I did not know it was kalo bass that returned to his band then after tonya tonya and he was calling him "boa"i also see ali,the new dancer of bcbg on djuna's left
He only has one album right?
Quote from: archos on August 24, 2025, 17:06I did not know it was kalo bass that returned to his band then after tonya tonya and he was calling him "boa"i also see ali,the new dancer of bcbg on djuna's leftI will never understand how this guy faded away, with such a classic album, I think he is the only atalaku to have such an impactful solo career cause even here in Zimbabwe we danced to his music, clubs, dance groups etc.
Quote from: Jeffrey Sirjeza Sibanda on August 24, 2025, 19:33Quote from: archos on August 24, 2025, 17:06I did not know it was kalo bass that returned to his band then after tonya tonya and he was calling him "boa"i also see ali,the new dancer of bcbg on djuna's leftI will never understand how this guy faded away, with such a classic album, I think he is the only atalaku to have such an impactful solo career cause even here in Zimbabwe we danced to his music, clubs, dance groups etc.He was blocked by Koffi, basically Djuna was becoming extmrely big and he got threatened to stop or else
Quote from: Yadouble on August 24, 2025, 20:12Quote from: Jeffrey Sirjeza Sibanda on August 24, 2025, 19:33Quote from: archos on August 24, 2025, 17:06I did not know it was kalo bass that returned to his band then after tonya tonya and he was calling him "boa"i also see ali,the new dancer of bcbg on djuna's leftI will never understand how this guy faded away, with such a classic album, I think he is the only atalaku to have such an impactful solo career cause even here in Zimbabwe we danced to his music, clubs, dance groups etc.He was blocked by Koffi, basically Djuna was becoming extmrely big and he got threatened to stop or elsebut why really? These so called big musicians are contributing to the decline of the genre cause this guy was going to help them keep the genre alive so that when they release people will be expecting something from Congo, right now the situation is embarrassing, seeing Congolese copy South Africans is funny and painful at the same time, they used to rule but now they are confused.The 2K generation will know them for nothing, maybe war.
Quote from: Jeffrey Sirjeza Sibanda on August 24, 2025, 22:04Quote from: Yadouble on August 24, 2025, 20:12Quote from: Jeffrey Sirjeza Sibanda on August 24, 2025, 19:33Quote from: archos on August 24, 2025, 17:06I did not know it was kalo bass that returned to his band then after tonya tonya and he was calling him "boa"i also see ali,the new dancer of bcbg on djuna's leftI will never understand how this guy faded away, with such a classic album, I think he is the only atalaku to have such an impactful solo career cause even here in Zimbabwe we danced to his music, clubs, dance groups etc.He was blocked by Koffi, basically Djuna was becoming extmrely big and he got threatened to stop or elsebut why really? These so called big musicians are contributing to the decline of the genre cause this guy was going to help them keep the genre alive so that when they release people will be expecting something from Congo, right now the situation is embarrassing, seeing Congolese copy South Africans is funny and painful at the same time, they used to rule but now they are confused.The 2K generation will know them for nothing, maybe war.You are from Zimbabwe right? How do musicians act there? Because in Congo at least kn modern times a leader doesn't Ikele to be surpassed, he will rather kill every chance of a musician being successful the to see them prosper, groups like Nouvele Horizon are where you can leave and not be sabotaged, a leader biggest fear is to be forgotten that's why Koffi stopped producing stars after he saw Fally's success, another story do you know Les Marquis Des Maison Mere
Quote from: Yadouble on August 26, 2025, 19:43Quote from: Jeffrey Sirjeza Sibanda on August 24, 2025, 22:04Quote from: Yadouble on August 24, 2025, 20:12Quote from: Jeffrey Sirjeza Sibanda on August 24, 2025, 19:33Quote from: archos on August 24, 2025, 17:06I did not know it was kalo bass that returned to his band then after tonya tonya and he was calling him "boa"i also see ali,the new dancer of bcbg on djuna's leftI will never understand how this guy faded away, with such a classic album, I think he is the only atalaku to have such an impactful solo career cause even here in Zimbabwe we danced to his music, clubs, dance groups etc.He was blocked by Koffi, basically Djuna was becoming extmrely big and he got threatened to stop or elsebut why really? These so called big musicians are contributing to the decline of the genre cause this guy was going to help them keep the genre alive so that when they release people will be expecting something from Congo, right now the situation is embarrassing, seeing Congolese copy South Africans is funny and painful at the same time, they used to rule but now they are confused.The 2K generation will know them for nothing, maybe war.You are from Zimbabwe right? How do musicians act there? Because in Congo at least kn modern times a leader doesn't Ikele to be surpassed, he will rather kill every chance of a musician being successful the to see them prosper, groups like Nouvele Horizon are where you can leave and not be sabotaged, a leader biggest fear is to be forgotten that's why Koffi stopped producing stars after he saw Fally's success, another story do you know Les Marquis Des Maison Mere Yes I know Les Marquis I liked that group.
People often point the finger at Koffi Olomidé and Werrason for destabilizing Les Marquis. But from day 1, it was already predictable that they would split. During their first official interview, Ferre Gola, Jus d’Ete Mulopwe, and Bill Clinton already gave signs that a breakup was coming with the word “me” being mentioned repeatedly.Tensions grew when Bill Clinton signed a personal contract with Bracongo (Skol) pointing journalist Zacharie Bababswe as his personal manager. This created friction, since that the contract was for him personally and not for the group. Just before signing, Bill Clinton was linked to a possible return to Maison Mère with the involvement of Werrason’s wife. However, Bill demanded a house, a permanent salary and a percentage of the Bracongo (Skol) deal with Werrason. Some people even claim that Zacharie Bababswe had been sent on a mission to break up Les Marquis. Ferre himself sang about this towards the end in the song Qui Vivra Verra: “Basala campagne baboma Marquis, bakotisa ba masta ba boule mabe po ba bebisa vie na biso. Nzambe kaka ayebi.”During the recording of their album Miracles, disagreements were more frequent and arguments often broke out. While shooting music videos, Bill Clinton even fought with Guy Boston, one of their administrators and also with Japonais. According to several people, these incidents led people close to the group, including Mère Jacquie Watunda, to suggest that they needed a president among them. A vote was held and Jus d’Ete Mulopwe received the most votes. This created dissatisfaction for Ferre and Bill, who refused to accept the outcome.Years later, a man named president PEK, who used to work with Ferre, confirmed in an interview that he did with Teddy Mola, that Jus d’Ete had been appointed president and that both Ferre and Bill refused, because they did not imagine themselfs wearing uniforms under his leadership. Meanwhile, both of them began preparing their return to Kinshasa to promote the Miracles album. But each had prepared their own “12". Bill Clinton sent his people in Ngiri-Ngiri to recruit musicians, while Ferre did the same through his own staff, instead of melting their people together.Both were supposed to return to Kinshasa together, but Ferre missed the flight (some say he did it on purpose). Despite this, both men received triumphant welcomes. The real problems began after their return: Ferre, rehearsing at Bibi Play with his musicians, expected Bill Clinton to join him since that he saw himself as the leader. At the same time, Bill Clinton expected Ferre to come to his rehearsals, since he considered himself the leader of Les Marquis. Bill, however, didn’t worry too much, since he had financial and logistical backing from donors and Bracongo. He went on TV announcing that he had recruited 36 musicians, baptizing them as les 36 Samouraïs and rebranding his band as Les Marquis Samouraïs.Ferre, on the other side, lacked financial support and started to struggle. He sought reconciliation with Bill through various intermediaries, since the original plan was to promote Miracles with concerts at Stade des Martyrs, the Grand Hotel and a tour around Kinshasa. But reconciliation never worked out. Ferre continued on his own, naming his group Les Marquis de Beaux Garçons.Meanwhile, Jus d’Ete Mulopwe crowned himself in Paris as Le Roi Marquis, but soon faced a leadership conflict with founding members Serge Mabiala, Japonais and Mimiche. They left to form Les Marquis Plus with Celezino, though their band received little support. Eventually, Mimiche Bass returned to Wenge Maison Mère. Jus d'Ete Mulopwe continued on his own with musicians like Djo Lockis, Gemerose and co and would enjoy succes with the 'EP' Eluka Makambo. As for Ferre signing with Koffi. It is said that Ferre had already signed with him around the time Miracles was released and also different articles being written about. Unfortunately, since DigitalCongo removed their archives before 2013, the article about it since a decade not available anymore. It could be that he already signed, scammed Koffi and later on still ended up by joining. When Koffi later sued Ferre, when he left in 2006, the contract was showed in one of the interviews about it, showing that it had been signed in December 2004 and valid until December 2006, while Ferre officially joining Quartier Latin in May 2005. Ferre who was in serious difficulty due to the lack of support tried to link up with Baby Ndombe. But Baby Ndombe refused still being mad how, he (Ferre), Bill and JDT didn't credit him in the idea of creating Les Marquis and also wanting to focus on his album Tour de Babel that he was preparing. Ferre Gola also tried to sign with Bralima (Primus), but failed. Vasco Mabiala claims that on the day Ferre was supposed to sign, Bralima’s directors met instead with Monib Production and Werrason’s wife (while Werrason was touring Europe with Maison Mère), and Ferre being chased away. Bill Clinton, meanwhile, capitalized on the fame of Miracles through public concerts, calling himself the leader of the 5ème Génération. Shortly after Ferre joined Quartier Latin, Bill Clinton started blaming Koffi Olomidé, accusing him of being the true cause of Les Marquis’ split. He also revealed that he was offered money to join Quartier Latin.
Quote from: Mfumu Vata on August 27, 2025, 21:59People often point the finger at Koffi Olomidé and Werrason for destabilizing Les Marquis. But from day 1, it was already predictable that they would split. During their first official interview, Ferre Gola, Jus d’Ete Mulopwe, and Bill Clinton already gave signs that a breakup was coming with the word “me” being mentioned repeatedly.Tensions grew when Bill Clinton signed a personal contract with Bracongo (Skol) pointing journalist Zacharie Bababswe as his personal manager. This created friction, since that the contract was for him personally and not for the group. Just before signing, Bill Clinton was linked to a possible return to Maison Mère with the involvement of Werrason’s wife. However, Bill demanded a house, a permanent salary and a percentage of the Bracongo (Skol) deal with Werrason. Some people even claim that Zacharie Bababswe had been sent on a mission to break up Les Marquis. Ferre himself sang about this towards the end in the song Qui Vivra Verra: “Basala campagne baboma Marquis, bakotisa ba masta ba boule mabe po ba bebisa vie na biso. Nzambe kaka ayebi.”During the recording of their album Miracles, disagreements were more frequent and arguments often broke out. While shooting music videos, Bill Clinton even fought with Guy Boston, one of their administrators and also with Japonais. According to several people, these incidents led people close to the group, including Mère Jacquie Watunda, to suggest that they needed a president among them. A vote was held and Jus d’Ete Mulopwe received the most votes. This created dissatisfaction for Ferre and Bill, who refused to accept the outcome.Years later, a man named president PEK, who used to work with Ferre, confirmed in an interview that he did with Teddy Mola, that Jus d’Ete had been appointed president and that both Ferre and Bill refused, because they did not imagine themselfs wearing uniforms under his leadership. Meanwhile, both of them began preparing their return to Kinshasa to promote the Miracles album. But each had prepared their own “12". Bill Clinton sent his people in Ngiri-Ngiri to recruit musicians, while Ferre did the same through his own staff, instead of melting their people together.Both were supposed to return to Kinshasa together, but Ferre missed the flight (some say he did it on purpose). Despite this, both men received triumphant welcomes. The real problems began after their return: Ferre, rehearsing at Bibi Play with his musicians, expected Bill Clinton to join him since that he saw himself as the leader. At the same time, Bill Clinton expected Ferre to come to his rehearsals, since he considered himself the leader of Les Marquis. Bill, however, didn’t worry too much, since he had financial and logistical backing from donors and Bracongo. He went on TV announcing that he had recruited 36 musicians, baptizing them as les 36 Samouraïs and rebranding his band as Les Marquis Samouraïs.Ferre, on the other side, lacked financial support and started to struggle. He sought reconciliation with Bill through various intermediaries, since the original plan was to promote Miracles with concerts at Stade des Martyrs, the Grand Hotel and a tour around Kinshasa. But reconciliation never worked out. Ferre continued on his own, naming his group Les Marquis de Beaux Garçons.Meanwhile, Jus d’Ete Mulopwe crowned himself in Paris as Le Roi Marquis, but soon faced a leadership conflict with founding members Serge Mabiala, Japonais and Mimiche. They left to form Les Marquis Plus with Celezino, though their band received little support. Eventually, Mimiche Bass returned to Wenge Maison Mère. Jus d'Ete Mulopwe continued on his own with musicians like Djo Lockis, Gemerose and co and would enjoy succes with the 'EP' Eluka Makambo. As for Ferre signing with Koffi. It is said that Ferre had already signed with him around the time Miracles was released and also different articles being written about. Unfortunately, since DigitalCongo removed their archives before 2013, the article about it since a decade not available anymore. It could be that he already signed, scammed Koffi and later on still ended up by joining. When Koffi later sued Ferre, when he left in 2006, the contract was showed in one of the interviews about it, showing that it had been signed in December 2004 and valid until December 2006, while Ferre officially joining Quartier Latin in May 2005. Ferre who was in serious difficulty due to the lack of support tried to link up with Baby Ndombe. But Baby Ndombe refused still being mad how, he (Ferre), Bill and JDT didn't credit him in the idea of creating Les Marquis and also wanting to focus on his album Tour de Babel that he was preparing. Ferre Gola also tried to sign with Bralima (Primus), but failed. Vasco Mabiala claims that on the day Ferre was supposed to sign, Bralima’s directors met instead with Monib Production and Werrason’s wife (while Werrason was touring Europe with Maison Mère), and Ferre being chased away. Bill Clinton, meanwhile, capitalized on the fame of Miracles through public concerts, calling himself the leader of the 5ème Génération. Shortly after Ferre joined Quartier Latin, Bill Clinton started blaming Koffi Olomidé, accusing him of being the true cause of Les Marquis’ split. He also revealed that he was offered money to join Quartier Latin.It seems like Wenge Masion Mere is the best "school" for making solo artists, because look at Fabregas, Ferre Gola, Bill Clinton, and Heritier Wata. Even those that aren't as consistent still came with power on their first album like Didier Lacoste, Jus d’Ete Mulopwe, and Celeo Scram.You don't see that with their peers from Wemba and Koffi. If JB Mpiana gave Sakoko, Fudji, Djino, and Abraham proper attention instead of making them share BCBG with the old guard, they could have had a proper platform to jump-start a solo career.