumphal reception upon his return from his Europe-tour of 2005. This made Bralima demand a strong générique from them, warning that if it flopped, they would be shown the door, which led JB Mpiana to use the générique that was originally meant for Chemin de Fer, that they were recording at that time. They modified it to praise the product of their sponsor Primus and when it came out, it was a massive banger. It completely overshadowed Maison Mère’s générique. It was played everywhere. The Maison Mère camp responded with all kinds of excuses, saying things like they were saving their real banger for Témoignage, etc.

The Kipe Ya Yo générique was successful and  songs like Francis Kalombo and Guantanamo doing well. But the album didn’t have the same impact as Titanic or TH, the albums that people truly held in their hearts. The albums  Anti-Terro and Internet had a better reception. It was also a different era, the G-5 just started. At that time, people were saying that it was time for Chai, Kibens, Rio, and Bogus to leave in order to give a chance to the PPU team Djino, Gessan, Zulema, Atshuda, Nono, and Abraham. They were called mikuli's, booed in concerts and sometimes even physcially attacked. There was even a point when JB seriously considered firing them, but he  changed his mind last and made a press statement saying it was all part of a strategy to destabilize Wenge BCBG, since they were the most stable band in DR Congo. I remember many fans being dissapointed and many becoming neutral fans. At the same time, where Maison Mère's fanbase kept rejuvenate, BCBG's fanbase stagnated.

In Quel est Ton Probleme, despite holding the old guard, JB Mpiana gave the new team more chances and the EP gave also some hope, fans believing that Chemin de Fer would come soon but it didn't happen. Zadio and Liberez became huge hits but  the generique surprisingly  not having the same impact as Kipe ya Yo.
Why do you think the generique didn't have the same impact of Kipe Ya Yo, I think Quel Est Ton Probleme had great cries like Kizubanata, Quel Est Ton Probleme, Na Ko Kanga Bondo, by Genta Nga Na Loba by Ben Laden, Tulumuka Mwana Tulumuka Mwana Na Binadam, but there were also some fries I think they didn't fit well for example I think the Cellulaire cri even tho he only had one was uneccessary and the Beta Songa Na Tala by Pajo I don't think it should have been use on the first main generique but for the rest almost all of Genta cries and especially the final crie by Ben Laden were really
About Liberes you know that I really.didnt know the song until I saw a concert live on a boat by JB and I have heard Liberez but I didn't know the name of the song and I have searched it and I really liked it, it was extremely strange because usually when songs are good and the album is successful people talk about the song you will know the tile since people spoke about a lot.


When it comes to the generique of Kipe Ya Yo, the generique had a dance called 'Lopele' which had already gone viral within the community even before the official release. Bars in Kinshasa were dancing to concert-version of that dance.
The dance Lopele had a huge impact, like Kisanola, Kiwanzenza/Tchaku-Libonda, and Koyimbo-Ko. There was even a DVD called Avant Goût - Lopele, which sold like crazy back in 2006. Earlier that year, JB Mpiana performed at Dock Eiffel in Paris, his first show there since 2002 and Lopele being the main dance. At the time, people had flip phones and Ericsson mobiles, which could store short videos. Many youngsters had clips of Kaddy Show, Sandralina and others dancing Lopele or doing solo act. A lot of them even used 3 seconds loops (boomerang) of Sandralina during that on their Skyblog profiles.
When Kipe Ya Yo came on the market, the generique became a massive success even gaining popularity in countries like Benin, Ivory Coast, and Cameroon. JB Mpiana even received contracts to perform in these countries, but he didn’t go. Before Kipe ya Yo, there was Primus-generique called Bokeseni Ezali with the Lopele-dance.






So when looking back, I think that Quel est Ton Problème missed something like Kisanola or Lopele. Meanwhile, the main generique Soyons Sérieux had that impact on long-term due to the Mpunda-dance.
It’s possible to not know every hit. But when it comes to Libérez, the song used to be, along with Zadio, one of the main songs during JB Mpiana’s Kinshasa concerts between 2008 and 2010, while dancer Tantine Mbilia would do her solo acts. After that Seguin passed away, the song went viral on TikTok with the line 'Faute ekozala ya nani'?