Author Topic: PATIENT KUSANGILA parle de véritable chef de wenge chez ADDY LOBA .  (Read 13438 times)

50 on: December 18, 2013, 11:59

  • Guest
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 11:59 by 50 »

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #1 on: December 18, 2013, 13:29

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6969
  • Karma: +9/-3
    • View Profile
Mvulusi
Please ensure that you translate the title of the news items and videos you post to English and try to make a summary of the whole story in English.

Thanx
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 13:29 by 4 »
LE BIG BOSS

archos #2 on: December 18, 2013, 13:55

  • Mighty Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23433
  • Karma: +62/-26
    • View Profile
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 13:55 by 25 »

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #3 on: December 18, 2013, 14:16

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6969
  • Karma: +9/-3
    • View Profile
@archos said:
dont worry,i will do it today for him
Thanx archos but let me clarify by saying the titles should be translated too and just a few lines to say what the video is all about so people can understand,i think this was the complaint we had last time. It is easy to translate the French title into English,as for lingala we can all chip in and translate the stories,what is important is the titles of the threads,we must try to translate them to English by all means.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 14:16 by 4 »
LE BIG BOSS

archos #4 on: December 18, 2013, 17:00

  • Mighty Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23433
  • Karma: +62/-26
    • View Profile
kusangila reveals he arrived in wenge in early 1990s when alain makaba had gone back to europe,he arrived as a bassist but there was already three bassists in the group so as he is able to play rhythm aswell he took that role
for him,the real boss of wenge was alain makaba,who arranged songs,picked who will sing here and there,gave singers and instrumentists direction about how they had to perform
he was the artistic director of the group,werra financial director,jb president and masela founder of the group
-werra was against jb's project of feux de l'amour and it created tension,tension which became worse with the huge success of album
-werra was the financial director,but was not paying  musicians,administrators were sharing money between themselves until one day,it was makaba who got money from the tour producer,and paid musicians well,which made werra very angry(not the fact of paying musicians,but the fact of him not receiving the money as usual)
-from the 4 administrators,werra was the one who suspended musicians whereas jn was more like a charismatic figure,a big brother(hence probably the nickname' father" masela gave him")
-one of the  events which created more trouble is the fact papa wemba touched jb and said " there is only one president"
from then it worsened,and when the group wenge musica performed in abidjan,werra and jb had separate contracts,jb picked who he wanted except of course werra,and werra aswell picked his team,both made sure they did not perform together
the money makaba got from kenya caused a big war of words between werra and makaba/jb who werra openly called traitors for receiving the money instead of him anf according to him trying to convince group members to be on their side by giving them the biggest amount of money they ever had
werrason was so angry that he rushed towards jb and threatened to beat him,unless the intervention of some of their common friends something bad could have happened
one day after that incident at grand hotel,they started rehearsing at blaise bula's house with support of producer simon who quickly got them visas for europe
kusangila says he followed jb and makaba because he knew he could got to see jb and get money when he needed something whereas werra was not giving money despite his role of financial director


will complete later
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 17:00 by 25 »

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #5 on: December 18, 2013, 17:08

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6969
  • Karma: +9/-3
    • View Profile
Thanx archos,once again Fr. Kusangila has told the same story he told and we know and almost all clan Wenge musicians say the same,the break up was all really about someone misusing funds and not paying staff. :lol:
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 17:08 by 4 »
LE BIG BOSS

archos #6 on: December 18, 2013, 17:23

  • Mighty Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 23433
  • Karma: +62/-26
    • View Profile
lol i imagine the almost fight scene,and imagine what they could have said and laugh like mad when thinking about it :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 17:23 by 25 »

SLY PAPA NA KEVIN #7 on: December 18, 2013, 17:43

  • Administrator
  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 6969
  • Karma: +9/-3
    • View Profile
@archos said:
lol i imagine the almost fight scene,and imagine what they could have said and laugh like mad when thinking about it :mrgreen:  :mrgreen:
kiekiekiekie,wondering who would have won the fight.  :lol:
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 17:43 by 4 »
LE BIG BOSS

50 #8 on: December 18, 2013, 17:56

  • Guest
Was that statement of Didier Masela at RTNC before or after the fight?  Who did came that day at Samba Playa? And what was the reason that Christian Mabanga & Ali Mbonda didn't stay at BCBG? So that story of Sanakara about sabotatings BGBG's rehearsel was false?
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 17:56 by 50 »

NEWSIDE96 #9 on: December 18, 2013, 19:39

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1054
  • Karma: +2/-1
    • View Profile
<cite>@mvulusi96 said:</cite>
Was that statement of Didier Masela at RTNC before or after the fight?  Who did came that day at Samba Playa? And what was the reason that Christian Mabanga & Ali Mbonda didn't stay at BCBG? So that story of Sanakara about sabotatings BGBG's rehearsel was false?


Sankara stories are lies as usual he exaggerates Maison Mere's first couple of concerts were a big let down as no one from wenge followed them for instances in Ghk no one was there from wenge and samba playa. reasons christian mwepu left i think he had couple disagreements with some lads from bcbg ali mbonda left as seguin was picked ahead of him notice papy mbonda was thefirst percussionist of wenge musica maison mere. Maison mere kicked off when adolphe's fan club intervened in maison mere at the time adolphe was the first president not werra until later
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 19:40 by 87 »

NEWSIDE96 #10 on: December 18, 2013, 19:50

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1054
  • Karma: +2/-1
    • View Profile
guys did you hear the name kibuisa mpimpa is that how that name originated if wenge dies than the kibuisa mpimpa will happen loooooooooool
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 19:50 by 87 »

NEWSIDE96 #11 on: December 18, 2013, 20:03

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1054
  • Karma: +2/-1
    • View Profile
i agree werrason is one of the greatest recruiters of not the recruiter when it comes to that bit he is very good
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 20:03 by 87 »

50 #12 on: December 18, 2013, 20:23

  • Guest
Yeah that fan-club helped them a lot a the begining of Maison Mere. I foubd it strange that Sankara did chose the side of Werrason while he was a 'pure petit' of Aldophe Dominguez. Did Kusangila stay in Europe at their first tour for Nana Sukali? Because their were rumours that he felt in love with her. I never understand why he don't explain in his interviews why he left BCBG, after that Zenith-concert.
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 20:23 by 50 »

NEWSIDE96 #13 on: December 18, 2013, 20:32

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 1054
  • Karma: +2/-1
    • View Profile
Kusangila after titanic stayed in Europe maybe he was in love with sukali but I think he left BCBG because he didn't like it he knew jb was in full control of the band so things won't work and he mostly agreed with makaba because he never liked the way BCBG was changing with many musicians and all that
« Last Edit: December 18, 2013, 20:32 by 87 »

JV “Lone Ranger” #14 on: December 19, 2013, 01:58

  • Hero Member
  • *****
  • Posts: 4943
  • Karma: +14/-7
    • View Profile
So far Kusangila and Burkina Faso Mboka Liya stories of Wenge splitting up are the same....Werra wasnt paying them and that played a big part when the split happened they all went with JB and Makaba.
« Last Edit: December 19, 2013, 01:58 by 35 »