I agree with you Mfumu Vata. You are spot on. This was a great interview indeed. Elvis Kunku was a good guest for Mr. Rumba. Mr. Rumba did a great job conducting this interview. He has done great interviews before but this one is probably one of his best ones. I heard claims that there is a family connection between him and Madilu System. I see a strong ressemblence between Elvis Kunku and Madilu System. I am surprised to learn that he knew Papa Wemba in his earlier years. I am happily surprised to learn this situation didn't lead to a conflict between Papa Wemba and Pepe Kalle. I wonder if Elvis Kunku is the one who got Papa Wemba and Pepe Kalle to meet before they would sing together in the song Amena years later. I am sure Dilu Dilumona and Papy Tex were mad to find out that Pepe Kalle sung with Papa Wemba and Kester Emeneya on the song Amena for Viva La Musica. About Cocktail, it is clear from Elvis' response, it appeared that Empire Bakuba was about to split because it looked clear that Elvis, Doris, MP Cherie alongside Dilu and Papy were already becoming annoyed with Boeing 737, Lofombo and Djuna. From Elvis' response, I feel like Empire Bakuba was going to be Viva La Musica with Nouvelle Ecriture and Cour des Grands. Pepe Kalle was going to have two sides of Empire Bakuba. One would be Empire Bakuba Kadima with Dilu, Elvis, Doris, Papy with probable additions of old Viva or Quartier Latin folks like Do Akongo, Luciana and Popolipo with a possible return of Solo Sita with Djodjo Ikomo staying on that side. Another would have been Empire Bakuba Delta Force with Desouza, Biya, Laudy, Germain, Lofombo, Djuna, Boeing 737 with folks like Strelly Mikobi, John Scott Ortega, etc. Back to Papa Wemba, I wonder if there were plans of a duet album between Papa Wemba and Pepe Kalle because it apepared they hung somewhat during the periods of 1997 to 1998. I know Pepe Kalle was preparing duet albums with Madilu System and Nyboma. I wonder if Papa Wemba and Pepe Kalle had plans of a duet album.