Author Topic: DO YOU AGREE ON CHARLES TABU'S TAKE ON FUTURE OF CONGOLESE MUSIC  (Read 2005 times)

archos on: April 30, 2026, 16:33

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he says a as promoter you cant produce the same artist three times in paris the way he produced ya jossart because it will end up being boring for people and there is not enough top top quality artists now
he says the younger generation after fally and ferre drop a lot in workrate and hunger once they experience some fame while the elders koffi jb werra fally ferre  are still out there trying to retain a certain standard of performance,so these guys must work harder to prepare themselves to take the crown sooner or later

CM PRINCE #1 on: April 30, 2026, 16:55

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I honestly fear for the future of Congolese music, because after Fally and Ferre who’s ready to take the crown? Fally was 28 when he went solo and has been consistant since, Ferre had just turned 30 and has remained hungry since. Fabregas was in his mid 20s when he went solo and fell off massively whilst in his early 30s. Innoss b let’s not even get started on him.

The problem also is there’s no new groups to burst into the scene to make new stars, also the lack of street groups is a big factor. The worst thing is band members overstay in groups now this trend was started by BCBG, and now when those band members go solo they’re old or seen as finished because they overstayed in a group.

I thought the return of Europe concerts would motivate these guys but instead musicians are running away or return to kin less motivated because they’ve seen Europe. Another example look at Quartier Latin theyre now living in Europe and look at the promising guys that are in the group like JR 33, Cowboy and co they’re too comfortable in Europe do you see them returning to Kin to start they’re own band? And we all know in this day and age starting your solo career or off shoot band in Europe is a bad idea.

archos #2 on: April 30, 2026, 20:32

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The thing is that people have understood that solo career especially in kinshasa is suicidal,for one fally ferre heritier fabro you have 50 taddet abraham and co who are just no more band members with the ultimate goal of their career being just be able to come to europe again,they cant even team up to form a band because in no time one or two will get spammed with "yo obeta na orchestre ya nani oyo" and leave
look at gesac and ceden play,they could have done something with how they were coming,fast forward a year and half not both are split and more focused on being fally stans,both have completely disappeared from big regular attention like they once were
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Wenge1995 #3 on: May 01, 2026, 00:07

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If you're a new solo artist or orchestra, where in Kinshasa do you even perform? Unless you're backed by good management, you're mostly restricted to bars, restaurants, or street stages; your audience often pay no entry fee to watch you perform and you're mostly reliant on donations or a small percentage of drink sales from the establishment. That's not the stream of income that can easily finance a band's operational expenses, proper studio time, record music videos, and affect strong promotion.

There's hardly any mid-level venues, so in Kinshasa, you're either in a stadium, playing at a hotel, or at a nightclub. Cultural centers like Halle de la Gombe are difficult to book for up-and-coming talent, because of administrative cost to negotiate a concert appearance, plus known talent are given priority. You need good management to break through, which costs money, and you can barely afford to plan ahead after splitting peanuts from small venues or fan donations.

With the first year or formation, you'll see the fractures appear as the orchestra cannot afford to stick together anymore.

CM PRINCE #4 on: May 01, 2026, 02:05

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The thing is that people have understood that solo career especially in kinshasa is suicidal,for one fally ferre heritier fabro you have 50 taddet abraham and co who are just no more band members with the ultimate goal of their career being just be able to come to europe again,they cant even team up to form a band because in no time one or two will get spammed with "yo obeta na orchestre ya nani oyo" and leave
look at gesac and ceden play,they could have done something with how they were coming,fast forward a year and half not both are split and more focused on being fally stans,both have completely disappeared from big regular attention like they once were
Solo career in Kinshasa and Europe are both suicidal so it’s a lose lose. Archos please loool gesac and ceden play were already dead in the water when they did their group, they were already finished when they returned to Wazekwa it’s only after he kicked them out that it had small buzz but after a week no one cared anymore.
The only way is a new group or even an offshoot group but that would only work if it’s done like Academia or Les Marquis in Europe.

Wenge1995 #5 on: May 01, 2026, 02:37

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The thing is that people have understood that solo career especially in kinshasa is suicidal,for one fally ferre heritier fabro you have 50 taddet abraham and co who are just no more band members with the ultimate goal of their career being just be able to come to europe again,they cant even team up to form a band because in no time one or two will get spammed with "yo obeta na orchestre ya nani oyo" and leave
look at gesac and ceden play,they could have done something with how they were coming,fast forward a year and half not both are split and more focused on being fally stans,both have completely disappeared from big regular attention like they once were
Solo career in Kinshasa and Europe are both suicidal so it’s a lose lose. Archos please loool gesac and ceden play were already dead in the water when they did their group, they were already finished when they returned to Wazekwa it’s only after he kicked them out that it had small buzz but after a week no one cared anymore.
The only way is a new group or even an offshoot group but that would only work if it’s done like Academia or Les Marquis in Europe.

Even with the case of Les Marquis and Academia, those groups benefited from a system of shared glory that was common in 90s and 2000s. Remember, those members had several memorable vocals on their bosses solo album and the group albums BEFORE the split. In-between that time were popular album clips and concerts that cemented their aura, they all shared in the profits of fame even if salary disputes forced their departure. When they left, fans and donors also migrated to their rival movements — don't forget Werra scrambled to rebuild Wenge Masion Mere.

By today's standard, it's all about the leader. If you're under 5eme generation, you're lucky if you get ten seconds of intervention on a song. Look at Cousto, Billy Snythe, and others that tried to form a group in Europe after F'Victeam, they couldn't last more than 3 months. Kabuya is probably the most popular member, addictions aside, he can't even follow in the footsteps of Bill Clinton or Zaparo. The leaders of 5eme are a safer bet for donors and concert promoters looking for profit margins that are predictable and high volume, a lot of these newer acts in Congolese music are neither.


BR #6 on: May 05, 2026, 10:58

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