Author Topic: WOW I HAD NOT SEEN PETIT CANARD OF TONYA TONYA FOR OVER 20 YEARS  (Read 593 times)

archos on: July 09, 2026, 10:38

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https://www.tiktok.com/@chibidalartiste/video/7659730233842502944?lang=fr

i was seeing the name niwel tsumbu sometimes here and there i had  no clue it was petit canard
here he is playing with chibida what seems the original version of son coeur of album mouna

Mfumu Vata #1 on: July 09, 2026, 23:09

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For years I was seeing videos of Niwel Tshumbu on youtube and tiktok but I didn't knew that it was actually Petit Canard. I see him often perform with white people. Looks like he was already interessted in that kind of music when hearing how the song Irene Mokabila started and the start of different tracks from Mouna who have that cowboy music/spanish guitar in the beginning (l'Homme Unique, Son Coeur, etc.).

Adolphe Dominguez had gold in his hands with his team and had everything to succeed. It's crazy how he messed up

CM PRINCE #2 on: July 09, 2026, 23:15

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For years I was seeing videos of Niwel Tshumbu on youtube and tiktok but I didn't knew that it was actually Petit Canard. I see him often perform with white people. Looks like he was already interessted in that kind of music when hearing how the song Irene Mokabila started and the start of different tracks from Mouna who have that cowboy music/spanish guitar in the beginning (l'Homme Unique, Son Coeur, etc.).

Adolphe Dominguez had gold in his hands with his team and had everything to succeed. It's crazy how he messed up
I agree Adolphe should be arrested for letting that team slip tbh through his fingers it’s actually a crime.

archos #3 on: July 10, 2026, 01:49

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The bad thing with tata he was surrounded with guys who endured the leadership war with werra and its consequences,mabanga removed,name droped from ngulu list despite paying and so on so when they became the staff around tata in tonya tonya their group it was like revenge
notice for example that for most of the two albums jitrois is there for clips but it was washington or ilus matshuda for example doing his parts until the clips in europe generique and cardozo where he fully figured then made it to a couple of clips back home because he was not a favorite of the guys(hence probably why he shifted to maison mere so easily)

Wenge1995 #4 on: July 10, 2026, 17:20

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The bad thing with tata he was surrounded with guys who endured the leadership war with werra and its consequences,mabanga removed,name droped from ngulu list despite paying and so on so when they became the staff around tata in tonya tonya their group it was like revenge
notice for example that for most of the two albums jitrois is there for clips but it was washington or ilus matshuda for example doing his parts until the clips in europe generique and cardozo where he fully figured then made it to a couple of clips back home because he was not a favorite of the guys(hence probably why he shifted to maison mere so easily)

I always wondered about that. If you recall, JDT had two memorable vocals on Solola Bien and was a popular member during their 1999 tour, but he only appeared in one clip for Solola Bien. Michael Chamberton had several vocals on Effrakata, but didn't appear in the clips. I don't even think Apocalypse appeared in any clips for Monde Arabe or Danger de Mort, you'd think group leaders would expect them to show up during video shoots for continuity. Wouldn't staff get in trouble for their absence?

CM PRINCE #5 on: July 10, 2026, 22:20

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The bad thing with tata he was surrounded with guys who endured the leadership war with werra and its consequences,mabanga removed,name droped from ngulu list despite paying and so on so when they became the staff around tata in tonya tonya their group it was like revenge
notice for example that for most of the two albums jitrois is there for clips but it was washington or ilus matshuda for example doing his parts until the clips in europe generique and cardozo where he fully figured then made it to a couple of clips back home because he was not a favorite of the guys(hence probably why he shifted to maison mere so easily)


I always wondered about that. If you recall, JDT had two memorable vocals on Solola Bien and was a popular member during their 1999 tour, but he only appeared in one clip for Solola Bien. Michael Chamberton had several vocals on Effrakata, but didn't appear in the clips. I don't even think Apocalypse appeared in any clips for Monde Arabe or Danger de Mort, you'd think group leaders would expect them to show up during video shoots for continuity. Wouldn't staff get in trouble for their absence?
JDT was in a car accident so that’s why he wasn’t present in most of the solola bien clips. Leaders themselves choose who appears in clips so if musicians aren’t present it’s either because they left or the band leader didn’t pick them to appear

CM PRINCE #6 on: July 10, 2026, 22:40

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The bad thing with tata he was surrounded with guys who endured the leadership war with werra and its consequences,mabanga removed,name droped from ngulu list despite paying and so on so when they became the staff around tata in tonya tonya their group it was like revenge
notice for example that for most of the two albums jitrois is there for clips but it was washington or ilus matshuda for example doing his parts until the clips in europe generique and cardozo where he fully figured then made it to a couple of clips back home because he was not a favorite of the guys(hence probably why he shifted to maison mere so easily)
One thing about Adolphe is he has a good eye on spotting talent his IQ when it comes to recruiting musicians is on point. Him and Werra are the best in Clan Wenge when it comes to recruiting musicians they’re definitely better than Jb and Blaise lol. The problem with Adolphe he doesn’t know how to keep a team, they call Tonya Tonya a nursery lol because if you look at nearly all groups in Congo they have at least one or two ex Tonya Tonya musicians.   

archos #7 on: July 10, 2026, 23:16

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Yeah because after the first generation he kinda tried in 2004 again but by 2007 taddet,hadji solo,late diego and co gone
when his family decided to settle in south africa music was not top 1 or top 2 priority anymore so by the time he'd assemble teams again like nselele cedric ya mado and co other groups more serious about music would easily poach them
during the wenge reunion late mbuta and my big bro collected infos suggesting that there had been 475 official clan wenge members since 81 and musicians who passed by tonya tonya even for a week had by very very far the biggest percentage(ah mbuta an absolute freak of secretary,the guy knew minimum the month and year that everybody joined)
his original staff also either passed away or grew to too big responsabilities and have never been replaced to try to keep the group alive even when tata is not focused,taddet poaching for example was as simple as heritier coming off his first attempt to get baby ndombe back and seeing taddet at an interview with tonya tonya and telling him you are coming to maison mere,not even are you interested or something

archos #8 on: July 10, 2026, 23:21

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The bad thing with tata he was surrounded with guys who endured the leadership war with werra and its consequences,mabanga removed,name droped from ngulu list despite paying and so on so when they became the staff around tata in tonya tonya their group it was like revenge
notice for example that for most of the two albums jitrois is there for clips but it was washington or ilus matshuda for example doing his parts until the clips in europe generique and cardozo where he fully figured then made it to a couple of clips back home because he was not a favorite of the guys(hence probably why he shifted to maison mere so easily)


I always wondered about that. If you recall, JDT had two memorable vocals on Solola Bien and was a popular member during their 1999 tour, but he only appeared in one clip for Solola Bien. Michael Chamberton had several vocals on Effrakata, but didn't appear in the clips. I don't even think Apocalypse appeared in any clips for Monde Arabe or Danger de Mort, you'd think group leaders would expect them to show up during video shoots for continuity. Wouldn't staff get in trouble for their absence?
JDT was in a car accident so that’s why he wasn’t present in most of the solola bien clips. Leaders themselves choose who appears in clips so if musicians aren’t present it’s either because they left or the band leader didn’t pick them to appear



the staffs also decide,lobeso always brings that anecdote about how he was axed from temps present clips until heritier decided to counter that decision by sending his guy to literally jump into his house like thieves and drag him from bed and participate with the guys who took him out of the list looking dejected but no choice since it was golden child heritier who decided,then sometimes musicians also with their internal conflicts can decide not to pass you the info as most secretaries are lazy and just tell 4 5 guys inform the rest
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archos #9 on: July 26, 2026, 23:54

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YOOOO he's been in europe the same amount of time as most who stay in france england and co and you'd believe he is a born english speaker,nobody comes any close even with the attitude and all that,probably the fact he kept a very active overseas career in festivals and co helped compared to most of the guys who stay into congolo congolese circle